Lock the League discussion thread and start new league discussion every season.

[Die_empty]

You have a fine point actually. Personally I don't fancy making replies in mega threads and it's because most often seem like repetitive discussions sometimes people even vear off the topic. Well there are a couple good sides to it like less congested topics and more summarised ones.

Anyways personally if I had to suggest I'll say it would be ok if a new topic is used every season and after the end of the season the moderator can proceed to merge them with older ones just for the sake of proper moderation and organisation.

There are always new updates in these mega threads. The problem is that people keep responding to old news on the thread instead of following up on updates.

I can't figure out how merging old and new threads works. Will the new thread still have the posts of the old one? Maybe it would be better to lock the old thread and open new ones. The old thread will naturally go down the pages.

[WhoYouCantKill]

I don't think that there's anything wrong with the old thread because it's a continuation of the league even though, it's a new season. Creating new thread every season will lead to a lot of spam on creating it and that will give the mod a lot of work to do by deleting similar thread because of too much duplication in the threads.

Technically there’s nothing wrong with them, but some people around here don’t like the idea of constantly posting in mega threads such as these league discussion threads, they have hundreds and thousands of pages, making it difficult for some people to keep up with the discussions, but if it has way fewer pages, then it’ll be a lot more easier to keep up with the discussions, and people can actually read the posts in those threads.

[DabsPoorVersion]

I don't think that there's anything wrong with the old thread because it's a continuation of the league even though, it's a new season. Creating new thread every season will lead to a lot of spam on creating it and that will give the mod a lot of work to do by deleting similar thread because of too much duplication in the threads.

Technically there’s nothing wrong with them, but some people around here don’t like the idea of constantly posting in mega threads such as these league discussion threads, they have hundreds and thousands of pages, making it difficult for some people to keep up with the discussions, but if it has way fewer pages, then it’ll be a lot more easier to keep up with the discussions, and people can actually read the posts in those threads.

It's not that hard to keep up with the discussion if you will put more time to read. Besides, you don't need to read from the very first page of the mega thread, you just have to go to the page where the discussion of the new season starts if you want to be updated. Mega threads consists of many pages, and anyone can understand if you find it a hassle to read many pages to be updated. But it's just a small effort for your own benefit. It also helps to keep the forum clean and avoid multiple duplicate threads.

[Ashawowo(OS)]

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You have a fine point actually. Personally I don't fancy making replies in mega threads and it's because most often seem like repetitive discussions sometimes people even vear off the topic. Well there are a couple good sides to it like less congested topics and more summarised ones.

Well, if you're a solid football fan, you'll want to visit those threads to know what others think about team and players performance during and after a match and to drop your own thoughts. Personally, I love reading those threads, some people actually make sense there, and for the off-topic replies, I think we don't do our best to report them, if we did, then the complaint should've been that mods don't attend to the reports when they're made.

I don't think it's good to be locked, it's fine the way it is. We only need to report most off-topic replies there to restore sanity to those mega threads.

[WhoYouCantKill]

It's not that hard to keep up with the discussion if you will put more time to read. Besides, you don't need to read from the very first page of the mega thread, you just have to go to the page where the discussion of the new season starts if you want to be updated. Mega threads consists of many pages, and anyone can understand if you find it a hassle to read many pages to be updated. But it's just a small effort for your own benefit. It also helps to keep the forum clean and avoid multiple duplicate threads.

Maybe it’s easier for you, but do you really believe it’s also like that for every other person? That it’ll also be easy for them to navigate through the mega threads to keep up with the gist? It’s just like piling up thousands of files and documents when you could have just simply sorted them in a more understandable format where people can easily just find the exact file they’re looking for without necessarily having to waste precious time flipping through several other files just to locate the one they want.

[Agbe]

This would have been the best. Mostly those threads that have entered 1,000 plus pages because those threads create repeated posts or comments and create generic posts but discussion about this issue had came up, I have created a thread on this matter but it seems moderate like the way those threads are so we have to let it be and continue with the old ways. It would have been better but who will lock them? If new threads are created, discussing on mega threads will be reduced.

[Questat]

All league discussion thread should be locked immediately a season ends and a new thread should be started.

