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August 22, 2026, 08:42:58 PM
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The ingredients are correct but the recipe is wrong. Like way off in some parts. BlackRock manages 15 trillion. Yes. That is a true number and it is astounding. Controlling markets and managing money are two different things. The majority of this 15 trillion is passive index funds. They are not in a room today determining what the price of oil should be. It is easier to say "manipulation". Its financialization. Different thing entirely. Manipulation implies someone breaking rules. The rules are the problem, this is financialization. They have been drafted to insure this result.

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August 22, 2026, 08:43:27 PM
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Money rules and run the world that I can agree with but don't act like it's the Americans that are calling the shot. They couldn't even defeat small Iran how then do we still think everything is about them. Talking about wealth, we have many men that can stand toe to toe with Elon Musk (his wealth isn't even sure). We have 100's of billionaires from Asia yearly and we  still think the Americans are calling the shot? Apart from the money too I feel a lot has to come in for the world to listen to you and that's where the American are still calling the shot but as for money, America is in huge debt, trillions if I'm not mistaken.
You said exactly what I said. The main reason for America's dominance in the world is not money, they try to rule the world through a huge army, secret forces and traitors from different countries. But that dominance is nothing to the Iranians, it proves that America is not the controller of the world yet.

As the OP mentioned, the US has such a huge amount of money with which they can do whatever they want, I think it is completely wrong. Despite having so much money, they could not free the Strait of Hormuz, could not pay their debts, failed to control Iran and there are other defeats. Even if they can control the oil market, I am not willing to accept that the BTC market and the wheat market are controlled by them. In my country, local farmers still control the wheat market. It is true that rich people can control the economy to some extent, but they cannot do whatever they want.











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August 22, 2026, 08:45:11 PM
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There is money and there is power and both work almost in the same direction, because if you have money, you are more likely to develop power because of the influence you have the capacity to make, but we should also know that money is not everything, some achievement cannot be done by money alone, and this is where we must also make use of the power we have wisely in order not to take it for granted for any reason, both money and power should be used to achieve human development goal and in building up a successful society around us and not to take advantage of such against others.
Money actually ruled the world because a nation can not build itself as a powerful nation without money, as well as an individual or a nation can be come powerless if they start losing their wealth. Most of the people that are ruling this world now are the wealthiest individuals. Bedside that money is among the most valuable thing in the world now, to become a protected and valuable person you most possess money. If we can observe the most strongest and nations,  they use money to operate and influence other nations. Honestly building power without money or economic resources is impossible.

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August 23, 2026, 08:53:41 AM
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When is realize that the quest for money can strip one of there humanity, it shows the stronghold it has on human existence, for every 10$ you spend someone is making 100x in profit and the verge to retain wealth, man just has to do unspeakable things. And the painful thing is money has changed from currency to different things in form of assets, bonds and crypto currency that we don't know that 80% of the day we think of money, it's every where and the most common free thing is now tied to money.

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August 24, 2026, 02:47:03 PM
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BlackRock and Vanguard are managing a very large amount of capital, but that doesn't mean they carry the wealth, nor can we say that they can move the entire market whenever they want. Much of the money that they hold belongs to pension fund individuals and government as well as investors.

Future markets exist because consumers investors, and producers all manage risk and discover prices. Speculators can influence the prices for the short term, but sustained prices still have to interact with physical supply and demand. In modern trading, algorithms can play an important role, but it is not same as algorithms being able to manipulate entire global commodity market.

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August 25, 2026, 05:42:09 PM
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BlackRock and Vanguard are managing a very large amount of capital, but that doesn't mean they carry the wealth, nor can we say that they can move the entire market whenever they want. Much of the money that they hold belongs to pension fund individuals and government as well as investors.

Future markets exist because consumers investors, and producers all manage risk and discover prices. Speculators can influence the prices for the short term, but sustained prices still have to interact with physical supply and demand. In modern trading, algorithms can play an important role, but it is not same as algorithms being able to manipulate entire global commodity market.
This is what I have been trying to tell people, and they do not understand it. They think that whenever Blackrock wants to buy something, they can go ahead and buy it; that is not the case at all. Even their own money, which they make from running all that money for others- I mean, even their own profits- they can't spend that much because that belongs to shareholders as well, and if you make a wrong move, then the shareholders will end up making a big deal out of it.

This is why the best thing we can do at this given moment would be making sure that we are not dealing with blackrock impact or anything like that, it can't happen, and we should not be looking at that as a possibility, they are just doing whatever the retail wants them to do, if their investor wants to buy then they buy, if they investor wants to sell then they sell, they are sort of like binance, people control it, it is not binance buying, it's you buying, using binance, same with blackrock.

