People are tolerant of corruption or economical scams because one reason

[#CapsLOck]

I believe another reason people are okay with corruption is that it's sometimes easier to do nothing than to do something. An ordinary employee reporting fraud may risk losing his or her job, damaging relationships or even putting oneself under personal pressure; the corrupted individual might have money and contacts to protect him or her. This leaves people with the feeling that why should I become a target if nothing is going to change? Once enough people work that out, corruption slowly begins to become normal. Fighting corruption is not just about having to tell people to be honest. It's also necessary to have adequate safeguards for the whistleblowers themselves and for institutions where allegations of wrongdoing can make a difference. Otherwise, ordinary people will not take all of the risks.

[abhiseshakana]

There are different kinds of corruptions and we can't judge them the same way. Let's take your example to compare it, giving some cigarette money to speed up some administrative matter. Compare that to stealing money that was meant to go to the poor and homeless. It is its own league, we can't even judge it all. The issues are many when it comes to this subject, we are more tolerating of small or petty corruptions because there are big corruptions all around us. Also petty corruption is not the same, the cases there can also be different.

In one case you can have some cigarette money where the clerk does extra work to help you with the paperwork or guide you nicely. This is not the same as them manipulating the paperwork for you to obtain something that you otherwise couldn't, that would be very big fraud. One reason for which cigarette money is needed in some countries is because the bureaucracy is very slow, so we can see this actually as an informal market forming to solve the issue for those that want to pay. I do not know what the solution to this problem is, but if we had less big corruption maybe people would start to become more strict for smaller things too. What is not a good solution is to focus on petty corruption that does not harm others like this cigarette money, that would be a very inefficient way to approach this problem.

Big scale corruption and petty cash corruption, indeed has a different depth of impact, but i think the habit of giving a small tip we call cigarette money make normalization and degradation of public serviced mindset, it is not about the amount but its habituating effect, when it is condoned,official or civil servant normalize these practicemake them forget that their main obligation for public serving, they already paid from our taxes. Cigarrete money change what actually public rights into commodity that public must pay.

This practice (informal market you describe) not fair and also discriminative, public service which actually must be same for everyone only fast for who have extra money and become more slow and disregarding the rights of the poor who can not pay extra money.

If everybody has same thingking that small corruption acceptable due to there are many big corruption that has occurred and has not yet been acted upon, i affraid about each society level has its own corruption standarization. For poor people cigarrete money can be already feels big. But for the have, billions in bribe money considered insignificant. So how to define corruption fairly, if the standarization is amount ? Let takes example, about  goverment project biding, to win the project a party can bribe with execution, their services or product is the best and they obediently pay taxes which are fantastic in value which mean they give more benefit to society than other competitor. Is it fair ?

The most important thing, control come from ourself first, we can not control other thought about corruption. Healthy systemic reformation will never occur if individual five space for corruption ecosystem growth under the pretext that those at te top are worse.

[Tungbulu]

I don't think people are ignorant of corruption. If you look at it closely, people do complain. If they complain, that means they hate it. So why then does it prevail.   It's simple. Many things can cause it. What if they report and they don't have security for themselves. The person that stole the funds might kill them. So they just shut up like nothing happened. Some want to report but the system won't take anything to action. So they just leave it as it is. So many things that they want to do about it. Some it's because someday they also will benefit.

I don’t think the reason why corruption is thriving in the economy is because everyone is just too careless or selfish to tolerate it. But instead I believe the major reason is because resisting it has far more negative impact on you personally than deciding to just tolerate it. When people have that mindset that their personal safety, livelihood and future opportunities could be compromised if they eventually speak up, then silence automatically becomes more of the only way to survive and not necessarily because they’ve accepted or approved of it. And this is why it takes the assurance and unwavering support of institutions that protects the whistleblowers and definitely not just individuals who are bold or courageous enough to speak up.

[Dogedegen]

Big scale corruption and petty cash corruption, indeed has a different depth of impact, but i think the habit of giving a small tip we call cigarette money make normalization and degradation of public serviced mindset, it is not about the amount but its habituating effect, when it is condoned,official or civil servant normalize these practicemake them forget that their main obligation for public serving, they already paid from our taxes. Cigarrete money change what actually public rights into commodity that public must pay.