I don't agree with this. What is the purpose of locking a thread, just so it won't become a mega thread? If that's the only reason then I think that's wrong because a mega thread is not really a problem if it's still full of meaningful discussion and not just repetitive answers.

In leagues there are always updates even during the offseason, just like in the NBA, so we can continue discussing them in one thread. I don't think the size of the thread is what matters here, it's the content. Mega threads that are meant for continuous updates should probably be exempted.

[Agbamoni]

An exception should be made for the famous league thread, football speculation, Premier League, La Liga, precisely.

I have had arguments and discussions on those threads, which I know someday I'll make reference to when having an entirely different argument or banter with the same member or perhaps another member. Starting a new league thread is like starting a discussion over again.

If you are not ok with it, fine, start a new one.

[Achalugo BTC]

I think the reason why OP and some persons might want new topic to be created while the old one is being locked after a season has passed is probably because the old thread grow into a mega thread and some persons don't like going to mega thread, like myself, I hard write on league discussion mega thread, I know I did that before but stopped at some point. So, even if old leagues discussions thread is locked after a new season and new one is created, I don't think it's bad but where it would be bad is if everyone starts creating the same topic individually.

Exactly, not everyone post on mega thread as you highlighted, some people might think their opinion won't be counted which they may find it difficult to follow up, they think they are repeating what was already said. So, the point there is that the mods should balance this by locking the old thread and opening a new one, as it makes discussion clearer, cleaner, and enjoyable. This way can prevent threads from becoming too large.

[Mia Chloe]

Personally, I love reading those threads, some people actually make sense there, and for the off-topic replies, I think we don't do our best to report them, if we did, then the complaint should've been that mods don't attend to the reports when they're made. I don't think it's good to be locked, it's fine the way it is. We only need to report most off-topic replies there to restore sanity to those mega threads.

Reporting in a mega thread isn't really gonna do a ton of good... When you  have a mega thread the easiest and I guess efficient way to prevent spam is to do a simple damage control which is basically locking it and starting a fresh one. You would not expect a moderator to read over a thousand posts and hand pick the low quality ones..

In contrast they could choose to ignore and leave it be.... The kind of discussions we have in sports can be average or below average so to a little extent it's naive to expect quality.

[Doan9269]

Maybe the best to be done in this regard is to all work together in support of what the forum required of us, knowing that the moderators cannot do this alone because not all post they can see or pick out to know the ones that are of less quality, but we can do our own best buy reporting such to the moderator once we discover any low quality post on the section, the idea of creating another thread each season could lead to having multiple threads that will talk about the same subject matter than having it on a single one, the issue is not actually about the mega thread, but the quality in what people are posting on these threads.

[KTChampions]

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Discussion league thread like the premier League and la Liga thread should be locked and a new one should be created. I believe doing so will help reduce spam and keep the gambling board clean a little bit.

All league discussion thread should be locked immediately a season ends and a new thread should be started.

Apart from your belief, are there any rational arguments? If you see spam, you can report it in megathreads or in short-page threads, it makes no difference. Would it be easier for you if the thread had 100 pages instead of 800? I don't think anyone reads deeper than 10 pages of each thread (unless they are an active participant).
The only improvement I call for (and mostly forget to implement myself lol) is to create self-moderated topics to remove spam without the help of moderators.

[YOSHIE]

All league discussion thread should be locked immediately a season ends and a new thread should be started.

As far as I know, at this time no official rules have been issued on Bitcointalk, requiring and requiring some sports league discussion threads to be locked, If I'm not mistaken, I've seen many users on this forum having discussions/debates about League threads that have been running for quite a long time being closed or remade at the end of each season, Of course the goal is to address and reduce spam posts, but in fact regarding threads for now we see the main sports thread discussions remain active and open, not a few community members have suggested locking for seasonal threads.

But it all depends on the moderation or usage policy itself, in my view while the sports league thread is discussing/discussing users it continues to run normally according to community without any violations of existing rules, maybe it can still be allowed to continue, but the policy remains the main match to lock the main thread of the league.

[SatoPrincess]

An exception should be made for the famous league thread, football speculation, Premier League, La Liga, precisely.

