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August 30, 2026, 04:29:50 PM
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The USA would never do anything without expecting a return. I have spent time over there, then was in Europe again. Does the presidency make a difference? I think no, it doesn't. Trump is an ultra expression of what is happening anyway.
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You have very wrong conclusions here, and they both come from the same error: the US has changed drastically under Trump. Things like good relations with Canada and our other (former) allies was a bipartisan sentiment for the last 80 years in the US. Trump has completely transformed his party, and that party is no longer the old "pro business" party it once was, it's now just whatever Trump says it is on any given day.

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The USA would never do anything without expecting a return.

Trump's trade wars hurt the US, period. There is no economist, left, right or center, who doesn't believe this. The only ones you will hear defending Trump's madness are people under Trump's direct control, i.e. elected Republicans, party operatives and his captured media like Fox News (although the latter often gets out of line because these actions are so indefensible).

Trump is doing this to Canada because Canada refused to send their young men to Iran to fight and die in Trump's idiotic war there. And he's doing this because morons will believe his lies when he says that Canada has been "ripping us off" because of some narrow-focused precepts about prices. Trump and his party tells their voters that the US can use its military dominance to extort economic concessions from its trading partners. Every US president before Trump knew that this was at best a short term strategy which will be devastating to the US in the longer run as every country will be forced to decouple with the US and couple with China instead.

If you think of the US as a corporation with a large debt load, you base the risk of that debt on the company's ability to profit in the future and pay off its loans.

Before Trump, the US led the world in commerce and the safety of building on our platforms was unquestioned. A European company could build everything on MS Windows or Caterpillar tractors and not fear that the rules would be changed on them in the future. Under Trump, they can no longer make that assumption, and instead need to plan for the possibility that the US president will double or triple their costs in the future, or even cut them off entirely--thus ending their business--if their country doesn't send their soldiers to die in a US-led war. (Note how Trump's threats, well, trump any kind of economic concerns! A country will do a lot for economics, but their voters will not accept being turned into fodder).

Now look at the US "corporation" in that context: Trump just drastically reduced our future ability to profit because countries can no longer trust US products. In short, every country in the world now needs to treat the US the way the US has treated China. The most valuable companies in the USA are platform companies like the FAANGS, Microsoft, etc. This is where almost all of our growth comes from. All of these companies are where they are because every company in the world can trust these companies for the long term. Trump and his party have destroyed that trust.

This is a new version of the USA. Throw out all of your old assumptions, such as, "The USA would never do anything without expecting a return". That's simply not true anymore, and it's likely to remain the case for a while if not forever. (Only a political annihilation of the Republicans--and not just an ordinary loss--will signal to the world that this new mode of US policy is truly over. It's easy to see them lose in the next few cycles, but there's currently no evidence they will get totally eliminated like Mussolini was in Italy or something like that).

The reality is that Trump's policy (which is really just whim) is the "new normal" for the USA, and that's new policy is going be very, very bad for business, and thus very bad for US GDP growth, which is very bad for the US ability to pay down its debt.

The only question is, how long before the world's bond traders fully get this? When they do, the US could see the price of its debt skyrocket, and it doesn't need to go up much in order to cause major disruption to the US economic system.  (Whether voters will blame Republicans for this is another story: it will in fact have been their fault, but voters will just vote out whatever party happens to be in power when the disaster comes).




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August 30, 2026, 06:44:49 PM
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Trump has a chance to destroy bitcoin
This would be the kind of test the community needs to figure out if all the resilience claims are warranted.
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August 31, 2026, 12:28:48 PM
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the US has changed drastically under Trump.
Trump has completely transformed his party, and that party is no longer the old "pro business" party it once was, it's now just whatever Trump says it is on any given day.
Trump's trade wars hurt the US, period.
Before Trump, the US led the world in commerce and the safety of building on our platforms was unquestioned.
Trump just drastically reduced our future ability to profit because countries can no longer trust US products.
(Only a political annihilation of the Republicans--and not just an ordinary loss--will signal to the world that this new mode of US policy is truly over.
The reality is that Trump's policy (which is really just whim) is the "new normal" for the USA,
(Whether voters will blame Republicans for this is another story: it will in fact have been their fault, but voters will just vote out whatever party happens to be in power when the disaster comes).
I think it was a year ago when I first mentioned The New Wave of American Awakening. Even though that has been growing in the America, but it still is not widespread. As we can clearly see, there are still a lot of them who believe in this corrupt and oppressive system.

So let me take this opportunity to introduce everyone to what I like to call Neo Dictatorship and the plague that has infected the world for decades called democracy specially the two party version of it....

With corrupt systems, it has always been all about regime preservation, in Neo Dictatorship (such as United States of America) they've found the bugs in the Traditional Dictatorships (such Saudi usurped Arabia) and fixed them so that they can remain in power. That's what makes Neo Dictatorship aka Democracies so much worse than Traditional ones because they lull people into docility and submission by giving them false hope like we can see in this quote.

The biggest bug to fix was Who to blame and who to revolt against
In traditional dictatorship, the problem can be pinned on one person: the dictator (and his circle). For example in the Saudi usurped Arabia, you can blame the dictator Bin Salman and generally the al-Saud tribe/usurpers of Arabia who have changed the country's name to their tribe's name! That's the face. That's what you can put your finger on, and because of that when people have had enough, they'll revolt against that dictator and overthrow him and his circle.