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August 25, 2026, 06:27:54 PM
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This is all about power; money is power. The world's great influencers are those who can manage enormous sums of money, in the stock market, in any speculative market.

Having money is synonymous with having power, and they are the ones who can manipulate many systems, even markets. The rules of money? I think there are no rules other than those set by the wealthiest.

We live in a system where very few achieve financial freedom. Normally, in the global economic system of fiat currency, it's difficult to become rich. The most viable option I've seen to obtain more comfort and at least achieve financial freedom is through Bitcoin.

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August 25, 2026, 06:47:26 PM
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Money built on a bad foundation by corrupt-minded people involved will eventually lead to distrust. What binds them together is the money, not genuine loyalty and trust. If one of them becomes too greedy, it will cause chaos and lead to the gang's extermination. 

This is not about foundation or corrupt minded people, but it's more about interest, because you will always see folks that share the same interests clusters together, and since all of them are corrupt and money minded, it's not a thing of surprise if they work in peace to actualize their goal. Loyalty can hardly be found when money is involved, because someone that turns down ten million dollars to do a bad or criminal job may find it hard to turn down hundred million dollars, that's why I believe that when high numbers is involved, everything is possible.




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August 25, 2026, 08:45:12 PM
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BlackRock and Vanguard are managing a very large amount of capital, but that doesn't mean they carry the wealth, nor can we say that they can move the entire market whenever they want. Much of the money that they hold belongs to pension fund individuals and government as well as investors.

Future markets exist because consumers investors, and producers all manage risk and discover prices. Speculators can influence the prices for the short term, but sustained prices still have to interact with physical supply and demand. In modern trading, algorithms can play an important role, but it is not same as algorithms being able to manipulate entire global commodity market.

Maybe the market is too big that their liquidity alone can't make too much changes in the market but they can manipulate some assets if they want to provided that they are not going to be probe for market manipulation and insider trading. Some of these assets we see that are moved isn't retailers that are making the move, most of the institutional investors are behind those moves but they don't tell the public because they have quick information before the update.

The other day when Nvida was printing money, we didn't even know the institutions where behind the move, we only knew AI and chip where becoming expensive and the new trend but institutions already bought and as the news move around, the retailers join the chase and it became a competition for everyone. Most often, people with wealth makes more money than people without information. You can't even make more money if you don't have money.

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August 25, 2026, 09:32:48 PM
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This is all about power; money is power. The world's great influencers are those who can manage enormous sums of money, in the stock market, in any speculative market.

Having money is synonymous with having power, and they are the ones who can manipulate many systems, even markets. The rules of money? I think there are no rules other than those set by the wealthiest.

We live in a system where very few achieve financial freedom. Normally, in the global economic system of fiat currency, it's difficult to become rich. The most viable option I've seen to obtain more comfort and at least achieve financial freedom is through Bitcoin.

Billionaires control politicians. The rich sponsor the elections of politicians, and this gives the former access to power. Some of the policies formulated and implemented by the government are proposed by some rich people. It is suspected that the crypto industry is getting favor from the current US government because they were major donor to Trump's election.

Yeah, Bitcoin has contributed to bridging the gap between the poor and rich. There are usually gatekeepers to every sector, and new entrants will have to pass through them to access available opportunities. But Bitcoin is open to everybody because there are no middlemen. Bitcoin has made many common people financially stable.


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August 26, 2026, 07:41:31 AM
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Money built on a bad foundation by corrupt-minded people involved will eventually lead to distrust. What binds them together is the money, not genuine loyalty and trust. If one of them becomes too greedy, it will cause chaos and lead to the gang's extermination. 

Money has a system. If you are in the cycle where the money flows, you don't need to do much; have a skill to get your hands on some of that money.
They would do anything to ensure it doesn't have negative impact on them, even to the extent of eliminating the one that stops trusting the process. Power intoxicates and the desire to remain in control is the foundation of many illegal practices like banditry, terrorism financing, wars, e.t.c.

There's nothing like genuine loyalty among the powerful, they'll have a common goal which is to remain in control and they collaborate to achieve that goal, having a common enemy which is anyone not in the circle that wants to displace them. As long as interests still align, they're allies, once it fails to align, they decamp to the camp of new allies and the old allies becomes enemies. It's always a game of interests.

 
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August 26, 2026, 08:18:59 AM
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Thats the way world runs, if we want to end suffering then we have to ban to become rich.

