Indonesia arrests 5 foreigners suspected in online gambling syndicate

[Yorubek]

I think this is the second time I’m seeing cases of a country arresting foreigners who are said to be operating illegal gambling businesses in the country, which brings me to the question of why someone would leave their own country and go to the country of others just to open up an illegal gambling business.

Can't they open and operate such from wherever they are? Do they need to live in the country since the casino is illegal and they don’t own any physical office?

Maybe gambling is prohibited in the country of those foreigners, because I see no reason why someone will leave his country to do an iligal gambling business in another country. But however that is not a good reason for them to do an iligal gambling in another country, if gambling is not allowed in their country and they go to another country, they will have to make it legal instead of iligal. Doing it iligal means that they don't have good intention. I am glad the Indonesian government apprehend them earlier.

If their intentions were good, they would never have chosen the illegal way, I am not sure but I guess from their illegal gambling activities that they are not new to this way and have gained courage from previous experience to do illegal gambling business. Leaving your own country and coming to another country and running an illegal gambling business there is not really something that ordinary people can do today, they must have worked according to their plan, but they could not succeed.

There are people who can honestly dare to leave their country and come to another country and do illegal business, it would not have been believed if they had not seen them. I am grateful to the Indonesian government because they were able to catch the scammer very quickly, as a result of which many ordinary people were able to protect themselves from fraud.

[Obari]

Jakarta (ANTARA) - Indonesia's Immigration Office has arrested five foreign nationals from China and Vietnam suspected of being part of an international online gambling syndicate.

According to Banten Immigration Office Head Barron Ichsan, the five foreigners were arrested following an inspection of their place of stay on September 7, during which officers found "an unreasonable number of electronic devices operating automatically."

"During the inspection, our officers confiscated one computer, one laptop, and 26 cellphones," Ichsan said of the operation in his remarks on Saturday.

I think this is the second time I’m seeing cases of a country arresting foreigners who are said to be operating illegal gambling businesses in the country, which brings me to the question of why someone would leave their own country and go to the country of others just to open up an illegal gambling business.

Can't they open and operate such from wherever they are? Do they need to live in the country since the casino is illegal and they don’t own any physical office?

These scammers prefer to go to locations with more stable network because most of these scamming tools require high network and in most cases very stable network to function properly for maximizing profits

Second reason they would alway leave their country is because they believe that if they are caught in other countries, one option to their punishment might just be to deport them back to their country,  so I would say this is a great way to escape the law but it's not always certain.

Thirdly is security because these scammers know that, the nature of their job is not clean, they always want to move to other countries, stay low key, so their shits and move out of there to their homes and it will make tracking them very difficult.

[uneng]

These scammers prefer to go to locations with more stable network because most of these scamming tools require high network and in most cases very stable network to function properly for maximizing profits

Second reason they would alway leave their country is because they believe that if they are caught in other countries, one option to their punishment might just be to deport them back to their country,  so I would say this is a great way to escape the law but it's not always certain.

Thirdly is security because these scammers know that, the nature of their job is not clean, they always want to move to other countries, stay low key, so their shits and move out of there to their homes and it will make tracking them very difficult.

The riskier an operation is, more profitable it becomes. It's not equally profitable to run a gambling business in a country where the practice is legalized, because there will be lots of competitors looking for the same customers. Meanwhile, in a country where gambling is illegal, there isn't much competition, because people fear breaking the laws and being punished. On the other hand, the few who dare operating on clandestine schemes may raise the costs for customers who don't have another alternatives when looking for this activity, so they end paying for that.

It's similar to people who accept offers of entering with drugs inside their bodies in countries where there is death penalty for drugs dealing. They can make huge profit that way, but risks are high and severe.

[Chibit01]

I don’t have any information about this case, but I’ll venture to make a few assumptions. Perhaps the criminal penalty, if they are arrested, is less severe in Indonesia than in China or Vietnam? Maybe there are some nuances in financial transactions that make working from Indonesia easier or more profitable for them? Maybe they, or one of them, is already under police surveillance or is wanted in their home country? These could be the simplest reasons.

There are a lot of questions surrounding why these people left their home country for countries of others just to go and run gambling-related business, since they were said to be caught with mobile phones, we can also add that a local phone number being required is part of the reason, as they might need an active local mobile number to run the business in terms of local support system, and they might also need some local language speaker to help them in some things if none of them know how to speak the language.

[demonica]

Because it’s illegal to gamble in China. But I’ve seen a lot of Chinese here in my country who love gambling. So they would rather go to other countries where gambling is legal as long as you are registered and have permits. But since they probably don’t have those documents that is why they’re considered as illegal gambling. The government may not be as strict in foreign countries compared to their own country that’s why they choose to operate there.

Also, given the nature of gambling, they could earn a lot by operating a gambling site that’s why they risk doing something illegal like this for the money. Here in my country, I’ve encountered some who would rent out a place where they will live but you’ll never know what they do inside if they’re already operating a small online gambling business.

