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August 27, 2026, 02:02:12 PM
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You just nailed it with this statement mate. In most society their is always a group of powerful corrupt people that protect themselves from any of them facing the full wrath of the law. In my country godatherism is the main problem why corruption will be difficult to stop, because an out going governor, a political or economic leader will do everything to put his boy there, so that all his shit will not be exposed, and brought to book, that is why you will hardly see a politician goes to prison upon the terrible things he did while in office. So I utterly agree with you when you said that something a whole group of powerful people keeps on protecting themselves, and since they are powerful, most people will be afraid of crossing any of them, which I believe is in every community worldwide.
You can find corrupt leaders in all the countries especially in the government. And what they do to remain powerful is maintaining their secrets and then they will pass it to their successor who then will hide their secrets and carry on with their legacy. This is because if  there secrets is exposed it can bring down their empires. So that is why they anoint a trusted person as their successor that will protect what they have builds over the years. Sometimes their successor may not like to follow the same path like their godfathers and that will cause a great misunderstanding. In some countries,citizens protest against godfatherism,some of them gets killed during the protests by security forces who might be following orders from above and that's bad.

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August 27, 2026, 03:56:58 PM
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Rich business men can manipulate the economy of their countries because the government needs their money to make the economy grow. This is why you see that the government draws these business men close in order to use them to manipulate the price of commodities and money laundering. This is exactly, what's happening in my country. Wall Street isn't different.
Not that the government need the money of those wealthy businessmen to make the economy grow. The government can always take external loans if they want to inject money in the economy. The government officials are closer to these wealthy businessmen because they invested and bought shares in their big companies. They steal money from the treasury of the country and divert it to personal use. And the best way they can move these money is by liaising with well known wealthy businessmen in the country and invest in their businesses. When last did you hear that the government of your country borrowed money from those wealthy businessmen and women in your country? When government need money they go to banks to borrow and not from individuals.

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August 27, 2026, 10:33:16 PM
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Rich business men can manipulate the economy of their countries because the government needs their money to make the economy grow. This is why you see that the government draws these business men close in order to use them to manipulate the price of commodities and money laundering. This is exactly, what's happening in my country. Wall Street isn't different.
Not that the government need the money of those wealthy businessmen to make the economy grow. The government can always take external loans if they want to inject money in the economy. The government officials are closer to these wealthy businessmen because they invested and bought shares in their big companies. They steal money from the treasury of the country and divert it to personal use. And the best way they can move these money is by liaising with well known wealthy businessmen in the country and invest in their businesses. When last did you hear that the government of your country borrowed money from those wealthy businessmen and women in your country? When government need money they go to banks to borrow and not from individuals.
exactly, the state has monetary independence to bring bank credit without turning to wealth of entrepreneurs. The close links between the officials and business tycoons has had the effect of providing a veil of secrecy to the embezzling of societal wealth to the individual sector.

One of the best means of laundering corrupt money is through the acquisition of shares in big corporations, where no supervisory auditing can take place. This shady symbiosis manages to pass off state money in private property under the cover of companies.


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August 27, 2026, 10:45:21 PM
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Rich business men can manipulate the economy of their countries because the government needs their money to make the economy grow. This is why you see that the government draws these business men close in order to use them to manipulate the price of commodities and money laundering. This is exactly, what's happening in my country. Wall Street isn't different.
Not that the government need the money of those wealthy businessmen to make the economy grow. The government can always take external loans if they want to inject money in the economy. The government officials are closer to these wealthy businessmen because they invested and bought shares in their big companies. They steal money from the treasury of the country and divert it to personal use. And the best way they can move these money is by liaising with well known wealthy businessmen in the country and invest in their businesses. When last did you hear that the government of your country borrowed money from those wealthy businessmen and women in your country? When government need money they go to banks to borrow and not from individuals.

I don't know practices in other countries, but in my country, government can get financing from private sector through Government Debt Instruments (SUN) and Government Sharia Securities (SBSN). The mechanism government issue bonds to obtain funds and pays coupon to investor who buy them, all full amount will be returned at maturity.B eside that government has retail government bonds (ORI) anf Savings Bond Ritel (SBR) which intended for Indonesian citizen.

