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August 28, 2026, 06:37:13 PM
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The company Quantum Blockchain Technologies was recently allowed a Patent on what they term ASIC Ulra Boost. The case file can be found here,

https://globaldossier.uspto.gov/details/US/18696073/A/129692

Marketing here,

https://quantumblockchaintechnologies.co.uk/patents-ip
https://quantumblockchaintechnologies.co.uk/images/QBT_ASIC_Ultra_Boost_Overview.pdf
https://quantumblockchaintechnologies.co.uk/images/ASIC_Ultra_Boost_White_Paper.pdf
https://quantumblockchaintechnologies.co.uk/images/AUB-Patent-Application-Abstract.pdf

Today they posted the following message to X,

https://x.com/QBTOfficial256/status/2093359908485730552

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QBT is now planning to begin behavioural checks on commercial ASICs, screening for signatures consistent with ASIC Ultra Boost - to be carried out in our Milan lab. A black-box approach: no de-capping, just controlled inputs and observed response. A lead, not proof.

The graphic below the post includes the following words,

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Planned not yet performed - any result would be circumstantial. This kind of analysis cannot see inside the silicon and any real conclusion would need further professional legal and technical review to mean anything.

This is a blatant threat to any ASIC manufacturer that should they find evidence that you are using the methods described in their allowed patent, it still needs to be granted which will happen 4 to 6 weeks after the allowance fee was paid, they will be coming after you.

In effect they seem to wish to become Patent Trolls.

Let me start by saying I am NOT a Patent Lawyer... However,

For any Patent Lawyers working for such ASIC manufacturers I would recommend that you follow the history of this application through to grant on the following pages,

https://www.search-for-intellectual-property.service.gov.uk/GB2113962.1
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP22793447&lng=en&tab=doclist
https://globaldossier.uspto.gov/details/US/18696073/A/129692

In particular pay attention to the prosecution history for the US filing.

It is very important that you understand that as originally filed the applicants claimed many optimization methods that were ultimately disallowed by the US Patent Examiner, non final rejection and final rejection, as a result of prior art.

The US Patent Examiner insisted that the independent claims were too broad in that they would have protected this material and forced them to move the one piece of allowable material into the independent claims whilst allowing them to retain the disallowed material as dependent claims under this.

Hopefully this link will get you a copy of the Notice of Allowance that includes those claims and the wording insisted upon by the Examiner. The US website appears to use session cookies.

https://register.epo.org/ipApplication?documentId=MRWFN840X247X24&number=US.202218696073.A&patentScope=false

It is my belief that at least 50%, likely much more, of what is in the dependent claims can be implemented without infringing the restraints placed on the Independent claims and as such you will have a defensible case if you do so and also if you already have included these optimizations in your present designs.

It is my supposition that QBT have either been unable to generate any interest for their, now limited, IP amongst ASIC Manufacturers and this recent X post is PR show for prospective investors in the company.

If you are an ASIC Manufacturer then please give this message serious consideration and at least be prepared for this threat and better still work in collaboration with the community to publicize and act against it.

Give them the publicity they crave.
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August 28, 2026, 09:05:18 PM
Last edit: August 31, 2026, 06:45:34 PM by NotFuzzyWarm
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QBT just refuses to give up don't they?
Up until last year they were trying to get the same thing patented in the UK & the EU and failed miserably mainly because their ideas are pure garbage. The only reason they succeeded in the US is because a US patent can be just an idea - it does not have to actually work, eg. Patents on perpetual motion and 'Free energy' ideas. (It was only fairly recently that the USPTO finally stopped accepting applications on those) The UK & EU denied their patents because there is no demonstrable evidence they could ever work because the mathematics behind sha256 has time and again proven it cannot.

What they have patented is nothing more than an Oracle - something that is analyzing previously mined blocks to try and find a pattern in them then apply its findings to create headers that have better chance of resulting in a found block. It is pure marketing fluff aimed at:
A. Generating more investor attention so they can scam more folks out of their money
B. The hope that miner mfgrs will capitulate and pay them to avoid the cost of (baseless) lawsuits

Problem is, THERE ARE NO PATTERNS IN MINING SHA256 COINS! Period. Unless there is a flaw in the software that generates the mining headers, it is an entirely random process. This has been cryptography proven countless times by many different researchers. That is why miners try every single possible hash when trying to solve a block.