You might be right about that, but the point stands that you can't solve corruption by focusing on petty corruption. Why would a person give up their small benefit when rich people are stealing hundreds of millions together with the government? It is not going to happen this way, it is impossible because that is a deeply spread society thing.

This practice (informal market you describe) not fair and also discriminative, public service which actually must be same for everyone only fast for who have extra money and become more slow and disregarding the rights of the poor who can not pay extra money.

You didn't understand my example then because you are talking about something else. For many government things, you will not be provided help to do it completely or to understand it completely that is why people also get lawyers sometimes. There is the amount of help that the law specifies that you need to get, but many times this is not enough to understand how to do something the first time. If a market forms that provides a financial incentive for the people working there or people who know the processes to help you beyond what they are required, that is not discriminating. If you call that discriminating, then whole of capitalism is discriminating.. that argument is not correct. Benefits should come from earning money, that is the reward for hard work and is at the center of capitalism.

The most important thing, control come from ourself first, we can not control other thought about corruption. Healthy systemic reformation will never occur if individual five space for corruption ecosystem growth under the pretext that those at te top are worse.

Something that is true is not a pretext. You did not understand the core of my argument unfortunately. Change for this kind of issue can not come from the bottom because changing the bottom is harder because of scale and fairness. People will take what they can when the top has legalized many kinds of corruption and don't even pay their fair share of tax. Criticizing the bottom for survivalist corruption would be quite evil. Corruption must be not treated equally, that is a generalization fallacy. Each corruption should be treated based on how strong the offense is and how much damage it causes. If you want to see corruption that harms nobody the same as taking away food from the starving, then your position is wrong..

[coupable]

When corruption is limited to political leaders, it is not difficult to stop that corruption. Because the people are clearly against corruption and when the level of corruption increases, the people will stand up. But the leaders adopt a clever strategy here, they also involve the majority of the people of the country in corruption so that some part of the corruption is given to those people and the rest of the money can be embezzled by the leader. In this strategy, there are not many people to stand up against corruption. That is why corruption can easily become long-lasting.

We should be aware that education is the only solution that can make citizens in every system aware, but nowadays social media sites have taken over the young people critical thinking ability. They think social media will make their lives easier by just keep scrolling and collect reacts. Some make money by spreading stupidity, others beg during video lives, and others offering their bodies to show some sexuality, but no one talks about raising awareness of these problems. Perhaps this was not what the educational departments of those countries wanted to establish in the minds of youth, or the educational system needed an update to reach today’s level of technological progress.

[Makus]

For you to expect to benefit from the corrupt system doesn't that make you corrupt too? Well, people only recognize corruption when it doesn't benefit them, it is a fact that most average people would steal when they find themselves in such positions. The people that are currently in positions of power were once criticizing others of being corrupt are now doing the same things that they criticized. People are not just tolerant of this it has become accepted and that's where the problem is, change cannot be effected if this system has become normalized. It is dangerous for such to be normalized because the common man or average citizens would see this as a standard they would also believe that they have to go through that route to become successful which only makes the system much worse.

[pawanjain]

A corrupt system eats off their citizens paychecks directly or indirectly. It's us who has to be aware of what's going on around.
If we spot something that's not ethical then we have to shout out the same because at the end, it's going to come back to us.
The issue is that the system is so powerful and so against us that a normal citizen has to go out of their way to fight back.
The though of doing so is where they give up and thus the system gains the advantage and gets even more corrupted.
May be when many people start fighting back is when the system will lose their ground and start doing things that will actually help the citizens and the community.

[fruktik]

When someone wins elections then people can't do anything that's true for most countries. The politicians have so much power that they use when needed and citizens of a country can't really do anything against such corrupt leaders.

They can't even change the corrupt system because in politics the corruption is in the minds of the politicians, they only want to get elected to they can have power to take country level decisions. The citizens can't do anything that's why they only speak with each-other about the system and can't do anything else.

Is it true that citizens are powerless to act? Not at all. History offers many examples of people staging revolutions and mass strikes against those in power. My own country followed this path just over thirty years ago. People had grown tired of seeing the same individuals—hopelessly corrupt figures—clinging to office for years on end. That is why people need to summon their resolve and unite; we must show ourselves that we are not mere doormats and refuse to remain under the yoke of usurpers.