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Everyone cannot be equal, the inequality stimulates competition and innovation. The problem here is that in the want for more riches, nations suppress each other, so the competition is unhealthy. There's lots of interests and it makes stronger nations compete against each other at the detriment of weaker ones, to the extent of using them as battle grounds, their people die and those actually in the power tussle protect their citizens from harm. It's the predatory pattern in use, which benefits the rich and influential and leaves the poor vulnerable.

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This is not about foundation or corrupt minded people, but it's more about interest, because you will always see folks that share the same interests clusters together, and since all of them are corrupt and money minded, it's not a thing of surprise if they work in peace to actualize their goal. Loyalty can hardly be found when money is involved, because someone that turns down ten million dollars to do a bad or criminal job may find it hard to turn down hundred million dollars, that's why I believe that when high numbers is involved, everything is possible.

It is true that people are selling their morality for money. In some countries, corruption cannot be controlled in any way. The reason for this is that those who will work against corruption are themselves corrupted person. When a person is offered a large amount of money, he takes full advantage of his position to abuse the power as much as possible. If a country has transparency in all sectors from the beginning, honesty and patriotism among everyone, then there is no intention for the people and the nation of that country to be corrupt. And the over all system of a country should be created in such a way that no one has the opportunity to evade their responsibilities. There will be no situation where anyone can be given additional benefits in exchange for money, only then can corruption be eliminated.

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August 26, 2026, 05:51:46 PM
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This is not about foundation or corrupt minded people, but it's more about interest, because you will always see folks that share the same interests clusters together, and since all of them are corrupt and money minded, it's not a thing of surprise if they work in peace to actualize their goal. Loyalty can hardly be found when money is involved, because someone that turns down ten million dollars to do a bad or criminal job may find it hard to turn down hundred million dollars, that's why I believe that when high numbers is involved, everything is possible.
It is true that people are selling their morality for money. In some countries, corruption cannot be controlled in any way. The reason for this is that those who will work against corruption are themselves corrupted person. When a person is offered a large amount of money, he takes full advantage of his position to abuse the power as much as possible. If a country has transparency in all sectors from the beginning, honesty and patriotism among everyone, then there is no intention for the people and the nation of that country to be corrupt. And the over all system of a country should be created in such a way that no one has the opportunity to evade their responsibilities. There will be no situation where anyone can be given additional benefits in exchange for money, only then can corruption be eliminated.
I do not think that it would be possible because if that was the case, then we would have had at least one person doing something to prevent corruption in politics, the root of all corruption in a country. It is not possible to figure out a way to make sure there is zero corruption; if it was possible to have that, at least one country would have done it. But as we all know, every single country has corruption, even if it is not to betterment of yourself, you would do it to progress your own ideology, and then ruin the country.

There are too many people who do not have bad or corrupt intentions that still ruin a nation, because their ideas are the dangerous ones. Same with companies; maybe someone is not trying to make themselves rich, maybe it is not embezzlement, but they run the company to bankruptcy because of their bad ideas. Long story short, corruption isn't always for the person themselves; sometimes it is just about making a better world. That doesn't make it better, but worse, because people who are in charge are idiots. I have seen plenty of politicians like that, people who did not do it because of their own self-wealth or anything like that, but they did it because they thought they were right, and screwed an entire nation.

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August 26, 2026, 06:35:01 PM
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You're absolutely correct. Some of these rich business men you see around has strong ties with people in government and of course they are tools of money laundering because these politicians use them to achieve their criminal goals. Most big businesses you see today are being partnered with these dubious politicians. That is why it is easy for them to manipulate the prices of goods without facing sanctions from the government. The earlier we know politicians are major enemies of the economy, the better we will become because they benefit a lot in a dwindling economy that is why they worry less.
We have many of them in my country, the start by sponsoring different aspirants, when those aspirants win they have their share and thats by manipulating the economy through the price of what they produce, I think every country is suffering this, it might not be open for citizens to understand what's going, but that's the fact.

Politicians in the other way round, benefits from the business men too, like one of the big business man in my country, he now own a refinery, if deals are made open, I'm sure that the larger part of the money used in building that refinery might be coming from embezzled funds from politicians, because that's what they do, since they are directly part of deal, they can come up with any price, most of this rubbish are more in underdeveloped countries, politicians are worst that can happen to any nation that wants to develop, the west African countries are in a big mess already, because of politicians.

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Billionaires control politicians. The rich sponsor the elections of politicians, and this gives the former access to power. Some of the policies formulated and implemented by the government are proposed by some rich people. It is suspected that the crypto industry is getting favor from the current US government because they were major donor to Trump's election.