Last year they tried to recruit both -ck and Kano who wrote cgminer to help them with this project because they could not figure out how to plug their Oracle results into cgminer to test their ideas. Both told them to fuck off because:
1. If they cannot figure out a well-documented program then they are idiots
2. There are NO PATTERNS that could be used

Because of this, no miner mfgr is using anything resembling an Oracle and never will. Ergo they cannot be successfully sued. That doesn't mean that QBT won't try though.

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August 29, 2026, 11:07:54 AM
Last edit: August 29, 2026, 11:27:36 AM by BobsSocks
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Hello again and thank you for the reply.

A couple of things to notice.

Whilst I understand that the US patent office has a bit of a reputation for allowing any old rubbish through that might not apply in this particular instance. Also this application is not for QBT's fantasy AI pattern spotting magic beans. It is a legitimate range of hardware optimizations based on real engineering.

Perhaps you might invite -ck and Kano to take a look.

In terms of the patent process. As you have spotted from the dossiers I have linked to the subject matter is being prosecuted in various jurisdictions. In this case under what is known as the PCT, Patent Cooperation Treaty route. You apply first in your country of Origin, for QBT this is the UK. This gives you a priority date.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_Cooperation_Treaty

Within 12 months of that filing date you are allowed to transfer your application to the PCT route which allows you gain protection for your idea across the World in countries that are part of the PCT. This includes the US. Yes QBT are having problems in the EU under EPO, European Patent Organization, but they are the same as those they had in the US which, after a bit of back and forth, was eventually granted.

It is likely that this will ultimately happen under EPO and elsewhere.  They will gain similar but limited of protection and be able to make a pain of themselves in other countries.

Again these are valid hardware optimizations similar in some ways to what was done with Covert and Overt ASICBoost as invented by Timo Hanke.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1604.00575

This time the optimizations have been developed by Rahul Naik, now working for QBT, previously a student of Nicolas Courtois at the LSE, London School of Economics, as an extension of that work,

https://www.academia.edu/82035678/Optimizing_SHA256_in_Bitcoin_Mining

Unfortunately a lot of this stuff is behind paywalls and logins and I cannot attach files here. On the other hand this stuff might bend your head. However as I suggest the work is legitimate rather than being a pie in the sky punt on SHA256 having patterns.

If you refer to the original specification,

https://register.epo.org/ipApplication?documentId=M013HDNGWFYBX99&number=US.202218696073.A&patentScope=false

then you will find a number of sections starting on Page 25) of 46) of the PDF dealing with each SHA256 block in the Bitcoin Mining Implementation. SHA256(0), SHA256(1) and SHA256(2), these include tables for the Message Scheduler Calculations that are classified in the right hand column as being variously Incremented, Stored, Partially Stored, Always Zero or Not Optimized. This is where the savings claimed lie.

There are summary tables at the end of each where the gate savings and/or operation savings are listed.

As initially presented QBT tried to claim that all of these were novel and therefore subject to protection. The US examiner determined that this was not the case based on prior art including the thesis written by Rahul Naik and placed a restriction on what was allowed in the independent claims.  

The basis of that restriction can be found in the text beginning on Page 21) of 46) which describes Figure 3) in the drawings. It applies to W[t] for t = 16 to 63 of the 64 rounds in SHA256.

It is my conjecture that many of the optimizations proposed, at least in the dependent claims, will not be fully protected and might be implemented avoiding the restrictions in the independent claims. Furthermore it is possible that others have already implemented these optimizations but have kept them as 'secrets'.

In such cases there is the distinct possibility that QBT is going to Patent Troll them as hinted at by their post on X,

https://x.com/QBTOfficial256/status/2093359908485730552

"That's a nice ASIC you've got there. We think you may be violating our granted Intellectual Property. Perhaps you would like to pay us some money?"

Either those challenged will fold and pay the ransom or they will be forced to litigate. I am suggesting that they should act collectively and be preemptive. After all QBT are firing the warning shots but according to me they are either blanks or are a fair few grains short of a full charge.

It is at least in part a bluff and I hope that others with more knowledge than myself will challenge that bluff and make that challenge publicly known.

