Parano1d ① Proof-native Layer 1 ordered by PoW

[chn520]

end，sleeping

[Ima_o_lambao]

hit a total of 0 blocks so far with a ryzen 9 5950x

[Arttemkaaa]

hit a total of 0 blocks so far with a ryzen 9 5950x

10 CPU 7950x got  2 block

[IgnotusNemo]

Could somebody write a private GPU miner? For nonce search, yes.

But nonce search is only the second phase of Parano1d mining. First, the node must build a new HistoryStep proof for every parent. The current prover is CPU-only and optimized for binary-field arithmetic through AVX2/AVX-512 VPCLMUL on x86 and PMULL on ARM. There is no CUDA or OpenCL prover. A GPU nonce kernel cannot build this proof. It must wait for the CPU, and if another block arrives first, the prepared work becomes obsolete.

A GPU may still gain something during nonce search because it can run many independent attempts. How much is unknown. Poseidon2b over GF(2^128) is not SHA-256. Modern CPUs have native carryless multiplication instructions for this arithmetic, while GPUs would need to emulate it. Their parallelism may compensate for that, but only a real implementation and benchmark can answer the question.

The 240 MH/s shown by the GUI is not hardware telemetry and does not detect GPUs. It is an estimate calculated from difficulty and observed block time. Payout addresses also tell us nothing about hardware. One address may represent one CPU, a 200-core server or several machines.

[GofyGofy]

Could somebody write a private GPU miner? For nonce search, yes.

But nonce search is only the second phase of Parano1d mining. First, the node must build a new HistoryStep proof for every parent. The current prover is CPU-only and optimized for binary-field arithmetic through AVX2/AVX-512 VPCLMUL on x86 and PMULL on ARM. There is no CUDA or OpenCL prover. A GPU nonce kernel cannot build this proof. It must wait for the CPU, and if another block arrives first, the prepared work becomes obsolete.

A GPU may still gain something during nonce search because it can run many independent attempts. How much is unknown. Poseidon2b over GF(2^128) is not SHA-256. Modern CPUs have native carryless multiplication instructions for this arithmetic, while GPUs would need to emulate it. Their parallelism may compensate for that, but only a real implementation and benchmark can answer the question.

The 240 MH/s shown by the GUI is not hardware telemetry and does not detect GPUs. It is an estimate calculated from difficulty and observed block time. Payout addresses also tell us nothing about hardware. One address may represent one CPU, a 200-core server or several machines.

Do you hear yourself? before at fail start chain was at max 10 MH with all those people now it is 300 MH I saw even 400+ at some blocks so before was ok now looks pure GPU

[Tongpu]

Wonder what you guys will say when the network starts hitting the GH/s range. ASICs?

[Ima_o_lambao]

0 blocks for 2 hrs, with a ryzen 9 5950x, turning off now

[Arttemkaaa]

I think a new start and reset is needed.

[Seikar]

Now, approaching 4 hours since launch, the current rich list is probably the below.  (Caveat: I used a script to get a list formatted so.  If my script errors, the below would have reduced accuracy).

