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September 10, 2026, 06:46:12 PM
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Saw somewhere that accepting bonus when Depositing exposes your account to house edge advantage, that not accepting any Bonus from a casino often makes your account more stronger and not liable to be house edge oppresses. When I saw this, then I tell myself not to even accept smaller odds at all, no matter how it seems, I just have to stay clear from it. Because it may seems like a trap, for accepting small bonus and then gradually pulling into exposing your betting strength to house edge vulnerability.

No. That's just a "kids' scary story" Smiley
Such behavior by a casino would quickly come to light, and in essence, it would mean a complete loss of reputation and customers. They would lose both existing customers (who would realize the casino is manipulating information) and potential customers who learn about this casino and its "schemes". No, I’m sure that normal casinos simply wouldn’t take such risks.

It's based on many players' shared experiences. Most bonuses, especially the welcome bonuses, don't have the same results as the deposited money. I think I will have to agree with that, and also basing on my experience.

The same goes for the cashback money, especially if you are playing in a local online casino. You could see how unfair the games will be if you are only using the cashback money. It's true that they won't admit this, but I have been playing for a long time, and I think many of us could tell that it is not just a myth or a superstitious belief anymore. Even if we find ways by picking low-volatility games, it's the same result. We are just prolonging the inevitable.


Hmm... That changes things.
I have no reason to doubt your words - in fact, I trust you! But  that raises a question for me - if you know that the site isn’t treating you fairly, why do you keep visiting it and maintaining an account there? I’m going to step away from the topic of gambling for a moment and share my general attitude toward those who treat me unfairly - I simply cut ties with people like that!
I won’t tolerate that kind of treatment, so I unilaterally cut ties. This applies to people, services, and businesses. I believe that’s exactly how you should react to a gambling site that tries to cheat you or manipulate you.

In my opinion, this is a philosophical question. 🙋

I really enjoy reading Roger Zelazny's novels, and they often feature stories where the protagonist is forced to interact with beings far superior in strength and power. In such a situation, maintaining one's dignity is crucial... However, avoiding interaction with these beings, in my opinion, is also impossible.

We interact in virtual space with various internet entities (including online casinos). Very often, they are unfair (but then, the real world is unfair too).

Fearing bot farms and players with large numbers of accounts, online casinos impose strict rules, KYC, geographic restrictions, additional withdrawal conditions, and so on. Players are forced to interact with soulless algorithms that complicate their lives and prevent them from enjoying the joy of the game. This is the reality of the modern virtual world... Yes, you can escape the virtual world and live in a dugout in nature, but that choice is also considered a loss, right?


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September 12, 2026, 12:06:34 PM
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I honestly don't blame casino bonuses for anything, because even if they made it easier to gamblers to get bonuses they will abuse it, solving this problem is making bonuses a bit harder to claim.

Atleast this is a free stuff, since nothing comes easily then what are you all expecting? Giving up free money should be raising some heavy eyebrows.

Nothing is for free, it's why I don't look into bonus anymore and if I have to it will be the smallest ones, those who expires very faster and for limited numbers of people.
Gambling with excessive greed can lead to poor decision making, which increases the risk of losing money. It is better to control your greed and gamble. I agree with you that it is not right to expect too much from a bonuses. To withdraw the bonuses money, a gambler has to meet the specific conditions of the casino, which can empty the deposit balance, so it is not right to gamble with a very aggressive attitude for a bonuses.

Without a doubt, a person's greed is enough to destroy him, so it is not right to chase after bonuses, it is completely unreasonable to gamble with excessive risks for bonuses, it is very important to always be aware, it is reasonable to control your greed and stay within your means.

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September 12, 2026, 12:28:33 PM
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We generally view bonuses as “traps” or consider their terms impossible to meet, but from a casino’s perspective, it can sometimes make sense to give users the chance to win money out of nowhere. All of the casinos that are popular right now spent a fortune on advertising and bonus promotions before they became popular. You don’t just use these offers and forget about them right away. It’s quite likely that you’ll return to a casino that has helped you make money in some way. Casinos offer these bonuses with that in mind.