[Mayor of ogba]

The fight against corruption is a collective responsibility. If nations don't stand up as one voice to fight corruption it will certainly last almost forever.  Those who are involved in corruption do so because it has been normalized and everyone has compromised their standards. Those who claim they don't tolerate corruption and don't have the voice can start recruiting people of similar interest, come together and start a motion to reclaim back the society through strategic involvement in leadership.

What you just said is what is currently happening in my country, and yet the citizens doesn't want to join force together and fight corruption collectively. In a world where politicians has people that gives them information, it won't be easy for those who don't tolerate corruption to start recruiting people of the same interest because one of them must surely tell someone of the agenda to reclaim back the society or country from the corrupt leaders, once that happens the agenda will be leaked and once it's leaked it will get to the ears of the corrupt leaders. The corrupt leaders won't hesitate to arrest those behind the agenda and dealt with them in way that they won't even think of fighting corruption in their lives anymore. The best way to fight corruption when people in a country are tired of corruption and they are ready to die for the betterment of their country.

[DrBeer]

When the issue of corruption comes up, it’s usually attributed to certain echelons of power in the country, the government, law enforcement agencies, the police, and so on.
But no one ever, or almost never, mentions, or deliberately forgets, that widespread corruption is generated by us ourselves! Think about how many times each of us has, at some point in our lives, sought out and used a "friend of a friend who works in the right place", said "I don’t want to pay all my taxes", offered "Let me give you a little something, and you’ll get the paperwork done quickly", or suggested "Let me give you a little something, and we’ll forget about the speeding ticket", and other similar situations? Yet we demand honesty and an absence of corruption from the government...

I mention this a little on page 2, but not so explicit with examples like you. Corruption of systems is built up from the bottom, so from the foundations. People like to complain and point fingers at those at the top, but the issue of corruption exists because widespread corruption is present on these lower levels like you mention it. As I wrote in my post, people criticize the corruption of other groups but when they get benefit from it then they keep silent or sometimes even defend it. In some direct examples we can sometimes see how far a human will twist the story or the situation to justify his own corruption while criticizing the corruption of others. Only when this widespread corruption has decreased much more could be maybe see more honesty and biggest absence of corruption from the government. Until then there is no hope for that problem..
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Yes, the biggest problem is people's hypocrisy. On the one hand, they want to "call their brother who works in the police and get the issue sorted out", on the other hand, they get outraged when the lawmakers they've elected plunder the country and evade accountability. That's why we'll never be able to fight corruption. There's a world of difference between saying you want something and actually doing it! There's a huge gap between talking and taking action. But people also tend to shift the blame onto others rather than acknowledging their own problems and solving them.

[kingstep]

Here why economic system and inflation and wealth gap and corruptions stays:  time when it will affecting you you see others falling allready even educated omes law abide citizens honest ones ..... you haven't fall yet, ask yourself when it's your turn? It will come , because more gains and profit corrupted political leaders and financial criminals like bankers does it .....more it needs total loss and failure of average person lifes!

Most times, people decides to see corruption and keep quiet just because they don’t have the means of fighting against it. There are some form of corruption that you can fight and others that you might just avoid till you’ve built the capacity to confronting it. In most cases, the individual that are sponsoring these corruption are the high and mighty and for an average person that’s just trying to survive, it’s not logical to take that kind of risk.

Corruption happens in different cadres and it will only be okay to call people corruption tolerant when it’s happening at a level they are capable of influencing and they aren’t doing enough to make their voice heard in that regard. Even if you’re benefiting from corrupt and chooses to be quiet about it, a time will come that your children will face it and the effect of your silence will hunt generation that are coming behind. There are time to be calm about some sort of corruption for the right reasons and time that you must speak up regardless who’s the powerful person spearheading the act.

[Nathrixxx]

The summary I see here is how people are impatient enough to make it in life, they will rather choose the wrong part and the quicker to the fulfillment of destiny than to wait for their right time, life is not as easy as many have thoughts and that is why we have to give it more of extra care, who has to not allow others mislead us by their achievements and we tend not to wait for our own time to come.

[ejikeme24]

I don't think people are ignorant of corruption. If you look at it closely, people do complain. If they complain, that means they hate it. So why then does it prevail.   It's simple. Many things can cause it. What if they report and they don't have security for themselves. The person that stole the funds might kill them. So they just shut up like nothing happened. Some want to report but the system won't take anything to action. So they just leave it as it is. So many things that they want to do about it. Some it's because someday they also will benefit.