1  o1y4jgqw0vwhxh6409xaqa40s2ngyhm3h78z2phvz58ctgkv50xjrsre9c9s | 18360.15182 NOID | 58.96% | 408 utxos
2  o1r0v66vwx88jdvp8vrnqwdlthsgpgc4vdmxt7c2y25uwtxtak2kns9jnteg | 3451.780532 NOID | 11.08% | 13 utxos
3  o1tus5dgna07ncyfmxzy0l04xw3nrajkcsu9x8xju4rzdjxcueu3ksw7200h | 2385 NOID | 7.66% | 53 utxos
4  o1xwd45sz97gnq3gmtd2pmm4024ll2hzzutcgse9p6ze87sd4h3hnqkpzsd9 | 2007.29925 NOID | 6.45% | 9 utxos
5  o1tfr3tjerg0k50080z26xzej99syulppzcz236w7x6p5zur2pjtjqnfmne3 | 865.862431 NOID | 2.78% | 10 utxos
6  o18fddlr2zuntxssqad23kr96a8aw0vljj93tles2g6543l2jnsnkqtel2nn | 495 NOID | 1.59% | 11 utxos
7  o1c8ur982fggryluamvg0748gdj7aa07qqf2e8rrrswm5lce6x9txq3740s8 | 449.916 NOID | 1.44% | 11 utxos
8  o13cprf6pny6q726xknez284gt857hwtr65xaj0e3fxkzgtw6vxxhsqq3nr7 | 391.441175 NOID | 1.26% | 25 utxos
9  o189d72tcej2y5f8rr9mhhu2pjvlg2mjuaa34q5sceexsrpp8ghm3st7s8wa | 303.415422 NOID | 0.97% | 10 utxos
10  o1h80k2rhx0etpq3pzcsczhrq503ye6dt309wyt376s2gtwslevuls4xnpyf | 270.02315 NOID | 0.87% | 6 utxos
11  o17zpmm04x8q8mqwd64r32lxx0px50xz8nn0f8k7wyllrl8eskjqmq4klrh7 | 225.0065 NOID | 0.72% | 5 utxos
12  o1a5qkxsff756pc0vzml0uqrmt2mhtxrjmx5624xmpff7lvrjkfgrsgm0keh | 135.0065 NOID | 0.43% | 3 utxos
13  o1fj83dk7vqtq5vustge2xfnuc6ekfajjspr4a6tdvsdsj8ua44hfq5xar2m | 135 NOID | 0.43% | 3 utxos
14  o1k2anw4p2m7um5n6aqj20wvzur9lu7v3fz707lvh9cxhfnuzej3psrzr95f | 90.01422 NOID | 0.29% | 2 utxos
15  o1xgytpgysc7z9yse0h6m0zw5qrtzggpgz9nv3lkm4jts9gwfwfqwswu7z63 | 90.0065 NOID | 0.29% | 2 utxos
16  o105qs6n3tzywq7krprz4ml42z7ud3s0x8lwx3gggeh2tmquyu4l6stzjxhc | 90 NOID | 0.29% | 2 utxos
17  o10j9j7pk7r4d32fj4h2g3j0xczlclvv7hxxzr7upupk67uf2ru9fqpqsxu6 | 90 NOID | 0.29% | 2 utxos
18  o17g08l6z3mznqdum2ndf9q7529chjsl773d28lv5yldynpj69g57qfdneat | 90 NOID | 0.29% | 2 utxos
19  o1e4qez0s83a34u09je2auwauvtnyp2lcgjrfq256ak8ewdyvs57rs5n4fm9 | 90 NOID | 0.29% | 2 utxos
20  o1p09rawd6m7awzj5z8355rqtyenphktl4v5y258k79l5mau09rwescafq0u | 90 NOID | 0.29% | 2 utxos
21  o1wll9ch2n0twwmj2c3j6z640qthxgjla2x68jnk3crvhwqw88e3nspnuvet | 90 NOID | 0.29% | 2 utxos
22  o1z7wp2gt942ppaq57xkek8xz0ycyryvxnltw9355cxy0cm8txy9sqt7tewa | 90 NOID | 0.29% | 2 utxos
23  o1d0vp8yt7wv87rk0qcwua2yent4uzvcqd7eqn947z53rjt2ll208sv5mrsm | 67.991 NOID | 0.22% | 2 utxos
24  o1ewv88pp6d5t69zexj5k0az7x9eqf02vnwkc8nylkwm5q7d5240usq4apdq | 67 NOID | 0.22% | 2 utxos
25  o1vhlu94kn7k0z7vha82t9et0k7qp9prpgca0tnw0smud3aekmjn8q0gw0jh | 45.0081 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
26  o17h2pgpuk5d7ec6ndmhk7dtd87ywctq7pzl8ccg0wdkd70veylmtqaae87g | 45.0065 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
27  o12a7z3d0xchfz97pxapjr9gre6xgwup8s6qkx8krdt4d83m9k425s8nmx42 | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
28  o14g629pkwqr6aemurmdym3kps600m7f3cx25lcpzz5eqgv7jzjg3sddwg8l | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
29  o1707qzej3zl3anl3gtgx7dn8uhmsd6eeyhw5s73ehynk4pdasv84sd9g44t | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
30  o17am0dqhwasg3asnx9qkq34cg326t800nh8ftnlsqxyfzwjzsykpsaafysu | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
31  o17qwej4y927nngzynqnsnu32e9ef4627u200m6e9kj6xxylm0vylsexvg00 | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
32  o19yjrv0ehrluj8ax3daa07sp3c0xrhsveula4qpthl84c4ue92k3qspkuw8 | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
33  o1ez6czddc2x4qzpzgq44xtm8467k566m66x7qtg82yr2ce6lnz7ws0t36sp | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
34  o1kyt62get0vrgd20qsm6u6tfvn0q2ncy6a35h7n4f9qa82gf2gyfs3lggkk | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
35  o1p65w56k407fkph05u775w6u0t43v8v633wxqutf39eefnvdn838qegv9g3 | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
36  o1r2uvld2tpk6p5em4yr3qyplkd3undc4t8985w5r59nzt2dmgucvs0zhd44 | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
37  o1sn8eswh3x4ls8taf4d66g5jg7368dtjqdhxrq782udfx3dyfrhhqv09gc7 | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
38  o1wnpu77v46rk58zl8nf5ja39thp0fc28zcmjv5q0c3j2sr8dug67q9k3cnj | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
39  o1xqz3tpyy0ypn8z6fz66fyrme85mfxqxyg5uewezwp93jyrh8vdlqpptwqn | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
40  o1yn8rdmc9ux9ncw0dt4ere9v7gh8s4nzkjhdvqmkxve7a4uzfxhlq5amdxf | 45 NOID | 0.14% | 1 utxo
41  o136ptktd9meuhes57xtmd54dw2gpc38vdg20fsd49pfguvj6uj99q4m0302 | 0.0105 NOID | 0.00% | 1 utxo
42  o1vz8x436mw0sezzqpnr8wekltg726gjdsr8krr0qs0sjly529dypsaujsu4 | 0.009 NOID | 0.00% | 1 utxo
43  o1gp3h8m3x4sgwww0afn4g4gdfpjr7unf70t22rjfeflhcjr585sfstzesk7 | 0.001 NOID | 0.00% | 1 utxo
44  o1p40dqug07x57a6xdsap5enlugtfj8nvtzfe5uxzu4km96sfd6sfq2hllrj | 0.0004 NOID | 0.00% | 1 utxo