It's not a trap but freebies and since I was born freebies have always not what it seems, the bonuses idea from online casino is a good thing, but to gamblers it's not something they should sit on as a way of making money.

Since it's free I wouldn't take it that serious like something I must get, it's why I like getting rewards for deposits for slots games, I am surely going to wager and it's part of why I am on the casino anyway.

I've hardly heard that anyone hits something massive using free spins only for example, maybe it has happened in the past but I have never seen people who got that lucky with bonuses.

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September 12, 2026, 01:11:04 PM
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We generally view bonuses as “traps” or consider their terms impossible to meet, but from a casino’s perspective, it can sometimes make sense to give users the chance to win money out of nowhere. All of the casinos that are popular right now spent a fortune on advertising and bonus promotions before they became popular. You don’t just use these offers and forget about them right away. It’s quite likely that you’ll return to a casino that has helped you make money in some way. Casinos offer these bonuses with that in mind.

It's not a trap but freebies and since I was born freebies have always not what it seems, the bonuses idea from online casino is a good thing, but to gamblers it's not something they should sit on as a way of making money.

Since it's free I wouldn't take it that serious like something I must get, it's why I like getting rewards for deposits for slots games, I am surely going to wager and it's part of why I am on the casino anyway.

I've hardly heard that anyone hits something massive using free spins only for example, maybe it has happened in the past but I have never seen people who got that lucky with bonuses.
That's a good way to look at it. If I plan to play, this free money lets me play longer. But it's not the main goal - it's just a bonus no one is obligated to give me.
The only thing that bothers me is getting bonuses I don't plan to use - like free spins at a casino where I only bet on sports.

P.S. I know there are bonus hunters with entire systems for squeezing maximum free money out of casinos, but I think it takes too much time to actually turn a profit.

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September 12, 2026, 02:08:54 PM
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We generally view bonuses as “traps” or consider their terms impossible to meet, but from a casino’s perspective, it can sometimes make sense to give users the chance to win money out of nowhere. All of the casinos that are popular right now spent a fortune on advertising and bonus promotions before they became popular. You don’t just use these offers and forget about them right away. It’s quite likely that you’ll return to a casino that has helped you make money in some way. Casinos offer these bonuses with that in mind.

It’s a lot like chumming the water when you’re fishing.
You have to throw out bait every now and then to get plenty of fish or to have a better catch. That’s how casinos operate, too. It’s easier to attract customers by offering bonuses, because the gambler is going to end up losing that bonus money anyway.
One time—I don’t recall the name of the site right now—I received a bonus. I didn’t pay much attention to the terms, but I managed to turn that bonus into five times the original amount. When I tried to withdraw the funds, I wasn't allowed to. It turned out there were rules I hadn't noticed—like no live betting, a minimum of three matches per bet slip, and minimum odds requirements—so my attempt was rejected.
They told me that if I deposited my own money, I could potentially multiply it three or four times over; that was the offer they made. I ended up cancelling my membership without making a deposit. Situations like that certainly happen.

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September 12, 2026, 08:02:18 PM
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We generally view bonuses as “traps” or consider their terms impossible to meet, but from a casino’s perspective, it can sometimes make sense to give users the chance to win money out of nowhere. All of the casinos that are popular right now spent a fortune on advertising and bonus promotions before they became popular. You don’t just use these offers and forget about them right away. It’s quite likely that you’ll return to a casino that has helped you make money in some way. Casinos offer these bonuses with that in mind.

Bonuses are offered to attract new players and to force everyone to play again and again. If a casino offers additional bonuses, then it certainly does not take much money to promote that casino and very quickly everyone can know about that casino and the demand for casino use increases a lot.

However, a person can have a big problem with taking bonuses for this. For example, when he gets a bonus, he can play extra with the bonus amount and he may become addicted to this extra play, which will not be right for them at all and addiction is not good for anyone.