In Neo Dictatorship (aka Democracy) they solved that problem by first giving people the illusion of choice but hiding the true dictators behind the scene and putting some sock-puppets in the front. The dictators are the oligarchs, the deep state, the Zionists, the Epstein Class, or whatever you want to call them but they are there in the shadows. Those who have the power and control the 99% of the wealth. Control the important policies. Those who would destroy your life if you dare speak against them (eg. the college students who lost everything just because they dared say "don't murder children in Gaza").

For that purpose, they'll give you two sides and then heavily polarize the society to fiercely support one side against the other. When side A is in office, they'll blame every problem either on the previous incumbent or simply blame the other party saying "they're not letting us make things better". Meanwhile side B is constantly saying that all the problems exist because side A is in office and it wouldn't be like this if we were in power.
As I said the system is designed for "regime preservation" so it has to give people hope, therefore the "presidency" has an expiration date as if a president is supposed to stop being able to work after 4 years!
So by that time the oppressed and indoctrinated people vote for side B to rent the "seat of power" thinking that's gonna solve the problem but then they see the same exact thing repeated! Side B now says all the problems are the result of previous incumbent's decisions and we can't fix anything because side A doesn't let us. All the while nothing is being solved and the "regime" is not only preserved but the dictators in shadows are becoming wealthier and more powerful while people suffer more and more every day Undecided

They'll give you a "face" so that you can blame for everything too. The people are allowed to hate that sock-puppet and direct all their anger toward him. This is exactly why over the past decade the US regime allowed installation of two of the worst creatures in America in the Oval Office, a senile old man who was an international joke followed by another convicted felon and a known pedophile. Now you say things are bad because the "face" of the regime is bad not because the regime itself is. AKA what you are doing is "regime preservation", exactly what the corrupt regime in power wanted.

Now read what I quoted once more....
All the blame is directed at the pedophile while the corrupt regime is not even mentioned. At the end of the day and in worse case scenario, they'll impeach the pedophile and he goes and lives in his multi-billion empire alongside the regime that remained intact laughing at the morons who voted for him and those who impeached him alike. Then the regime installs the nest moron as the face for the gullible people to hate.


Now review the US policies of the past decade or so with that new look. You'll realize that what's happening today is a continuation of the regime's policies that were set in motion a long time ago. For example the Tariff War and the crazy aggression toward all the US allies clients has been in motion for at least 2009 with the sock-puppet called Obama. The pedophile and the senile Joe and then the pedophile followed that same exact trend of step-by-step escalation.

The rest of the plans the pedophile is executing these days aren't even new. It's part of the regime's doctrine that was formed back in 1823 saying that the usurping US regime should keep its focus on the "Western Hemisphere"... Canada. Greenland. Venezuela. Cuba. Brazil.... are the names you hear the most because of that not because the incumbent moron is different from others. In other words if the US regime had installed anybody else in office, they would also take the same exact steps. The only thing different would be their level of clowning (less twitter nonsense). Grin

Take the terrorist attacks US regime has been carrying out in West Asia. Those are plans that were in motion for at least 20 years (some 47 years). For example some of the US sleeper terrorist cells Iran dismantled were established 20 years ago and some of their terrorist operatives that were eliminated were in training for 10-20 years.
Or for example the new wave of terrorist attacks US regime carried out against Yemen started when senile Joe was in office and when the pedophile was installed he tried to repeat that. In fact USS Dwight D. Eisenhower was mostly destroyed during that time and if other US carriers hadn't been so significantly damaged this year, they would have decommissioned it instead of having to pull it out of repairs and forcing this half destroyed carrier into operation again last month.

I can keep going... everything the regime has done is a long term plan. Venezuela is another example that was under decades of economic terrorism until recently they kidnapped its legitimate president and installed a sock-puppet to steal their oil once again...

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August 31, 2026, 01:25:12 PM
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Meanwhile they will need more to get impeach trump, this is not significant enough to get that done, worst has happened and they couldn't still do shii. From iran to venezuela to green land, nothing happened and now those are passed. So sadly just electricity wouldn't make that happen
What I can't understand is how people always make excuses for him. No matter what he does, no matter the evidence that is bought up against him, no matter the points you bring, people who support him will still make excuses for him. I don't think any other US president has ever had that privilege. All he has to do is blame someone else like China, democrats, immigrants, Canada or any other country, and he would be exonerated of everything. I can't imagine Barack Obama getting away with half the things Trump gets away with. I don't think he would be impeached even after the midterms. I don't see them getting the required number of votes needed to impeach him.

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August 31, 2026, 09:29:33 PM
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Well,  we welcome diplomats sorting out their national issues, but Bitcoin doesn't really depend on that to thrive. It was not part of the algorithms or factors that drive the price.  
Bitcoin price would move contrary to the direction people with contrary ideology/views would want it to move. And ofcourse, we are aware of attempts by certain people to game the algo in their favor by doing, saying or writing things they don't really mean, which they hope will get the price to move according to their desired directions. But even intentions are well known so that price moves against them.

However, when it becomes necessary, whether diplomatic issues are resolved or not,  the price will shoot up, and that will certainly discredit all the things people ascribe the price movements to.

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