You're actually making sense here, i also believe that the reason why corruption has refused to stop is due to the fact that many will see something bad but they will choose not to talk and yeah sometimes it could be due to the fear of Lossing their job but the major reason why many people don't like saying it is because they know that if they say it out that the government won't take any reasonable action over the issue sometimes they tend to see those who are saying the truth as bad citizens,  that is why many people infact, I personally don't like discussing anything with the government.

[Bright0515]

It's not corruption if you are not benefiting from it, this is the mentality of a lot of people and for those that are not in any way connected to the political system that makes them benefit from corruption they just tell themselves that they are going to probably do the same thing if they are in the same position, this is what makes them normalize such systems which is not supposed to be so.

The summary I see here is how people are impatient enough to make it in life, they will rather choose the wrong part and the quicker to the fulfillment of destiny than to wait for their right time, life is not as easy as many have thoughts and that is why we have to give it more of extra care, who has to not allow others mislead us by their achievements and we tend not to wait for our own time to come.

The problem with a lot of people is that they assume success cannot be achieved by following a legal means because they are being influenced by political figures or personalities that do a whole lot of dirty things to make money, this is what makes them assume that significant money does not come clean.

[slapper]

Here why economic system and inflation and wealth gap and corruptions stays:  time when it will affecting you you see others falling allready even educated omes law abide citizens honest ones ..... you haven't fall yet, ask yourself when it's your turn? It will come , because more gains and profit corrupted political leaders and financial criminals like bankers does it .....more it needs total loss and failure of average person lifes!

Most times, people decides to see corruption and keep quiet just because they don’t have the means of fighting against it. There are some form of corruption that you can fight and others that you might just avoid till you’ve built the capacity to confronting it. In most cases, the individual that are sponsoring these corruption are the high and mighty and for an average person that’s just trying to survive, it’s not logical to take that kind of risk.

Corruption happens in different cadres and it will only be okay to call people corruption tolerant when it’s happening at a level they are capable of influencing and they aren’t doing enough to make their voice heard in that regard. Even if you’re benefiting from corrupt and chooses to be quiet about it, a time will come that your children will face it and the effect of your silence will hunt generation that are coming behind. There are time to be calm about some sort of corruption for the right reasons and time that you must speak up regardless who’s the powerful person spearheading the act.

I'm with you on the survival part.
After all, a man who struggles to feed his four children on a meager salary is never going to march to a commissioner's office holding damning evidence in both hands. If any self-assigned keyboard crusader wants to accuse him of being a coward, they're welcome to go first.

The "build capacity first" approach will never work, because no one has ever successfully built capacity alone. If the costs of fighting are borne by one person, but the benefits are shared by everybody, then almost nobody fights. That's just rational thinking. Corrupt people don't fear individuals, they fear the strength of groups. If we all wait until we individually feel strong enough, that day will never come. For each of us, the math stays the same.

Sure, corruption, like any vice, exists on a spectrum. There's a difference between levels that you can do something about and those you can't.
But the big names at the top, those we point our finger at, weren't always scoundrels. Most corruption starts small. A padded contract here, a little envelope for signing a file there. That's often all folks see of the corrupt people in their midst: just enough to raise eyebrows, not enough to cause an uproar. And people shrug. Small is where power really lies, and small is where people tend to turn a blind eye. It's funny how that works.

I'd also separate the guy who is scared of saying no from the one who is making money off the corruption. They're two different animals. The guy who's scared of saying no needs your support, patience, and acceptance. The one who's making money off it and says he's waiting for the right time is merely making an excuse.
What does saying no look like for the average person? It's probably not delivering a single, rousing speech. It's more likely five coworkers agreeing to support each other when they say no.

[Kuti4life]

People will turn a blind eye until it affects them directly... It's true that corruption has eaten deep into our system and there's nothing being done about it... It has become so bad that the citizens now have to be corrupt to put food on the table like traders increasing the prices of their goods or cheating the wealthy looking customers to make more profit so that it could go in for more expenses they have to make to survive...