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September 13, 2026, 12:18:16 PM
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We generally view bonuses as “traps” or consider their terms impossible to meet, but from a casino’s perspective, it can sometimes make sense to give users the chance to win money out of nowhere. All of the casinos that are popular right now spent a fortune on advertising and bonus promotions before they became popular. You don’t just use these offers and forget about them right away. It’s quite likely that you’ll return to a casino that has helped you make money in some way. Casinos offer these bonuses with that in mind.

Bonuses are offered to attract new players and to force everyone to play again and again. If a casino offers additional bonuses, then it certainly does not take much money to promote that casino and very quickly everyone can know about that casino and the demand for casino use increases a lot.

However, a person can have a big problem with taking bonuses for this. For example, when he gets a bonus, he can play extra with the bonus amount and he may become addicted to this extra play, which will not be right for them at all and addiction is not good for anyone.
Yes, bonus is used to attract players or gamblers to the casino.
And you are actually correct when the casino has a bonus or gives very good bonuses to players or gamblers. They are actually going to have a lot of customers because that is what people love.

Any gambler, who is afraid of playing extra more to get or withdraw is not actually a good gambler.
If you know how to set boundaries and how to know your limit, you will never be addicted to gambling, people that are usually addicted to gambling are those  who don’t know how to set limit and don’t know when to stop.

 
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September 13, 2026, 02:21:19 PM
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Yes, bonus is used to attract players or gamblers to the casino.
And you are actually correct when the casino has a bonus or gives very good bonuses to players or gamblers. They are actually going to have a lot of customers because that is what people love.
Bonus is like a trap to lure gamblers to join casino and anyone who is chasing bonus end up becoming an addict or loss more in gambling. And it is good to be with a casino as a gambler and when bonus comes, you take it and use it but you have to focus on the deposit more and not the bonus. Because you have to use the bonus to win and it is from the winning of the bonus that will be converted to real money and from there, you can use it to play and if you win then you can withdraw it. And that is why I said focus on the deposit more.

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September 13, 2026, 02:33:45 PM
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Yes, bonus is used to attract players or gamblers to the casino.
And you are actually correct when the casino has a bonus or gives very good bonuses to players or gamblers. They are actually going to have a lot of customers because that is what people love.
Bonus is like a trap to lure gamblers to join casino and anyone who is chasing bonus end up becoming an addict or loss more in gambling. And it is good to be with a casino as a gambler and when bonus comes, you take it and use it but you have to focus on the deposit more and not the bonus. Because you have to use the bonus to win and it is from the winning of the bonus that will be converted to real money and from there, you can use it to play and if you win then you can withdraw it. And that is why I said focus on the deposit more.
Offering bonus to bettors is a strategy that casinos used to hold to gamblers to continue gambling, at time you can stop gambling for some while and when they noticed they will send you a reminder that you have bonus which you can use bet on games so you could still be attracted to continue gambling, since those bonus can't be withdraw unless you gamble with it and probably win before you can cash it out, focusing more on your deposit is one thing gamblers need to be mindful of, gamblers should always deposit and gamble with money they can afford to loss i believe this is the one way people can gamble responsibly.

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September 13, 2026, 02:43:53 PM
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Offering bonus to bettors is a strategy that casinos used to hold to gamblers to continue gambling, at time you can stop gambling for some while and when they noticed they will send you a reminder that you have bonus which you can use bet on games so you could still be attracted to continue gambling since those bonus can't be withdraw unless you gamble with it and probably win before you can cash it out, focusing more your deposit is gambling need to be mindful of, gamblers should always deposit and gamble with money they can afford to loss i believe this is the one way people can gamble responsibly.

Offering bonus is not what casinos use to hold gamblers but it is used to hold some gamblers because it is not every gambler that overly react because they saw bonus on their gambling account and that is very unlike me, i do not gamble because of bonus, i love using my money to gamble and i can not really count how many times casino sites gave me bonus and i neglected them all because i have already said i won't gamble that particular time and the bonus expired and i do not want someone to tell me it is discipline because i know, bonus won't move a gambler if they are discipline.