Other tools, government can also do private placement, for this, government can ofeer and sell Government Debt Instrument to specific selected investor without standard public offering mechanism. So in my country everybody can be creditor for government. And private sector hold government debt instrument in large amount. In my country, this is formal arrangement and it is an established and regulated part of public finance.

So beside foreign direct investment and bank, the private sector is an important part of the government's domestic investor base.

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Today at 11:58:28 AM
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You just nailed it with this statement mate. In most society their is always a group of powerful corrupt people that protect themselves from any of them facing the full wrath of the law. In my country godatherism is the main problem why corruption will be difficult to stop, because an out going governor, a political or economic leader will do everything to put his boy there, so that all his shit will not be exposed, and brought to book, that is why you will hardly see a politician goes to prison upon the terrible things he did while in office. So I utterly agree with you when you said that something a whole group of powerful people keeps on protecting themselves, and since they are powerful, most people will be afraid of crossing any of them, which I believe is in every community worldwide.
You can find corrupt leaders in all the countries especially in the government. And what they do to remain powerful is maintaining their secrets and then they will pass it to their successor who then will hide their secrets and carry on with their legacy. This is because if  there secrets is exposed it can bring down their empires. So that is why they anoint a trusted person as their successor that will protect what they have builds over the years. Sometimes their successor may not like to follow the same path like their godfathers and that will cause a great misunderstanding. In some countries,citizens protest against godfatherism,some of them gets killed during the protests by security forces who might be following orders from above and that's bad.
I have been in politics before, and I can tell you, they do not allow people who are not corrupt to go further; that is the reason. Well, if a person is corrupt already and at the top, then they want corrupt people around them. If you are not corrupt, you will not be around them. This is true for a president; this is true for a mayor of a small village, doesn't matter.

So if you are not corrupt and want to get into politics, you can do it independently if you want, and in that case you will have a very low chance of getting elected in today's world where everyone is "my team and other team", where you are not even in any team. Or you will pick a team, and corrupt people of that party will not let you grow into a bigger position; they won't appoint you, and all you have is being nominated, and usually nominations even go through that party, and if not, they will support the corrupt one more, and you will lose. Very rarely do people get any power if they are not corrupt.
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Today at 01:07:07 PM
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I have been in politics before, and I can tell you, they do not allow people who are not corrupt to go further; that is the reason. Well, if a person is corrupt already and at the top, then they want corrupt people around them. If you are not corrupt, you will not be around them. This is true for a president; this is true for a mayor of a small village, doesn't matter.

When dealing with corrupt group of people, the only way to dislodged them is through the use of force or if you are even more corrupt than them, which will possibly makes you not different from them. And one bad thing about these sets of people is that they don't find it hard to kill anyone that stands in their way in achieving what they they want, because they can do and undo, believing that they have someone in government or in position to shield them from any reprisal or the law if they are caught, that's why it's a big problem or obstacles to the growth of the society.

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Today at 01:38:19 PM
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I have been in politics before, and I can tell you, they do not allow people who are not corrupt to go further; that is the reason. Well, if a person is corrupt already and at the top, then they want corrupt people around them. If you are not corrupt, you will not be around them. This is true for a president; this is true for a mayor of a small village, doesn't matter.

So if you are not corrupt and want to get into politics, you can do it independently if you want, and in that case you will have a very low chance of getting elected in today's world where everyone is "my team and other team", where you are not even in any team. Or you will pick a team, and corrupt people of that party will not let you grow into a bigger position; they won't appoint you, and all you have is being nominated, and usually nominations even go through that party, and if not, they will support the corrupt one more, and you will lose. Very rarely do people get any power if they are not corrupt.
Exactly, I can relate with your points most especially when you mentioned that corrupt people also want corrupt people around them and this is one of the biggest problems we are facing today in politics because the rate of which corruption is turning to a normal thing in the society is so alarming and it’s turning to a normal culture gradually and those with integrity the society are now seen as a threat and thats why so many people with integrity and God fearing heart have falling into the trap of the corrupt leaders because they are now seen as a threat and either their carrier or their lives is now at stake. I also believe it is dangerous to say that a person must be corrupt to succeed in politics because as a student of political science I have see a lot not just in the society but even inside the normal school small, small politics a lot has happen tho there are still people who enter politics with good intentions but the main issue is having the courage and support to remain honest when the system is not on your side.

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