Passing KYC verification upfront would have solved this

[Somegory]

Let's be honest.

Casinos are getting away with people not been able to pass their KYC information after they won some money.
It's like some of them are intentionally using this against gamblers.

You won't know how friendly your favourite online casino is until you won some good amount of money.
Someone I knew had the same experience recently and it got me wondering why..

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

[eisen33]

Let's be honest.

Casinos are getting away with people not been able to pass their KYC information after they won some money.
It's like some of them are intentionally using this against gamblers.

You won't know how friendly your favourite online casino is until you won some good amount of money.
Someone I knew had the same experience recently and it got me wondering why..

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

Why did you assume that the casino doesn’t allow you to complete verification from the very beginning? I think that if you want to, you can contact their support right after registering, and they will give you the option to complete the KYC. The point is rather that some casinos allow you to play without KYC, but if you win a large amount, the casino will almost certainly require you to complete KYC.

[Ruttoshi]

Who told you that KYC casinos don't allow you pass through KYC verification before gambling. Gamblers are the ones in a rush to deposit their money and start gambling. They're the ones who ignore to submit their documents for KYC verification. Some casinos even go as far as making it mandatory to pass through KYC before your first withdrawal.

You can register with a casino and do your KYC verification immediately, they wouldn't stop you from it. If you're using a KYC casino and you haven't done your KYC verification it's better you do it now and don't wait till you win big. Always use a reputable casino for your gambling activities.

[Charles-Tim]

On Stake, since KYC become mandatory, you have to register and pass verification before you can be able to deposit crypto or fiat into your gambling account on the gambling site. I like the site for that, but not all gambling sites will be KYC. I have used a gambling sites before that are not KYC gambling sites, I was able to withdraw without any issues, but anything can happen because they are centralized.

[TopTort777]

Right. Nearly every reputed casino has verification section in user account. After registration, anyone can start with uploading documents instead of uploading money However, I dont know where all that would lead in the end. That might now save gambler from passing verification again or casino asking to provide additional information. Passing verification in advance is not a lifebuoy from troubles gambler might get in with his gameplay.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?

That's just a matter of time. Throughout the EU, if you sign up for a casino, you first have to complete the full KYC process before you can deposit or bet anything. It will take some time with cryptocurrency casinos, but I'm sure it will eventually become the norm there as well.

It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

Yes, it looks like it but we can't be sure that all casinos act in bad faith in this regard.

[swogerino]

Let's be honest.

Casinos are getting away with people not been able to pass their KYC information after they won some money.
It's like some of them are intentionally using this against gamblers.

You won't know how friendly your favourite online casino is until you won some good amount of money.
Someone I knew had the same experience recently and it got me wondering why..

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

The casinos doing that would be stupid in losing an overall losing customer. Sure one time we may win big yet the casino knows if restricting withdrawal with any excuse even KYC would be losing money to them over the long run. I have tested big casinos with just phone and email verification and they have let my withdrawal pass through even the amount maybe needed KYC. Why they have done so you may say, well exactly because I had many losing deposits before and they knew if they restricted me then it would be game over for many upcoming deposits.

[MArsland]

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

This does not mean automatically that a casino is committing fraud when it does not directly offer KYC to its players before playing. But most gamblers create an account, without direct deposit email verification without a read terms and conditions. It often happens to gamblers who end up while depositing and winning a lot of money having problems with the casino.

Therefore there are casinos that are now implementing a locking system for new users when going to make a deposit but have not verified for example lev2. So you cannot display the deposit address before completing the lev2 verification. I think this is more than enough evidence that casinos provide warnings so that gamblers understand the procedures that apply in casinos.

[Yablee0]

The point is rather that some casinos allow you to play without KYC, but if you win a large amount, the casino will almost certainly require you to complete KYC.

Yea, i am pretty aware that this is how most of them do. But personally, I am more comfortable with passing all my kyc process even before depositing a penny into that account for convenience sake. Because I hate it when I am in the middle of withdrawal or trying to cash out winnings then that is when I will be subjected to complete my KYC, what if you don't have all the time to do that. I think fulfilling all righteousness earlier before anything is more better and safe.

On Stake, since KYC become mandatory, you have to register and pass verification before you can be able to deposit crypto or fiat into your gambling account on the gambling site.

That's a perfect one, no stress or whatever. Everything is transparence and orderly done.  Unlike some few that will pressure you to go ahead to stake without doing the needful and in turn condition you when it's time to withdraw you money.

[Somegory]

On Stake, since KYC become mandatory, you have to register and pass verification before you can be able to deposit crypto or fiat into your gambling account on the gambling site. I like the site for that, but not all gambling sites will be KYC. I have sued gambling sites before that are not KYC gambling sites, I was able to withdraw without any issues, but anything can happen.

Well that's stake, not some online casinos, but I get you all, maybe that's the point, maybe 🤔 my friend failed to ask the customer services to pass KYC verification directly but I feel it's still not the right thing.

They should make KYC verification available upfront, like how you will get on a centralised exchange and they will ask you immediately to pass KYC to avoid some restrictions.

You will be surprised that right after you won some money your ID start to bounce back, the same ID you have used to pass very KYC verification online before.

I might never experienced this because of how low I go with gambling, until I get extremely lucky to win a very big amount, now it isn't happening.