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Offering bonus is not what casinos use to hold gamblers but it is used to hold some gamblers because it is not every gambler that overly react because they saw bonus on their gambling account and that is very unlike me, i do not gamble because of bonus, i love using my money to gamble and i can not really count how many times casino sites gave me bonus and i neglected them all because i have already said i won't gamble that particular time and the bonus expired and i do not want someone to tell me it is discipline because i know, bonus won't move a gambler if they are discipline.
I also don't view bonuses as a reason to place extra bets or make additional deposits. I selectively choose only those bonuses and free spins that can genuinely help me secure real winnings money I can actually withdraw. Offers that require lengthy wagering requirements hold absolutely no appeal for me. Bookmakers likely bank on the fact that many beginners will be eager to clear these bonuses and keep making deposit after deposit. Professionals, however, already understand that their success stems from winning strategies, vast experience, emotional control, and risk management they have little to no need for such bonuses.

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September 13, 2026, 05:56:42 PM
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Bonus is like a trap to lure gamblers to join casino and anyone who is chasing bonus end up becoming an addict or loss more in gambling. And it is good to be with a casino as a gambler and when bonus comes, you take it and use it but you have to focus on the deposit more and not the bonus. Because you have to use the bonus to win and it is from the winning of the bonus that will be converted to real money and from there, you can use it to play and if you win then you can withdraw it. And that is why I said focus on the deposit more.
The biggest traps here isn’t really the bonuses itself, but the terms and conditions attached to the bonuses by the casino. The promise of a bonus can actually encourage players to keep on playing with the mindset and hopes of unlocking some treasures, even though they would’ve ordinarily stopped playing on normal circumstances. So if the bonus given to you by the casino is already making you to play more than you would ordinarily have done, then it’s obvious that the casino is actually getting more value from you than the bonus would ever give to you.

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I honestly don't blame casino bonuses for anything, because even if they made it easier to gamblers to get bonuses they will abuse it, solving this problem is making bonuses a bit harder to claim.

Atleast this is a free stuff, since nothing comes easily then what are you all expecting? Giving up free money should be raising some heavy eyebrows.

Nothing is for free, it's why I don't look into bonus anymore and if I have to it will be the smallest ones, those who expires very faster and for limited numbers of people.
Gambling with excessive greed can lead to poor decision making, which increases the risk of losing money. It is better to control your greed and gamble. I agree with you that it is not right to expect too much from a bonuses. To withdraw the bonuses money, a gambler has to meet the specific conditions of the casino, which can empty the deposit balance, so it is not right to gamble with a very aggressive attitude for a bonuses.

Without a doubt, a person's greed is enough to destroy him, so it is not right to chase after bonuses, it is completely unreasonable to gamble with excessive risks for bonuses, it is very important to always be aware, it is reasonable to control your greed and stay within your means.

I just hope that for the players sake that when they finally do meet the requirements to withdraw their money that they do so and move on to a casino that will allow them some more freedom or just plain and simple they do not utilize the bonus spins and put themself into a bind with their money and withdrawal requirements.

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September 15, 2026, 05:35:59 PM
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The biggest traps here isn’t really the bonuses itself, but the terms and conditions attached to the bonuses by the casino.
How can it be a trap if the terms and conditions are written clearly which can be read by all users even before trying to get the bonus?
Actually there is no trap here as long as all terms are informed publicly, the real trap is on the gambler's mindset where they think that bonuses can give them bigger edge in gambling which trigger them to play more than what they should.
Bonuses in casino is not something to chase, this point of view should be in our mindset as gamblers because bonuses should be taken as side effect for our gambling activity only.

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September 15, 2026, 06:40:40 PM
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We generally view bonuses as “traps” or consider their terms impossible to meet, but from a casino’s perspective, it can sometimes make sense to give users the chance to win money out of nowhere. All of the casinos that are popular right now spent a fortune on advertising and bonus promotions before they became popular. You don’t just use these offers and forget about them right away. It’s quite likely that you’ll return to a casino that has helped you make money in some way. Casinos offer these bonuses with that in mind.

It's not a trap but freebies and since I was born freebies have always not what it seems, the bonuses idea from online casino is a good thing, but to gamblers it's not something they should sit on as a way of making money.