Yeah, Bitcoin has contributed to bridging the gap between the poor and rich. There are usually gatekeepers to every sector, and new entrants will have to pass through them to access available opportunities. But Bitcoin is open to everybody because there are no middlemen. Bitcoin has made many common people financially stable.
You're right. If you think about it, those are the exact reasons why so many conspiracies become so popular. The idea that the rich control politicians is grounded in reality, even if the notion of total global domination by a single secret group takes it to another extreme.

Look at what gets published every year in "The Economist"—it follows that exact structural pattern. It's striking how political, economic, and cultural shifts often align with those high-level previews.

That is why people from low-income backgrounds struggle so hard to climb the ladder and achieve financial freedom. Concentrated power can easily shut down opportunities unless you happen to have a powerful backer to pull you up.

Without that, the best alternative will always be acquiring Bitcoin. So far, I haven't found any other vehicle as effective for bypassing those traditional gatekeepers.

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August 27, 2026, 09:24:29 AM
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Thats the way world runs, if we want to end suffering then we have to ban to become rich.

Everybody equal then no evil
Everyone cannot be equal, the inequality stimulates competition and innovation. The problem here is that in the want for more riches, nations suppress each other, so the competition is unhealthy. There's lots of interests and it makes stronger nations compete against each other at the detriment of weaker ones, to the extent of using them as battle grounds, their people die and those actually in the power tussle protect their citizens from harm. It's the predatory pattern in use, which benefits the rich and influential and leaves the poor vulnerable.

It's true everyone can not be equal and it won't make any sense to have everyone on equal wealth, there won't be any stability or balance. This applies to nations as well but it shouldn't be used to opress weaker ones. Nations are never meant to take things too far, they should be competing for a greater cause rather than trying to fight it out and see who is superior. These competitions are natural and is supposed to encourage other nations to seek development but instead they use it to pursue personal interest and they don't care what effect it has on weak countries.

Most people get it wrong, thinking that the system is meant to make poor people or Nations remain poor and rely on Richer countries to survive. It's never supposed to be so.

 
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August 27, 2026, 09:42:43 AM
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Money built on a bad foundation by corrupt-minded people involved will eventually lead to distrust. What binds them together is the money, not genuine loyalty and trust. If one of them becomes too greedy, it will cause chaos and lead to the gang's extermination. 

This is not about foundation or corrupt minded people, but it's more about interest, because you will always see folks that share the same interests clusters together, and since all of them are corrupt and money minded, it's not a thing of surprise if they work in peace to actualize their goal. Loyalty can hardly be found when money is involved, because someone that turns down ten million dollars to do a bad or criminal job may find it hard to turn down hundred million dollars, that's why I believe that when high numbers is involved, everything is possible.

I get what you mean. some people tend to connect with others who share the same interests and way of thinking. once a money gets involved, especially when the value offer is a huge amount, then things can change very really quickly. Someone might strongly reject a specific deal when the reward is small, but when the amount becomes a life changing, their principles can suddenly be put to the test.
I also think that’s why a corruption can be so difficult to deal with. It’s not always just one bad person making a decision. Sometimes it becomes a whole group of people protecting each other because they all benefit from the same system.

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August 27, 2026, 10:52:09 AM
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Money is important because it is influential only if we try to engage using it for positive things. If you don't have money, you will be depressed and feel oppressed as well, because you will be limited in achieving certain goals in life. We need money to support ourselves, but you can also pursue your personal ambition and make some tangible achievements in life.

Money can get us fame and influence. Money is also a tool to reshape anything that is not aligned with the proper way it should be. It has helped many achieve their dream in life and bring out their true personality in them. If you don't have money, you can decide to work harder and be self-independent, with your determination to make money in order to influence other people positively.

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I also think that’s why a corruption can be so difficult to deal with. It’s not always just one bad person making a decision. Sometimes it becomes a whole group of people protecting each other because they all benefit from the same system.

You just nailed it with this statement mate. In most society their is always a group of powerful corrupt people that protect themselves from any of them facing the full wrath of the law. In my country godatherism is the main problem why corruption will be difficult to stop, because an out going governor, a political or economic leader will do everything to put his boy there, so that all his shit will not be exposed, and brought to book, that is why you will hardly see a politician goes to prison upon the terrible things he did while in office. So I utterly agree with you when you said that something a whole group of powerful people keeps on protecting themselves, and since they are powerful, most people will be afraid of crossing any of them, which I believe is in every community worldwide.

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