[asriloni]

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

So you have to stop to use offshore/unregulated casino. All of regulated casino such as Stake, Bet365, and etc are asking KYC from the users ufront to verify the identity and age is legal to gamble. The delayed KYC verification often appeared in most of offshore/unregulated casino. You have to know in what place you're gambling.

Beside that verifying your KYC is not guarantee your account is free from getting banned or frozen when casino sees something suspicious from your account. There's no safe place to gambling, but just hope you don't do something wrong when you gamble, then you can freely withdraw and deposit anytime as you want.

[Cointxz]

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

This is a misconception for a long time that your withdrawal will never be restricted if you done KYC already.

Casino can stop your withdrawal if it was under investigation regardless if you completed all your KYC verification level. It’s the casino findings matters the most on the fate of your casino account.

They are just requiring it when necessary which is totally fine approach on applying KYC on crypto casino.

[Bryan jessy]

I think the issue should be why people like bypassing KYC verification, most people avoid casinos that requires KYC verification some authentic casinos makes it mandatory from the start while others does not request for it at all but some only request for it when a gambler wins huge amount of money, and when they suspect an unusual activity from a gambler. So any gambler who bypasses  KYC verification should also prepare for the next action the casino is going to take, I prefer casinos that requires KYC verification at the very beginning before I deposit any money there, to me it's an assurance that my funds are safe, any legit KYC casino will never stop a gambler from completing his verification.

[TedMosby]

I keep saying it. KYC rules should apply to both parties, gamblers and casinos. I understand that a casino has the right to hold or not pay the winnings of users who cannot pass KYC checks related to AML and other requirements. But if the casino can't pay these players because they failed to pass the KYC process, then it should be applied vice versa. Players should be allowed to ask for their money back, because how will the casino report the funds if the source of funds cannot be verified either?

IMO, accepting money from unverified gamblers could open possibility of money laundering on the casino side. For example, someone could create a casino, ask other people to deposit their dirty money, and intentionally lose it. Does it make sense?

For me, the best solution for both casinos and players is to apply clear deposit or withdrawal limits. Some casinos already apply this without any problems (due to regulations or operations), so I don't know why others can't follow it. I can't find any reasonable reason for delaying KYC until withdrawal, except that it gives them another opportunity to make free money.

[hedgeh0g]

Let's be honest.

Casinos are getting away with people not been able to pass their KYC information after they won some money.
It's like some of them are intentionally using this against gamblers.

You won't know how friendly your favourite online casino is until you won some good amount of money.
Someone I knew had the same experience recently and it got me wondering why..

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

I don’t know of a single online casino that doesn’t allow players to complete KYC in advance before they dive into the world of slots and so on. I don’t think casinos or even bookmakers deliberately hide this button - after all, you can always upload your documents. I’ve read that even many experienced gamblers complete the KYC procedure right away before starting to play, because they want to avoid problems in the future. And in this way, they simply show that they aren’t owners of multiple accounts, or those who are prohibited from playing.

As for the impossibility of completing KYC after winning, I agree that I’ve heard such stories. So, it does happen.

[bitbollo]

there is one real answer at least to me.
All reputable business can have legitimate doubt, anyway I am not surprising they are getting advantage of this issue.
If all platforms would have a forced KYC for all players this would be clearly expensive.
Also this not expected by the most of players that like to use crypto. In any case with gambling its much easier to follow the ToS and local rules.

[Die_empty]

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

Allowing prospective customers to use a gambling site before KYC is a marketing strategy. New users would be discouraged from registering at a casino if the process is complex or time-consuming. Any casino that adopts this your suggestion might lose new customers. It is advisable to always read the terms of service of every casino before registration because I don't think casinos would stop this registration before KYC. This might also change in the future if regulatory laws force them to adopt a new registration process. Placing bets on casinos with a long-standing reputation would reduce the problems people face in the process.

[Karl_3000]

If all platforms would have a forced KYC for all players this would be clearly expensive.

Please what did you mean by it will be clearly expensive if all gambling platforms forced KYC? Did you mean they can not be able to do it? Why are they gambling sites if they are unable to do something like that.

Also this not expected by the most of players that like to use crypto. In any case with gambling its much easier to follow the ToS and local rules.

I will not like it but KYC gambling sites have most customers. There are many people that still do not like KYC gambling sites because they want anonymity.

[Awaklara]

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

Initial verification is usually quite easy, involving email or phone number. What is done is an attempt to make gamblers comfortable at the beginning; after creating their accounts, they can immediately deposit and play.
The troublesome KYC cases arise when attempting to withdraw winnings, which can be very frustrating. Many gamblers complain about this issue. We cannot view it as an effort to block withdrawals. Large withdrawals certainly have procedures that must be followed. However, I am also a gambler who feels uncomfortable with such matters.

[Nrcewker]

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

Casinos dont enforce KYC when you join because they want to market themselves as “no KYC crypto casinos.” Its part of their marketing strategy. There is no KYC required to join or play on the site. But once you win big, you may be prompted to complete KYC. There are some legitimate casinos that enforce KYC honestly. They use it to cross verify your bets and also request KYC to prevent money laundering. However not all casinos do this for the same reasons. Some intentionally ask for KYC to make things difficult for gamblers. They simply cant digest how a gambler has won so much money and is now asking to withdraw it.

I have also come across cases where a casino doesnt have enough funds to process withdrawals so they delay the process by requesting KYC. So the short answer to your question OP is that casinos do this to market themselves as “no KYC casinos.”