[Dogedegen]

These morons got caught primarily due to forging their return tickets thanks to their insatiable greed and this caught the eye of immigration officers who flagged them due to which their entire organisation collapsed. Proper bunch of filth for sure.

They primarily chose Indonesia due to its easy to acquire tourist visa, superb gambling environment despite it being illegal there and weak national currency. Happy to see karma getting served properly in this case.

I can't believe that this is the reason they got caught, that is just a crazy display of insane greed. People that are thinking reasonably when they are doing something illegal that needs to be hidden would never engage in an activity like this. You know that the basic is that you have to spend money for things that are needed to be safe. But it also makes sense in a way because I have almost never read a story where this kind of operation was run by smart people, they are usually not that smart they are just greedy or evil. You can earn a lot of money without being smart, but eventually something always goes wrong.

The riskier an operation is, more profitable it becomes. It's not equally profitable to run a gambling business in a country where the practice is legalized, because there will be lots of competitors looking for the same customers. Meanwhile, in a country where gambling is illegal, there isn't much competition, because people fear breaking the laws and being punished. On the other hand, the few who dare operating on clandestine schemes may raise the costs for customers who don't have another alternatives when looking for this activity, so they end paying for that.

It's similar to people who accept offers of entering with drugs inside their bodies in countries where there is death penalty for drugs dealing. They can make huge profit that way, but risks are high and severe.

This is not always true so I would not say it like that. Many criminals but also people engage in high risk activities that do not have profit maximization. This means that they could engage in a less risky activity as an alternative where they would make the same profit or even more profit than the one that they are doing right now. Things are not so simple because for that statement to be true, people would need to be aware of all possible alternatives and make the right risk management decisions but they often don't do that.

[Floxynice]

These scammers prefer to go to locations with more stable network because most of these scamming tools require high network and in most cases very stable network to function properly for maximizing profits

Second reason they would alway leave their country is because they believe that if they are caught in other countries, one option to their punishment might just be to deport them back to their country,  so I would say this is a great way to escape the law but it's not always certain.

Thirdly is security because these scammers know that, the nature of their job is not clean, they always want to move to other countries, stay low key, so their shits and move out of there to their homes and it will make tracking them very difficult.

The riskier an operation is, more profitable it becomes. It's not equally profitable to run a gambling business in a country where the practice is legalized, because there will be lots of competitors looking for the same customers. Meanwhile, in a country where gambling is illegal, there isn't much competition, because people fear breaking the laws and being punished. On the other hand, the few who dare operating on clandestine schemes may raise the costs for customers who don't have another alternatives when looking for this activity, so they end paying for that.

It's similar to people who accept offers of entering with drugs inside their bodies in countries where there is death penalty for drugs dealing. They can make huge profit that way, but risks are high and severe.

The riskier the job, the higher the profit expectation. Now that the illegal gambling syndicate has been bursted, I hope they now realised that everything that they have worked hard for will be lost. If they come out of these case and decide to start their life again, they will rather choose to go to a country that allows gambling, then pass through the proper legal channels to offer their gambling services to people who need the service. The benefits that come with illegality are usually temporary and the consequences are greater than the potential benefits. It is better to do things the right way and stay clean.

[Orpichukwu]

The answer is simple , people move to where the grass is greener... and like they say, it is greener on the other side. In this case, I presume that Indonesia has a weak gambling regulation so people are taking advantages of the loopholes to operate illegal casino because of course there is money in it.

If regulation was what actually pushed them to move to another country to do an illegal gambling business, now they have been caught and will also still face the same punishment and might also face more fines, like being banned from ever entering the country again.

Another thing some of these criminals also don’t consider is that the more they are being caught, the more likely they are to paint the image of their country as bad, which might put them under tight surveillance each time someone from such a country side visits. Indonesia.

What I can say regarding this is that they are conducting their illegal operations in various countries during their scheduled timeframe or months, allowing them to evade law enforcement since they are inherently criminals.
Therefore, to remain out of the radar of the police, they opt to shift from one country to another to run their dubious online gambling service.

That will cost a lot, and if they are operating in different countries where they need to be physically present, they will have to be moving around more often., and might have not had any reason to request for the extension of their visiting visa which was said to be among what lead the authorities to investigate them.

[qwertyup23]

I think this is the second time I’m seeing cases of a country arresting foreigners who are said to be operating illegal gambling businesses in the country, which brings me to the question of why someone would leave their own country and go to the country of others just to open up an illegal gambling business.

It is for a simple reason and the answer is obvious- gambling is just PROFITABLE.

In Indonesia, gambling in any kind of form or cause is illegal. Given that gambling has seen to be profitable in all countries, it is no wonder that these people migrate to different countries to start their gambling business. I find it interesting, however, that these persons risk the chance of setting up a business in a country which is well-known to prosecute and enforce their criminal laws strictly.

Can't they open and operate such from wherever they are? Do they need to live in the country since the casino is illegal and they don’t own any physical office?

Probably the demand of online gambling in Indonesia is high? I mean, I do agree that they could've establish their physical residence in another place. But the fact that they opted to risk such business in Indonesia itself speaks on how profitable the business might be.