Since it's free I wouldn't take it that serious like something I must get, it's why I like getting rewards for deposits for slots games, I am surely going to wager and it's part of why I am on the casino anyway.

I've hardly heard that anyone hits something massive using free spins only for example, maybe it has happened in the past but I have never seen people who got that lucky with bonuses.


We can conclude that:
- Bonuses are calculated in such a way that, in theory, they cannot offer a high chance of winning
- Our colleague is correct on this point in suggesting that "special rules for playing with bonuses" apply, i.e., to put it bluntly, there may be direct manipulation of the process of playing with "free chips".


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September 15, 2026, 07:10:30 PM
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We generally view bonuses as “traps” or consider their terms impossible to meet, but from a casino’s perspective, it can sometimes make sense to give users the chance to win money out of nowhere. All of the casinos that are popular right now spent a fortune on advertising and bonus promotions before they became popular. You don’t just use these offers and forget about them right away. It’s quite likely that you’ll return to a casino that has helped you make money in some way. Casinos offer these bonuses with that in mind.
It's not a trap but freebies and since I was born freebies have always not what it seems, the bonuses idea from online casino is a good thing, but to gamblers it's not something they should sit on as a way of making money.

Since it's free I wouldn't take it that serious like something I must get, it's why I like getting rewards for deposits for slots games, I am surely going to wager and it's part of why I am on the casino anyway.

I've hardly heard that anyone hits something massive using free spins only for example, maybe it has happened in the past but I have never seen people who got that lucky with bonuses.
We can conclude that:
- Bonuses are calculated in such a way that, in theory, they cannot offer a high chance of winning
- Our colleague is correct on this point in suggesting that "special rules for playing with bonuses" apply, i.e., to put it bluntly, there may be direct manipulation of the process of playing with "free chips".
Yeah. Well, bonuses are just another way to keep you hooked into the casino. People often forget about casinos and move on, and this is where bonuses drag them back to the casino. One day, you see an email that offers you free 50 bucks. You don't want to gamble but you think - what can really go wrong in claiming these 50 bucks, wagering a bit, and withdrawing it? This is where you are entering the casino again and who knows by the time you close the site, you already deposited 500 in tilt!

This is what the bonus does to the gambler! Casinos are not doing a charity and the only reason a bonus is ever offered is because they expect the player to play more because of these bonuses and at other times, they pull the lost player back with these bonuses.

You don't play on your casino for a month and see what kind of emails you'll get Wink.

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How can it be a trap if the terms and conditions are written clearly which can be read by all users even before trying to get the bonus?
Actually there is no trap here as long as all terms are informed publicly, the real trap is on the gambler's mindset where they think that bonuses can give them bigger edge in gambling which trigger them to play more than what they should.
Bonuses in casino is not something to chase, this point of view should be in our mindset as gamblers because bonuses should be taken as side effect for our gambling activity only.
Just because the terms are clear doesn’t automatically mean that there can’t be some hidden traps, every gambler should have this understanding. The main issue could be less about the casino hiding the terms and conditions but more about how the bonus itself is designed ti influence the behavior of the players. Stuffs like wagering requirements, withdrawal restrictions or even expiry periods (which may not really be included in the terms of usage) can make the bonus look way more valuable than it really is and this isn’t whether or not everything is disclosed publicly. Sure, transparency is great and required, but everyone making use of a bonus should understand the real catch and the conditions of the bonus as these also matter just as much.

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September 16, 2026, 11:12:00 AM
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We generally view bonuses as “traps” or consider their terms impossible to meet, but from a casino’s perspective, it can sometimes make sense to give users the chance to win money out of nowhere. All of the casinos that are popular right now spent a fortune on advertising and bonus promotions before they became popular. You don’t just use these offers and forget about them right away. It’s quite likely that you’ll return to a casino that has helped you make money in some way. Casinos offer these bonuses with that in mind.
It's not a trap but freebies and since I was born freebies have always not what it seems, the bonuses idea from online casino is a good thing, but to gamblers it's not something they should sit on as a way of making money.

