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August 21, 2026, 05:01:24 PM
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Yes its huge ammount but if we all pay it can be paid, imagine if usa friendly allies couuntries will make debt fee for taxes it could work. So some % will be used of every taxes instantly to just finance usa debt.

So if all people together will pay the debt can be paid or even tho if we tax riches of uk europe canada and this will be used to pay usa debt then its not so bad.

If usa doing fine the stock market will go up btc will go up gold will go up we all doing good so let's help usa
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August 21, 2026, 06:40:22 PM
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And why would the U.S. need to pay off its debt? Smiley
They’re perfectly comfortable living with this debt,  it doesn’t cause any major problems. If necessary, they’ll print as many dollars as they need, which will quietly disappear into the global market, and "export" inflation to other economies. "U.S. national debt" is a fleeting scare tactic that each side simply exploits for its own purposes.


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August 21, 2026, 07:30:29 PM
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While the idea may sound like an easy solution but in reality it is completely impossible. No independent country or its people will ever agree to pay additional taxes to take responsibility for the debt of another country, no matter how loyal their ally is the US, If such a tax is imposed on the rich country, they will immediately move their wealth to another safe haven or tax haven which will in turn collapse the economies of those countries.  Another thing is that there is no guarantee that the price of BTC ,or gold will only increase if the US economy is doing well. Also trying to solve the problem by taxing the rich in other countries could create political and economic pressure.

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August 21, 2026, 07:34:50 PM
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If usa doing fine the stock market will go up btc will go up gold will go up we all doing good so let's help usa
But that does not mean that inflation in the United States will be eliminated. Also do not expect that United States will not be in dept. Just make sure that you buy bitcoin and other assets like bitcoin. Gold and Silver are other examples, but I will still prefer buying bitcoin more than any other assets.

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August 21, 2026, 08:18:07 PM
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And who pays off the debt of those other countries? Is this how special the USA are more than the rest of the world.

Each country has their debt they are servicing and you will not expect that the government taxes their citizens heavily just to help pay the debt of another country.

I know of debt cancellation, relief and pardon but never heard about this type you suggesting on behalf of the USA.

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August 21, 2026, 08:36:15 PM
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Yes its huge ammount but if we all pay it can be paid, imagine if usa friendly allies couuntries will make debt fee for taxes it could work. So some % will be used of every taxes instantly to just finance usa debt.

So if all people together will pay the debt can be paid or even tho if we tax riches of uk europe canada and this will be used to pay usa debt then its not so bad.

If usa doing fine the stock market will go up btc will go up gold will go up we all doing good so let's help usa

Are the US the only country in debt? Are you trying to say that the US controls the stock market, the price of bitcoin and that of gold as well. This is quite a sentimental analogy because as much as the US could have a great impact on the price of gold and bitcoin, its is not an underlying determinant of bitcoin's future.

It is unfair to pay off the debt of another country far more richer in economic standard without consideration for their personal interest., don't you think so?
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Do you have any idea what the total debt of all the countries in the world is?  Do you think we could pay that off if we joined forces?  And to whom exactly?

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Yes its huge ammount but if we all pay it can be paid, imagine if usa friendly allies couuntries will make debt fee for taxes it could work. So some % will be used of every taxes instantly to just finance usa debt.

So if all people together will pay the debt can be paid or even tho if we tax riches of uk europe canada and this will be used to pay usa debt then its not so bad.

If usa doing fine the stock market will go up btc will go up gold will go up we all doing good so let's help usa

dude tricky dick nixon boosted the usa debt bigly and we the usa went full out debt in 1971 when the gold standard was dropped.

look at this math

1776 to 1971 400 billion debt a 2 billion a year rate of debt

1971 to 2026 40 trillion debt  about 720 billion a year rate

and the last 10 years of trump + Biden + trump

we did 20 trillion in ten years or a 2 trillion a year number.

it will not end ever.

until the USD is knocked out.

and in the next 3 years we will do 10 trillion going to 50 trillion

and the year rate will be 3.33 trillion a year.

