My argument on why this might not be the beginning of the bull market

[Btcdeybodi]

eat your  words.  your negativity is tiring



trump is a tired old man that has shot his shot. btc will roll over him.

BTC already rolled over him during his tariffs controversy, whatever actions he does now is just to make himself relevant for people agree that he has the power to control the market. Am not gonna lie, he has the power to manipulate the market but not for a prolonged period.

This might not be a bullish signal but we should be happy that the market has shown some positivity after a long time of bearish moves. The bull market is not ready yet, we know but times like this reminds us that Bitcoin is a dependable coin. The month of August and September has rekindled and keep our hopes alive again

[Ndabagi01]

eat your  words.  your negativity is tiring

trump is a tired old man that has shot his shot. btc will roll over him.

By now he already knows that bitcoin has out power him and his powers. His powers and rules are already useless in the sight of bitcoin when it comes to act upon its normal consensus. Bitcoin still remains one of the most unpredictable and uncontrollable assets that can be fully influenced by politicians. The effects may be felt a little but it will not affect the market in the long term which makes the influxes a baseless fact to be used for long term projection of what the price of bitcoin will be.

[STT]

Time and tide wait for no man.  Its a mistake to focus on individuals especially when trying to describe or call a trend, its the masses that make a trend strong not even Musk is something I expect  to work out in favor beyond the short term.

86413 we got as a lower high, it needs to be beaten on the 4hr bars and and ideally daily close in order to show strength short term.  Its possible we do have a pullback here but I often find that is necessary and helpful towards creating support in BTC price action.

[aoluain]

With everything that is going on the global geopolitical arena its really difficult to call where
or in what direction the market is going to go tomorrow or next week really.

I was initially surprised on first thought to see the market move up to $86k but I realised quickly
that what is happening in Russia, Ukraine, Iran and the middle east and the other players in the
wider field plays apart, and even at this stage what Trump says is carrying weight in terms of
market reactions. You would think at this stage he would be totally ignored?

[9ja Amaka]

bbc.reporter I guess you've seen the changes that occurred. The intention of creating this thread was because of the previous outflows in August. Suddenly, in September, institutions became more optimistic about buying. The current surge in price is due to the inflow of institutional demand. Added to the U.S. Bitcoin reserve. Statistics show that the majority of U.S. citizens have been putting a lot of money into Bitcoin recently.

[bbc.reporter]

eat your  words.  your negativity is tiring



trump is a tired old man that has shot his shot. btc will roll over him.

What is wrong with speculating on what might be the next occurrence on the price of bitcoin? Also, why are you angry if the speculation is bearish? Always being bullish even if there is bearishness in the market is not normal heheheheh.

You do not have to be something similar to an grump old, lonely man who will get angry if he heres other people talking.

[PERtua]

eat your  words.  your negativity is tiring

trump is a tired old man that has shot his shot. btc will roll over him.

By now he already knows that bitcoin has out power him and his powers. His powers and rules are already useless in the sight of bitcoin when it comes to act upon its normal consensus. Bitcoin still remains one of the most unpredictable and uncontrollable assets that can be fully influenced by politicians. The effects may be felt a little but it will not affect the market in the long term which makes the influxes a baseless fact to be used for long term projection of what the price of bitcoin will be.

I think that politicians can't directly influence Bitcoin's consensus, but not as far as saying useless. Volatile short-term swings in the market are caused by government decisions and liquidity, regulation and investor sentiment. The key difference is that it is influencing the price instead of controlling Bitcoin. A politician might spark a rally or sell-off, but to keep the trend going would take a lot more from the market. For this reason, I wouldn't put all my eggs in any one political person's basket for the overall trend of Bitcoin.

[Emitdama]

By now he already knows that bitcoin has out power him and his powers. His powers and rules are already useless in the sight of bitcoin when it comes to act upon its normal consensus. Bitcoin still remains one of the most unpredictable and uncontrollable assets that can be fully influenced by politicians. The effects may be felt a little but it will not affect the market in the long term which makes the influxes a baseless fact to be used for long term projection of what the price of bitcoin will be.

I think that politicians can't directly influence Bitcoin's consensus, but not as far as saying useless. Volatile short-term swings in the market are caused by government decisions and liquidity, regulation and investor sentiment. The key difference is that it is influencing the price instead of controlling Bitcoin. A politician might spark a rally or sell-off, but to keep the trend going would take a lot more from the market. For this reason, I wouldn't put all my eggs in any one political person's basket for the overall trend of Bitcoin.

Even most of the market would react to any such politician's influence which I think drives the price further. Bitcoins have a huge market cap and can't really be manipulated by any of such politicians or any single influencer. It would take masses to change the direction. Donald is one of the strongest influencer when it comes to cryptocurrencies and there would be people sitting out there watching his every move so they can get a chance to make profits accordingly.

That makes a lot of people follow Donald's advice which keeps the market moving in the current direction. This does not last forever and eventually, people will come to their conscious and think rationally before trusting any such influencer.

