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September 09, 2026, 04:00:58 PM
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The system does not give up. It moves like zombies regardless of what is shot at it. It moves and infect, and before you realize it, your friends, boss, those you count on or trust to maintain the principles will start working with it and against you. But we have something far greater than the system to depend on, which is our CREATOR

I'm pretty sure the system would have taken over Bitcoin since if they could, they have tried but aren't successful and that's why they have been fighting Bitcoin for like forever. Bitcoin isn't like other inventions that they can easily control and that's why they keep seeing it as a threat to their control. They've now resulted to using the service providers as they make all of them centralized and under their control starting with the exchanges and now moving towards wallets but still that can't compromise Bitcoin network because it never needed any of them to begin with but this centralized platforms became popular due to Bitcoin success. Bitcoin is still going to be used as it has always intended to be (decentralized) and the sooner the system realizes this, they better for them to accept defeat.

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September 09, 2026, 07:04:09 PM
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I might still be a little high since I don't where or what the last paragraph mean
And on taking over
So I am lost at those spots too.
But I think the creator he mean is the creator of Bitcoin which is Satoshi Nakamoto. He might also means religion incline of the our creator. If that be, I don't think if it is meaningful to bring religion into technological views.

It is also not proper to lean our hope in the Decentralized space on any authority and not even the creator of the Decentralized technology.


They don't have to change anything about bitcoin
What they need is to change how people make use of it
Which so far has been easy
Make People believe third party is easier which would make regulations and restrictions
And convince them all this are for their own Good.
It is as simple as that, the mechanism of Bitcoin Decentralized Consensus can not be tampered and I don't think if that is even trust that the government is longing to take over the Decentralized system.
The Centralized infrastructures is only aimed to regulate users in other to mitigate corruption as some users has already visioned the Decentralized digital technology as means to do evil.

Perhaps no one is mandated to use the Centralized but because it is an infrastructure that makes it easier to spend or transaction with the digital finance, many user has only seen it necessity and personally chooses to use it because of the easy factor and so are also aware that they have loosen their Prrivacies to the authorities but nevertheless, the system does not and csn not comprised the Bitcoin Decentralized protocols.

 
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Today at 07:32:55 AM
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There have been several attempt to ensure that bitcoin network is being taken over, but one thing they couldn't achieve to see come true is the fact that the entire network is dependent on a decentralized network and blockchain technology is backing it up, which does not permit for any third party interference or any form of alteration that may come as a result of censorship, this is why in the past time we have series of attacks on bitcoin network but everything turned to be unsuccessful because bitcoin remain consistent about its value and network protocols.

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Today at 09:55:59 AM
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If we are alone, without assistance from something greater than fiat/centralized system, it will be possible for Bitcoin to be captured by the system, which is basically the "greatest power in earth,"
This is unclear. What exactly are you talking about here? The main things backing/assisting Bitcoin are the nodes, miners, devs, and the most important of them all, the users. So I honestly don't know what you're driving at.


The Bitcoin principles make capture difficult but not impossible. Attempts have been made in the past to capture Bitcoin but they have to break through the principles of decentralization of Bitcoin, transparency, trustlessness, permissionless, immutability, censorship resistance, etc.   To succeed they will try to weaken the principles by centralizing the nodes, operating opaquely, weakening immutablity and privacy , removing trustlessness and permissionless, etc . Has this happened or is already happening? Investigate properly, you'll probably see the signs. Notwistanding if they succeed in breaking the principles they will finally face SOMETHING greater than them, WHO typically intervenes when the going becomes impossible for mere mortals.
The things you described above have not happened. There is the 51% miners attack scenario that has been discussed, but has not happened. And even if it happens, they most they can do is add new blocks and create a double-spend transaction attack. They can't change the base structure, take out coins from wallets without permission, destroy the network, increase Bitcoin TS, etc. So, there are no signs to all the things you're describing.


The system does not give up. It moves like zombies regardless of what is shot at it. It moves and infect, and before you realize it, your friends, boss, those you count on or trust to maintain the principles will start working with it and against you. But we have something far greater than the system to depend on, which is our CREATOR
Uh...do you me God! That's weird, what does God have to do with Bitcoin? Okay, true, Bitcoin has a strong cryptography model coupled with its decentralized nature that it's very difficult to compromise—although, the quantum computers threat is still a variable that will be dealt with in time—but, this has nothing to do with "our CREATOR". This is just science (computer science precisely), maths, cryptography, game theory, distributed system, and human incentives. There is no divinity in this, trust me.

If today, for some reason, Bitcoin fails, it is all on us humans and Bitcoiners, not "our CREATOR".

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Today at 10:05:24 AM
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I believe the actual danger is for users to come to an acceptable comfort level with centralized layers on top of Bitcoin. Bitcoin can be decentralized at the protocol level with most people managing their bitcoins through custodians. Using custodial Lightning services. And using regulated gateways. The significance of that difference is it can be the connection itself that is the weak link. Or it could be the way of getting to it. But Bitcoin's resistance is not only on a node running basis. It's also on the ability of self custody and independent verification to be useful for everyday users.

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Today at 01:15:02 PM
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The system does not give up. It moves like zombies regardless of what is shot at it. It moves and infect, and before you realize it, your friends, boss, those you count on or trust to maintain the principles will start working with it and against you. But we have something far greater than the system to depend on, which is our CREATOR
Bitcoin can actually face pressure from powerful institutions, but I think it’s important that we separate influence from actual protocol control. There are already centralization risk around mining pools, custodians, exchanges and infrastructure, but those do not automatically mean that bitcoin has been captured. A miner can produce a block, but full node independently verifies whether the block has followed the consensus rules. There is no minner out there that can make an invalid transaction or try to create a coin outside the rules acceptable to validating node.

This is exactly why running a full independent node matters. Bitcoin resistance to capture comes from the fact that  not single miner, company, developer or government gets to unilaterally decide what constitutes valid bitcoin. Consensus changes also requires participants to adopt the new rules, bitcoin core it self doesn’t have the authority to impose them to everyone. There are legitimate signs of centralization that deserve attention. But saying bitcoin has been captured requires evidence that this actors can actually the independent validation performed by the network.

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Today at 01:22:44 PM
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I understand more or less what you mean. It's more difficult for centralized systems to control Bitcoin, but that doesn't prevent them from increasing their influence. ETFs are one example of how centralized systems appear to provide easier access and security to Bitcoin investments, but on the other hand, they're just one way they can influence how people hold and secure their Bitcoin. Tighter regulation and KYC are also other things that might happen.

They may not be able to intervene in decentralized systems, but they can change people's perceptions of them, and they're already doing that.

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