The top miner is curious.  I wonder if it is a server farm with tens of processors mining to a shared payout address.

Still, despite heavy competition, my mining is getting some coins over the hours.

[Tongpu]

Mining pool (not mine)
https://pool.ariabrain.com/noid.html

[IgnotusNemo]

Ive been watching the network since launch. It has now crossed 1 GH/s on the short window. Over the last 100 blocks it averaged around 0.79 GH/s, with a 21.2 second average block time and a 19 second median. The target is 20 seconds, so difficulty is tracking the load well.

At this level of competition, several blocks are often produced at the same height. The deepest reorg happened near launch at height 56 and was three blocks. There were a few depth 2 reorgs after that. During the last hour they were all depth 1. Every node I checked converged on the same block hash and State root.

P2P also looks healthy. The nodes I checked have between 26 and 93 peers. Queues are small, there is no starvation, and nodes that briefly miss a tip recover through exact suffix sync. Even slower machines may fall one block behind for a moment, but they catch up automatically.

No consensus, database or proof verification failures so far. Scaling looks really good. Now I can finally congratulate all Parano1ds on a successful launch!


UPDATE

The network briefly touched almost 3 GH/s today. Across the last 100 blocks, actual accumulated work averaged 1.36 GH/s. More hashrate means more blocks competing at the same height. That is happening, but every reorg during the last 45 minutes was only one block deep. P2P queues never exceeded five objects, all nodes kept converging and even the slowest 4 CPU node stayed synced. Block distribution has also become much more balanced. The top four payout addresses found 30, 28, 17 and 16 of the last 100 blocks, with no address holding a majority.

The network has barely noticed the load.

[alt_x]

Tested results on a 32 core VPS and through the pool show around 1.558 NOID per hour.
That means roughly 1121 NOID per month, while the VPS costs 200e per month.

For mining to break even, NOID would therefore need to reach around 0.1783e per coin.
That is quite a high requirement for a newly launched coin, especially before we know where and if it will be traded.

Has anyone else calculated their mining cost?