Since it's free I wouldn't take it that serious like something I must get, it's why I like getting rewards for deposits for slots games, I am surely going to wager and it's part of why I am on the casino anyway.

I've hardly heard that anyone hits something massive using free spins only for example, maybe it has happened in the past but I have never seen people who got that lucky with bonuses.
We can conclude that:
- Bonuses are calculated in such a way that, in theory, they cannot offer a high chance of winning
- Our colleague is correct on this point in suggesting that "special rules for playing with bonuses" apply, i.e., to put it bluntly, there may be direct manipulation of the process of playing with "free chips".
Yeah. Well, bonuses are just another way to keep you hooked into the casino. People often forget about casinos and move on, and this is where bonuses drag them back to the casino. One day, you see an email that offers you free 50 bucks. You don't want to gamble but you think - what can really go wrong in claiming these 50 bucks, wagering a bit, and withdrawing it? This is where you are entering the casino again and who knows by the time you close the site, you already deposited 500 in tilt!

This is what the bonus does to the gambler! Casinos are not doing a charity and the only reason a bonus is ever offered is because they expect the player to play more because of these bonuses and at other times, they pull the lost player back with these bonuses.

You don't play on your casino for a month and see what kind of emails you'll get Wink.



Bonuses are "pure, unobtrusive marketing" Smiley
It’s just like how people are drawn to a product through free samples, or how when you buy perfume, they give you a free sample of another scent, hoping you’ll like it and buy that one too!
But here, a bonus is practically money that you can potentially "withdraw" without investing a single penny of your own. On the other hand, there are allegations that some casinos manipulate these bonuses. And that means they plan to use such bonuses as "bait in a trap" Smiley


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September 16, 2026, 11:32:28 AM
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Bonuses are offered to attract new players and to force everyone to play again and again. If a casino offers additional bonuses, then it certainly does not take much money to promote that casino and very quickly everyone can know about that casino and the demand for casino use increases a lot. However, a person can have a big problem with taking bonuses for this. For example, when he gets a bonus, he can play extra with the bonus amount and he may become addicted to this extra play, which will not be right for them at all and addiction is not good for anyone.

Bonuses alone can not make you become adducted to gambling because you have to be a gambler already before you can make use of the bones hence you were already gambling and if you can not control yourself because of few bonuses that you received then you are the problem and not the casinos. Extra bonuses will only tempt you to gamble more and that is why casino are introducing it so as to keep you gambling.

The casinos do this because they know you can not control your greediness and you will want to take advantage of the bonuses meanwhile you are making money for the casino because you will be losing more money. Some gamblers are lucky to make money from the bonuses but the casino knows that there will be more people that will lose money because they want the bonuses than those gamblers that will make profits and this keeps the casino in business.

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Bonuses are offered to attract new players and to force everyone to play again and again. If a casino offers additional bonuses, then it certainly does not take much money to promote that casino and very quickly everyone can know about that casino and the demand for casino use increases a lot. However, a person can have a big problem with taking bonuses for this. For example, when he gets a bonus, he can play extra with the bonus amount and he may become addicted to this extra play, which will not be right for them at all and addiction is not good for anyone.

Bonuses alone can not make you become adducted to gambling because you have to be a gambler already before you can make use of the bones hence you were already gambling and if you can not control yourself because of few bonuses that you received then you are the problem and not the casinos. Extra bonuses will only tempt you to gamble more and that is why casino are introducing it so as to keep you gambling.

The casinos do this because they know you can not control your greediness and you will want to take advantage of the bonuses meanwhile you are making money for the casino because you will be losing more money. Some gamblers are lucky to make money from the bonuses but the casino knows that there will be more people that will lose money because they want the bonuses than those gamblers that will make profits and this keeps the casino in business.

Bonuses aren't about addiction. Bonuses are about promotion and marketing to build loyalty to the gaming platform. Gaming addiction is a completely different issue, and it has nothing to do with bonuses. We need to be objective when assessing the situation - that's my personal opinion.


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