[letteredhub]

Since Trump entered office he has been manipulating the price of bitcoin with different news and that's why I don't want to believe that the bull run has started because Trump can still come out tomorrow with a negative news that will affect bitcoin price and make the price dip drastically back to $63k or below. No one can predict the market.

Peo needs to wise up and smell the coffee that Donald Trump is playing chess game with the cryptocurrency market and we're like the pawn in that game. A lot of market manipulation here and there and his bags and that of his associates grows bigger from the panic selling and the FOMO buying by retail and all weak hand investors as the case may be. The institutional flows understands this tricks  and that why they're always ahead  at every market movement direction.

[Jerrycrypto2024]

Since Trump entered office he has been manipulating the price of bitcoin with different news and that's why I don't want to believe that the bull run has started because Trump can still come out tomorrow with a negative news that will affect bitcoin price and make the price dip drastically back to $63k or below. No one can predict the market.

Peo needs to wise up and smell the coffee that Donald Trump is playing chess game with the cryptocurrency market and we're like the pawn in that game. A lot of market manipulation here and there and his bags and that of his associates grows bigger from the panic selling and the FOMO buying by retail and all weak hand investors as the case may be. The institutional flows understands this tricks  and that why they're always ahead  at every market movement direction.

Definitely he have target, I could assume he wants to use this means to accumulate and gather all his target, another opportunity of been the president for ever is never there, I  beleive he played Chess with the market many expectations on him since he take over office is not the current position of Bitcoin, the market generally have not witness a strong bull where it cut across all sphere of the market touching the altcoin,and others to mentioned, many are in FOMO, since August the market has been battling to cross 89-90 which have not even touch the last ATH which was formally touched as he entered the second term in office.

[henmark]

eat your  words.  your negativity is tiring

trump is a tired old man that has shot his shot. btc will roll over him.

What is wrong with speculating on what might be the next occurrence on the price of bitcoin? Also, why are you angry if the speculation is bearish? Always being bullish even if there is bearishness in the market is not normal heheheheh.

You do not have to be something similar to an grump old, lonely man who will get angry if he heres other people talking.

This reminds me of a few of my friends. They are focused so much on the positive side that they mostly ignore the negative out-comings. It is not always that bitcoin will continue going up. There would definitely be some downside because that is the way these markets work. Expecting a bearish season is not a bad thing because if we consider historical data, a bearish trend just triggers the next ATH. Markets actually test patience and rewards only those who stay true.

I've been expecting a bearish trend for quite sometime now. In fact, I thought we already entered the bearish cycle when bitcoins were not able to cross $90k. The bearish cycle might be slow this time but we already might be in the bearish trend.

[bangjoe]

Since Trump entered office he has been manipulating the price of bitcoin with different news and that's why I don't want to believe that the bull run has started because Trump can still come out tomorrow with a negative news that will affect bitcoin price and make the price dip drastically back to $63k or below. No one can predict the market.

Peo needs to wise up and smell the coffee that Donald Trump is playing chess game with the cryptocurrency market and we're like the pawn in that game. A lot of market manipulation here and there and his bags and that of his associates grows bigger from the panic selling and the FOMO buying by retail and all weak hand investors as the case may be. The institutional flows understands this tricks  and that why they're always ahead  at every market movement direction.

His words are enough to influence the market and he sells the signal, last I know someone needs to subscribe to his X account to see what he is talking about, and not to forget he enriches his family, his son as a trader and it is easy for the Trump family to play the global markets.
It should be noted that the flow of institutional money is indeed quite large against bitcoin price movements and macro sentiment is increasingly important in price movements, the power of narrative becomes a great value from superpower leaders who have global market involvement, from tariffs, wars, actually just a game to fill the pockets of a few people.

[letteredhub]

Since Trump entered office he has been manipulating the price of bitcoin with different news and that's why I don't want to believe that the bull run has started because Trump can still come out tomorrow with a negative news that will affect bitcoin price and make the price dip drastically back to $63k or below. No one can predict the market.

Peo needs to wise up and smell the coffee that Donald Trump is playing chess game with the cryptocurrency market and we're like the pawn in that game. A lot of market manipulation here and there and his bags and that of his associates grows bigger from the panic selling and the FOMO buying by retail and all weak hand investors as the case may be. The institutional flows understands this tricks  and that why they're always ahead  at every market movement direction.

His words are enough to influence the market and he sells the signal, last I know someone needs to subscribe to his X account to see what he is talking about, and not to forget he enriches his family, his son as a trader and it is easy for the Trump family to play the global markets.
It should be noted that the flow of institutional money is indeed quite large against bitcoin price movements and macro sentiment is increasingly important in price movements, the power of narrative becomes a great value from superpower leaders who have global market involvement, from tariffs, wars, actually just a game to fill the pockets of a few people.

Anyone being the president of the US would definitely get the global attention and influence as Trump is. He's actually using the influence of the US economy which is one of the biggest economies in the world and bitcoin is largely held/invested in by many US citizens and institutions. The trajectory with which bitcoin price has taken off with in this cycle tends to be unusual and it's not just about Trump influence but on a large scale the development of macro conditions.