[Taricoins]

I believe another reason people are okay with corruption is that it's sometimes easier to do nothing than to do something. An ordinary employee reporting fraud may risk losing his or her job, damaging relationships or even putting oneself under personal pressure; the corrupted individual might have money and contacts to protect him or her. This leaves people with the feeling that why should I become a target if nothing is going to change? Once enough people work that out, corruption slowly begins to become normal. Fighting corruption is not just about having to tell people to be honest. It's also necessary to have adequate safeguards for the whistleblowers themselves and for institutions where allegations of wrongdoing can make a difference. Otherwise, ordinary people will not take all of the risks.

I think this is very through, when the corruption has gotten to the heart and grain of the society, even doing something right is perceived as wrong, and that's the bane of every society. Another reason is hopelessness, and I think that's the one facing my country, it emanates from quoted post and it gets to the point when an individual feels like nothing he does can help the society, so he joins in an enables it.

[Localhostspeed]

People will turn a blind eye until it affects them directly... It's true that corruption has eaten deep into our system and there's nothing being done about it... It has become so bad that the citizens now have to be corrupt to put food on the table like traders increasing the prices of their goods or cheating the wealthy looking customers to make more profit so that it could go in for more expenses they have to make to survive...

There is one Kenyan man that went viral on Tiktok, he said that Corruption is bad but when he is not involved but if he is involved in corruption, he is going to defend it. People only complain about bad governance when they are not involved but let's the table turn, their conscience die immediately. This is why I don't trust some people when they are not in position, I can only rate your trust if you are in position and you did it accordingly to how the law works.

When a government isn't doing something well and you see people complaining about food inflation, high cost of living, like the way the gas price has increased, people want to condemn them because they are not in position of power, once you turn the baton and give the same citizen that is complaining, they suddenly forget about the suffering and what the masses are feeling.

[Marvelockg]

I don't think people are ignorant of corruption. If you look at it closely, people do complain. If they complain, that means they hate it. So why then does it prevail.   It's simple. Many things can cause it. What if they report and they don't have security for themselves. The person that stole the funds might kill them. So they just shut up like nothing happened. Some want to report but the system won't take anything to action. So they just leave it as it is. So many things that they want to do about it. Some it's because someday they also will benefit.

You're actually making sense here, i also believe that the reason why corruption has refused to stop is due to the fact that many will see something bad but they will choose not to talk and yeah sometimes it could be due to the fear of Lossing their job but the major reason why many people don't like saying it is because they know that if they say it out that the government won't take any reasonable action over the issue sometimes they tend to see those who are saying the truth as bad citizens,  that is why many people infact, I personally don't like discussing anything with the government.

There is a popular saying by an average person that sees his right to be limited to a very large extent and that is that Freedom of speech is allowed but freedom after speech is not guaranteed.  This is a very serious reality because most of those that are extremely corrupt aren't ready to face criticism. you criticize them and your life is being threatened, if you don't have the means of protecting yourself, being quiet becomes a good option.

Those that are benefitting from corruption are quiet about it because it is to their advantage. those that aren't benefiting from it are diadvantaged due to lack of resource and protection and have to endure it even when they don't feel like doing so.

[Johnlomape]

I believe another reason people are okay with corruption is that it's sometimes easier to do nothing than to do something. An ordinary employee reporting fraud may risk losing his or her job, damaging relationships or even putting oneself under personal pressure; the corrupted individual might have money and contacts to protect him or her. This leaves people with the feeling that why should I become a target if nothing is going to change? Once enough people work that out, corruption slowly begins to become normal. Fighting corruption is not just about having to tell people to be honest. It's also necessary to have adequate safeguards for the whistleblowers themselves and for institutions where allegations of wrongdoing can make a difference. Otherwise, ordinary people will not take all of the risks.

I think this is very through, when the corruption has gotten to the heart and grain of the society, even doing something right is perceived as wrong, and that's the bane of every society. Another reason is hopelessness, and I think that's the one facing my country, it emanates from quoted post and it gets to the point when an individual feels like nothing he does can help the society, so he joins in an enables it.

Corruption has gone far in this world and it can not be stopped. Businesses are growing and flourishing due to corruption and how they are handling their customers. The reason why its looking like people don't fight back corruption is not because of fear of revolution but the efforts it's going to take to convince people to fight for their right and what they deserved.
The world we are in is full of strange people that don't want changes at all and that has made life difficult and uneasy to scale through.