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What is the benefit of the government actually paying off the debt? The debt is there for a reason. The economy runs on debt, the debt can be paid but no completely removed. The debt is not as bad as you make it seem. Taxing people more just to service the loan is like a leader not thinking of the wellbeing of it's people. If the USA is fine everybody will be fine. That's absurd. Not true at all. The world economy is not tied to the USA and saying if USA is fine and we are all fine is not right. You seem not to understand your own post from the way I am looking at it. At the last part, you  mentioned BTC will now go up. In return, you are saying USA controls the movement of Bitcoin. Seriously?

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It's not only the US that's in a big debt, other countries are also in debt. If those US allies pays off US debt, which country will pay theirs. It's funny why you want other countries to pay US debt when Trump is doing anything he likes all in the name of making the US better in debt. He went to fight an unnecessary war against Iran which was cause by Israel.

Trump should use his hands to cover his face because even with the trade war and increase in trade tariffs, US was still able to record the highest debt so far, in the history of US this 2026.

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August 21, 2026, 09:15:23 PM
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Your point here is about reviving the economic situation of America so that the stock market and crypto market can do well but USA isn't the only country that has an economy that determines the outcome of the crypto and stock market. For the other countries that are in debt which country is going to pay them off? What makes America so special and why should other country pull.out their resources to help a country that doesn't care about most countries in the world.

You need to understand that America is a Sovereign and superior nation and they don't really need assistance to pay off their debts, they are capable of doing that themselves. The economy of the entire world and the movement of the financial market doesn't only depend on them. You have a wrong analogy of this.

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The OP is fantasizing and dreaming of a world where all assets rise perpetually, no dips, no fear,
no pain but fails to realise

a.) Governments have been playing with their peoples money and the OP wants the general public
to suffer yet more pain to bail out the governments

b.) so that they can start again and land everyone again in debt to the tune of trillions.

Best thing anyone can do is help themselves by adopting Bitcoin to counter the sliding FIAT value.

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August 21, 2026, 09:32:48 PM
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Yes its huge ammount but if we all pay it can be paid, imagine if usa friendly allies couuntries will make debt fee for taxes it could work. So some % will be used of every taxes instantly to just finance usa debt.

So if all people together will pay the debt can be paid or even tho if we tax riches of uk europe canada and this will be used to pay usa debt then its not so bad.

If usa doing fine the stock market will go up btc will go up gold will go up we all doing good so let's help usa

...
and the last 10 years of trump + Biden + trump

we did 20 trillion in ten years or a 2 trillion a year number.

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I wonder which USA friendly allies OP is talking about that could handle $2 trillion per year to bail out the USA. I am sorry but I don't know whether the question by OP is serious or whether he is a very young person still believing that we could all rescue each other. Trump wants to attack NATO by taking Greenland and Fullbear2222 asks why it is not possible that friendly allies (NATO, EU) bail the USA out. Come on, face palm or just forget about it? Cheesy

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August 21, 2026, 09:37:35 PM
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And who pays off the debt of those other countries? Is this how special the USA are more than the rest of the world.

Each country has their debt they are servicing and you will not expect that the government taxes their citizens heavily just to help pay the debt of another country.

I know of debt cancellation, relief and pardon but never heard about this type you suggesting on behalf of the USA.
The idea of paying off the debt of U.S by other countries joining hands and heads together is quite impossible from my perspective, because it falls on the U.S to maintain a stable economy in the form of having a stable ratio of debt to GDP, ensuring that investors from other countries are confident enough to invest in her economy by either buying its products or stocks or Treasury bonds and making sure interest rates are okay enough.


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Yes its huge ammount but if we all pay it can be paid, imagine if usa friendly allies couuntries will make debt fee for taxes it could work. So some % will be used of every taxes instantly to just finance usa debt.

So if all people together will pay the debt can be paid or even tho if we tax riches of uk europe canada and this will be used to pay usa debt then its not so bad.