[savetheFORUM]

Just touching $75k or $82k as of now does not necessarily mean we are entering the bull markets. I would not call the markets bullish at least until bitcoin cross $90k and experiences huge buy walls. That is when I know the bulls are getting stronger. Any such fundamental news especially coming from Donald would surely affect the price but I feel like that would only be for a smaller duration. The price would eventually correct and continue the same trend.

I would not look at the fundamentals when identifying the bull run. Technicals give me a much stronger look about the current market trend so I would only assume we are entering bull market if technicals show me otherwise.

[DiMarxist]

Just touching $75k or $82k as of now does not necessarily mean we are entering the bull markets. I would not call the markets bullish at least until bitcoin cross $90k and experiences huge buy walls. That is when I know the bulls are getting stronger. Any such fundamental news especially coming from Donald would surely affect the price but I feel like that would only be for a smaller duration. The price would eventually correct and continue the same trend.

Yes we can't at this point say that Bitcoin Bitcoin is on a Bullish trend because of the current movement in the price of Bitcoin as we are seeing, Bitcoin price appriciate for the first after a long time. Bitcoin as we know is a volatile asset so these types of things are expected, so we should be very careful about our projection when it comes to Bitcoin price.

But all these are speculation, so even those who are speculating about Bitcoin and a possible Bull run is not out of order. Because the price of Bitcoin has been down and has not gotten to this current market range since, so a possible Bull run might just be on the way.

[348Judah]

I don't expect anyone to give any analysis explaining why the bull citizen should start right now; this is just market performance, and if we are able to discover the market is going bullish, it does not mean it is already preparing for the bull run season. These are part of the ways some investors make mistakes, thinking that the little surge they experience in the market rise will eventually lead to the boom of the entire market for a bull run.

[bbc.reporter]

@everyone. It appears that there are market observers are noticing that the AI bubble might be beginning to pop and it is starting on the stock market of South Korea where there are companies there who are manufacturing hardware for AI companies and datacenter.

In any case, everyone should begin following the stock of the company Taiwan Semiconductors. If this will have a big dump occurrence, we can slowly become certain that the bubble pop is spreading across Asia and this might also slowly begin in America.

What does everyone speculate this will do to bitcoin and the cryptospace? Will this pump?

[GeorgeJohn]

I don't expect anyone to give any analysis explaining why the bull citizen should start right now; this is just market performance, and if we are able to discover the market is going bullish, it does not mean it is already preparing for the bull run season. These are part of the ways some investors make mistakes, thinking that the little surge they experience in the market rise will eventually lead to the boom of the entire market for a bull run.

Lolz..This point of your's has mislead many people unknowingly to them..Actually when the market experience little surge, all the mindset of crypto holders and new investors always goes to bullrun, and that's one of the factors that lure most of them who failed to make a research analysis before investing into cryptocurrencies to experience loses...Basically a little increment in the market attracts new investors, both people who is willing to invest and people who are not willing to invest, will be ready to invest in order to benefit from bullrun..

[M47AK16]

@everyone. It appears that there are market observers are noticing that the AI bubble might be beginning to pop and it is starting on the stock market of South Korea where there are companies there who are manufacturing hardware for AI companies and datacenter.

In any case, everyone should begin following the stock of the company Taiwan Semiconductors. If this will have a big dump occurrence, we can slowly become certain that the bubble pop is spreading across Asia and this might also slowly begin in America.

What does everyone speculate this will do to bitcoin and the cryptospace? Will this pump?

To be fair when the economy is doing badly, that means Bitcoin does better. And considering over a trillion went into these companies, that means if they stop and things slow down, then the economy will slow down and that means bitcoin will go up.

And timing is right as well: 2028 will be the year for halving, and 2029 will be a bull year probably because we always hit a new all time high one year after the halving. That means AI has a few years left; in a 2-3 year period, we could see it start to get lower and lower investment, and that could result in Bitcoin skyrocketing even higher. Doesn't mean it is a guaranteed hit, but we should be gathering as much bitcoin as we possibly could these days, for the possibility of a huge return in a couple of years.

[bbc.reporter]

@everyone. It appears that there are market observers are noticing that the AI bubble might be beginning to pop and it is starting on the stock market of South Korea where there are companies there who are manufacturing hardware for AI companies and datacenter.

In any case, everyone should begin following the stock of the company Taiwan Semiconductors. If this will have a big dump occurrence, we can slowly become certain that the bubble pop is spreading across Asia and this might also slowly begin in America.

What does everyone speculate this will do to bitcoin and the cryptospace? Will this pump?

To be fair when the economy is doing badly, that means Bitcoin does better.

I am sorry, however, I very much disagree! If the economy is doing badly, people will want to save much their dollars and avoid speculative investments similar to bitcoin. The stock market also goes down during these economic recessions and very much certainly also the cryptospace market.