To date QBT have survived despite achieving nothing by regular placings on the AIM market that by and large have been supported by naive Private Investors. They are due another placing and I have no doubt that they will be using this granted patent and a pretense that it has more value than deeper inspection would suggest to access such investment.
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August 31, 2026, 09:40:13 AM
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It is my supposition that QBT have either been unable to generate any interest for their, now limited, IP amongst ASIC Manufacturers and this recent X post is PR show for prospective investors in the company.

I don't remember hearing this company before, but it's not that surprising.

Quote from: quantumblockchaintechnologies.co.uk
This has been achieved by using advanced AI, Quantum Computing, Cryptography and functional optimisation, combined with novel FPGA and ASIC designed techniques.

Their homepage alone scream buzzword, so any investor who have some technical knowledge or hire expert to review their marketing would be cautious or even consider it as red flag.

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August 31, 2026, 10:02:58 AM
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Bitcoin miner manufacturers need to sue them. Because you can't simply patent something and then claim your technology applies to every single type of accelerated hardware using a specific circuit design, especially when people have been designing miners longer than their company's existence.

If they sue them and win, they might go away.

 
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August 31, 2026, 10:51:25 AM
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Bitcoin miner manufacturers need to sue them. Because you can't simply patent something and then claim your technology applies to every single type of accelerated hardware using a specific circuit design, especially when people have been designing miners longer than their company's existence.

If they sue them and win, they might go away.

COPA (Crypto Open Patent Alliance) may have some interest to stop this QBT company, since it's one of thing they aim to stop or prevent in first place. But i don't know if it's still active, since their most article posted on late 2024 (shortly after they won against craig wright).

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Would this company have enough sway over the authorities to convince customs to intercept packaged with parts just like Apple does over supposed pattents? THIS could be catastrophic. But given that manufacture of ASICs is still most predominantly done in china, even for companies doing their research in the west... It probably won't matter.

Of course we don't really know who's behind this shady company and how far they're willing to take things. The potential profit if they convince US authorities to enforce pattents could be huge. But the cost to get there are also huge. So far it doesn't seem so serious.

Edit: to add, package interception and even any extent of pattents trolling would make the US lose it's edge on mining. So I highly doubt they'd allow this to pass. Especially given the close sectoral proximity to AI chips which could create some precedent. Imagine a random ass comlany being granted a pattent on AI chips and trying to clog the whole data center arms race through the courts just in an attempt to extract some money. This would be very bad for business.


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September 01, 2026, 03:41:32 PM
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For the moment I am assuming, hoping, that the messaging by the company on X is PR bluster to keep their investors happy and extract more keep the lights on cash. The other option might be that they are looking, bluffing, for some sort of FRAND agreement...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_and_non-discriminatory_licensing

However as you suggest the prosecution of such Patents can result in a request to ban import of impinging product into the country in which the Patent is granted and in force.

I am not certain whether that applies during the prosecution of such a case if QBT were to make such a challenge but I guess that there is the possibility that if a company such as Bitmain has included optimizations in their ASICs that impinge on the Patent as granted then import or sales restrictions could be a possibility.

Similar might also apply to the sale of any rigs that make use of 'salvaged' Bitmain ASICs as in hobbyist implementations like BitAXE.

Oh. The 'Shady' Company is listed on the AIM market in the UK and registered at Companies House,

https://www.londonstockexchange.com/stock/QBT/quantum-blockchain-technologies-plc/company-page
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03926192

They have also attended Bitcoin Park meetings and given a presentation at NEMS25,

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nems25-reality-or-science-fiction-a-future-of/id1646515985?i=1000699494440

As part of that talk this, and other, patent applications were mentioned.
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It's notoriously easy to register a company in the UK. Even listing on an alternative stock market isn't that impressive. There's little oversight for what companies listed there do.
Their primary expectation for income seems to be purchasing some debt for pennies on the dollar and pursuing it in Italian courts. Likely or not to receive anything nobody outside a hyper specific circle would know.

Even this line of business, from their previous market of interest before becoming a "Blockchain company", is indeed shady. Debt management and trading isn't the most reputable line of business. So these people do indeed have some experience stretching the authority of courts to their benefit.

At least this shows that they might indeed try to do something weird. I'm just speculating that in the market most notorious for the government strong arming companies over pattents, the US, current climate wouldn't allow that much leeway for a company to troll all these corporations involved with mining. In other countries pattent enforcement is miniscule so I wouldn't expect them even trying.


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