If usa doing fine the stock market will go up btc will go up gold will go up we all doing good so let's help usa
In geopolitical terms, it is not feasible to put US bond on the shoulder of the cash receipt of the allied countries. Citizen of any nation would be greatly against having their official collection funds redirected in order to fill the current account deficit of another nation.

The dollar liquidity does indeed have a close connection with the international capital market. However, it is the responsibility of the monetary authorities in Washington with international help.


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August 21, 2026, 09:42:22 PM
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Yes its huge ammount but if we all pay it can be paid, imagine if usa friendly allies couuntries will make debt fee for taxes it could work. So some % will be used of every taxes instantly to just finance usa debt.

So if all people together will pay the debt can be paid or even tho if we tax riches of uk europe canada and this will be used to pay usa debt then its not so bad.

If usa doing fine the stock market will go up btc will go up gold will go up we all doing good so let's help usa

dude tricky dick nixon boosted the usa debt bigly and we the usa went full out debt in 1971 when the gold standard was dropped.

look at this math

1776 to 1971 400 billion debt a 2 billion a year rate of debt

1971 to 2026 40 trillion debt  about 720 billion a year rate

and the last 10 years of trump + Biden + trump

we did 20 trillion in ten years or a 2 trillion a year number.

it will not end ever.

until the USD is knocked out.

and in the next 3 years we will do 10 trillion going to 50 trillion

and the year rate will be 3.33 trillion a year.

I can pay 20$ my pocket you see how many people are in the world each can pay some money it helps
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August 21, 2026, 09:55:04 PM
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Yes its huge ammount but if we all pay it can be paid, imagine if usa friendly allies couuntries will make debt fee for taxes it could work. So some % will be used of every taxes instantly to just finance usa debt.

I will be the last guy to agree on this; we have nothing to do with those debts. They can take care of themselves; they spend billions of dollars on their war. We also have a problem of our own paying our own debts; our debts keep increasing because of the weakening of our currency.
We are paying these loans with dollars, and because of the weakening of our currency, we increase our existing debts by 8 to 10%. We have more internal problems than looking at other countries' problems

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Yes its huge ammount but if we all pay it can be paid, imagine if usa friendly allies couuntries will make debt fee for taxes it could work. So some % will be used of every taxes instantly to just finance usa debt.

So if all people together will pay the debt can be paid or even tho if we tax riches of uk europe canada and this will be used to pay usa debt then its not so bad.

If usa doing fine the stock market will go up btc will go up gold will go up we all doing good so let's help usa
I first laughed when I saw this post because I realised that my country is heavily indebted such that our governments were forced to devalue our currency. IMF or world bank cannot do that to the US which means they are free to owe debt and it will only affect their economy in terms of inflation, ours affect us in many painful ways. If there are people that need help, I think is most African countries.

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So if all people together will pay the debt can be paid or even tho if we tax riches of uk europe canada and this will be used to pay usa debt then its not so bad.

If usa doing fine the stock market will go up btc will go up gold will go up we all doing good so let's help usa
For any country, it’s possible to pay the debt if citizens pay from their pocket or through high taxes. But does it really make sense? If it were an easy process, then every country would come out of debt. Any country shouldn’t take a loan then if citizens pay by debit. The government would simply collect funds from the public instead of taking a loan.

However, I am not an economist, but it won’t be a solution for a country. A country should pay debts from the revenue, not from the citizens' pockets. Otherwise the local economy won’t be stable anyway, and probably the country will encounter inflation as well.

 
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August 21, 2026, 10:42:57 PM
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I can pay 20$ my pocket you see how many people are in the world each can pay some money it helps

How generous of you to help the US to pay their debt, because if it were me, I would not want to spend a single penny just to pay my country's debt, and especially the US debt.

Because the debt problem should be the government's business.. the people have contributed in so many ways, taxes and other contributions, and why else do they need to contribute to pay the country's debt? it should be the government's responsibility to figure out how to solve it.. if they are not able, then they do not need to be in that position in the first place.

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