I have had arguments and discussions on those threads, which I know someday I'll make reference to when having an entirely different argument or banter with the same member or perhaps another member. Starting a new league thread is like starting a discussion over again.

If you are not ok with it, fine, start a new one.

That would be creating another problem, not a solution. A season in the premier league can have more than 300 pages. If the OP and mods do not lock the threads then it’s best to continue the discussion on the existing threads. I see that most OPs just update the thread to reflect the new season….maybe they believe it is better to keep the discussion in one thread.

[IjawMan]

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This discussion has been held in the meta board a week thereabouts and many comments favoured the idea that ops should lock the old league threads and new one be created. What I do not know is if the ops agreed on taking that suggestion cause I can still see some of the leagues old threads active, except for the champions league thread you made example of, and the Turkish super league thread too was locked and a new one was created.

[Emjay24]

But is it not self-centered thinking? You can prefer new threads to be created for it, but I can prefer to use the old thread. I mostly post on the old threads, although not frequently.

The threads should be allowed to operate; not everyone likes to continue discussion in a new thread. Maybe the titles can just be changed if the op of those threads is active. Even if a new season gets started and threads are created, everyone will decide where they want to continue posting.

The titles are always changed and current years reflected, just like the EPL prediction thread, Discussion threads, even my continent African football discussion thread is always updated by the OP to represent current competitions going on there, I like the mega threads as they're. I support that locking and starting new ones would have little or no positive effect and would make league threads clustered all over the gambling board just like we're having more and more new league threads opened almost everyday.

[Tetu100]

I think the reason why OP and some persons might want new topic to be created while the old one is being locked after a season has passed is probably because the old thread grow into a mega thread and some persons don't like going to mega thread, like myself, I hard write on league discussion mega thread, I know I did that before but stopped at some point. So, even if old leagues discussions thread is locked after a new season and new one is created, I don't think it's bad but where it would be bad is if everyone starts creating the same topic individually.

Exactly, not everyone post on mega thread as you highlighted, some people might think their opinion won't be counted which they may find it difficult to follow up, they think they are repeating what was already said. So, the point there is that the mods should balance this by locking the old thread and opening a new one, as it makes discussion clearer, cleaner, and enjoyable. This way can prevent threads from becoming too large.

Encouraging a lengthy thread is like promoting a long chain of spam. Because mostly of the things that are being discussed there on the mega threads has already been discussed like a thousand times so what is the point still keeping it open. The best is for the op to lock it up when necessary, but failure for the op to do so then the mods can take it upon himself to lock it up which automatically settled it. Maybe a new one will be created when necessary.

Moreover discussions on a fresh thread looks more authentic, educative and more informative then a mega threads that has already being exhausted by repetitive ideas.

[Queen uloma]

I agree with your idea because locking old league threads and creating a new one when a new season starts, will make the Broad more organized.  It will help reduce unnecessary spam and it will also help us follow new discussions. For me, once season is finished, the old thread is suppose to be lock and new one should be open, for the new season.

[PostQuantumBTC]

I agree with your idea because locking old league threads and creating a new one when a new season starts, will make the Broad more organized.  It will help reduce unnecessary spam and it will also help us follow new discussions. For me, once season is finished, the old thread is suppose to be lock and new one should be open, for the new season.

Have you been reading what many users have been posting on this thread? Some people give good reasons the topics should not be locked. I do not think you are read what they posted or maybe you just still want to give your own opinion.

Creating new threads does not means the spam will reduce. You are also not right in that part. The new threads will not make the gambling discussion board neater, that is also it true, it will not make it neater.

[yixichloro2xx]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5591319.msg67047132#msg67047132
This other guy is complaining that we football fans league thread is getting too much. He is proposing multiple league thread merging together, which I don't agree to, because I noticed that he knows nothing about football. For him to call football soccer still annoys me. Moreover you are also pushing for new threads to be created for every new season.  Personally, I think the best way to do it is if there is a limit (maybe numbers of amount of pages) on each league thread , once the thread reaches that limit ,then the thread should be locked. Which will now pave way for a new league thread to be created.