WTF is this from Bovada sports betting ..

[ChiBitCTy]

I placed a single bet on GB to cover - 3 , it pushed. Glitch ?


( some say unsettled, some say loss, some say void- I feel like Bova maybe trying to f me or something.  

I accidentally placed a bet the week prior, It was say “Team A” -7 to cover. Let’s say I bet $25 in btc. Then I meant to double down and accidentally placed a let’s say $28 n btc on team B at + 6 (line had moved a pt).  I was shadow banned for a bit. Why? That’s not technically a wash bet right ?

Think I need a new outlet



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[DanWalker]

Generally taking opposite side in same match does not constitute any suspicious bet.

However if sportsbook's risk system detect that, regardless of outcome of two combined bet the exposure has been significantly reduced. In that case it might appear to them as promotional abuse or wagering manipulation.

By wash betting I understand an activity where turnover is generated through wagering without incurring any meaningful risk. So placing bet on opposite sides of same event also create this type of pattern. Especially when promotion and bonus requirement are involved.

btw, which casino is it?

[eternalgloom]

From your post it seems that these confusion arise from your lack of clear understanding of sportsbook rules.

Before you rush to blame any bookmaker you need to understand their mechanics a little more.

I placed a single bet on GB to cover - 3 , it pushed. Glitch ?

Not at all!

This is standard rule in sportsbook industry.

If you think it's a system glitch or the bookmaker is fucking you, you'd be wrong.

And some casino temporarily show status Unsettled or Void, but if your money comes back to balance in their final settlement then it must be assumed it is closed as a push.

[Ayers]

I was shadow banned for a bit. Why? That’s not technically a wash bet right ?

In fact, when sportsbook sees you placing bets on both side in same event after the line shift, they assume that you may be trying to find risk free position and arbitrage. Then maybe their security system is flagging you as reflex.

Most bookmaker clearly state in their ToS that you cannot create any arbitrage, hedging or wash trading pattern by betting on two sides of same event.
So bookmaker's security bots will track whether you double side by mistake or knowingly.
So they limit and shadow ban your account.

[CucakRowo]

btw, which casino is it?

Its Bovada dude, 

Think I need a new outlet

If you feel you have been wronged by Bovada then check your Bet Slip History to compare final scores of matches.
If score difference is exactly 3 points then it should be a push and your stake should be back.

And if you whether intentionally or by mistake place bet on opposite side of same match then not just Bovada, but any reputable crypto bookmaker will place limit on your account.

If anyone wants flexible betting style where you can back & lay or hedge in  middle then it is better to leave traditional sportsbook and use any betting exchange such as Betfair.

[ralle14]

The first and third bets seems about right, while the second bet needs to be resettled or at least brought up to support.

That -3 handicap should be a push or a tie at minimum, since GB won 20-17 against the Jets. These mistakes rarely happen, but support should help you revert that second slip to a push.

I also experienced wrongly settled bets like these a few times before. One was on Stake, and the other was from Nitro a long time ago.

[freedomgo]

I placed a single bet on GB to cover - 3 , it pushed. Glitch ?

Yeah results should be push according to their rules. https://www.bovada.lv/help/sports-faq/point-spread

When the final margin of victory exactly matches the point spread (e.g., the Patriots win by three points when the spread is -3), the outcome is a "Push." In this scenario, neither side covers the spread, and all point spread bets are returned to bettors as a draw. This tie means no one wins or loses their wager.

( some say unsettled, some say loss, some say void- I feel like Bova maybe trying to f me or something.  

I accidentally placed a bet the week prior, It was say “Team A” -7 to cover. Let’s say I bet $25 in btc. Then I meant to double down and accidentally placed a let’s say $28 n btc on team B at + 6 (line had moved a pt).  I was shadow banned for a bit. Why? That’s not technically a wash bet right ?

Think I need a new outlet

This one I don't think is a wash bet, arbitrage, or whatever you call it that is against the rules, because whatever side wins, you will still end up paying the vig, so it's obvious there's no abuse here. You should talk to support and explain your side because maybe the system mistakenly triggered your account and shadow banned you. Ask them to review the account manually.

They have what they call Reverse Activity, but in your case you are not using bonuses, so I don't think that can be used against you.

https://www.bovada.lv/help/sports-faq/general-betting-rules

7. Reverse Activity is not permitted. Reverse Activity is described as betting both sides of a single event for the purpose of either falsely achieving a stated minimum amount of betting activity in order to qualify for bonuses or to circumnavigate limits by wagering in combination with other events to create parlays. Winning wagers will be graded as void in such cases.

[Alphakilo]

I was shadow banned for a bit. Why? That’s not technically a wash bet right ?

In fact, when sportsbook sees you placing bets on both side in same event after the line shift, they assume that you may be trying to find risk free position and arbitrage. Then maybe their security system is flagging you as reflex.

Most bookmaker clearly state in their ToS that you cannot create any arbitrage, hedging or wash trading pattern by betting on two sides of same event.
So bookmaker's security bots will track whether you double side by mistake or knowingly.
So they limit and shadow ban your account.

There's got to be the future need to obviously avoid pushes Incase of next time and it's clear that the bet made actually flagged the system even though you used different amounts. It's indeed reflex.
Since no bonus was used from the looks of things, that's enough reason why you can get your funds but you'll need present your case well before support and that might mean presenting documents at some point, because it's a non-kyc site that may demand documents at some point like this.
This is very well one of the risks of using an offshore account.

[Haunebu]

Checked the screenshots and the -3 handicap is most definitely a push which is why a loss verdict doesn't make any sense at all. Looks more like middling than arbing or something else to me, but soft sportsbooks don't really like such stuff and end up limiting bets usually.

These sort of issues are pretty common actually on soft sportsbooks like Bovada sadly. Their customer care really needs to resolve the -3 handicap push part appropriately.

[ChiBitCTy]

From your post it seems that these confusion arise from your lack of clear understanding of sportsbook rules.

Before you rush to blame any bookmaker you need to understand their mechanics a little more.

I placed a single bet on GB to cover - 3 , it pushed. Glitch ?

Not at all!

This is standard rule in sportsbook industry.

If you think it's a system glitch or the bookmaker is fucking you, you'd be wrong.

And some casino temporarily show status Unsettled or Void, but if your money comes back to balance in their final settlement then it must be assumed it is closed as a push.

Huh?

First off everyone’s replies were mostly very poignant and helpful, confirmed what I believed to be true , this ain’t my first rodeo betting NFL games.

As for the Packers game I literally clicked on a single bet to cover -3, then all these weird transaction results popped up out of nowhere. I’ve been using them for shit. 15 years maybe, they f up all the time and I’m constantly getting inboxes from them for acknowledging as much, even when I had zero skin in the game or bet / issue referenced.

So all these push , loss etc ..a 100% not on me I can confirm. I should have received a final singular bet result slip stating a PUSH, we are both then even Steven. Whatever the f all that other stuff is..I will be reporting / inquiring on as well as looking for a new book

Honestly I don’t even want their stupid bonuses. You have to transact that shit too many times before it’s actually redeemable. Blah blah , yall know how that stuff works.

It’s also funny after all these years I’m still in “tier 1”. I don’t place big bets , mostly 4-6 cover a spread or money line bets per week. I mean it’s not Pennies. (A few says).

I’ve also never had a losing season. I’m too much of a puss (as well as a financial advisor by internal money management I just can’t bring myself to do it. Of course I could and I never place a bet I don’t fully expect to lose. That said ..

Bova has a very limited range of bet history. I’d have to log in but it’s something insane like 90 days or 6 months max i believe..is this pretty standard for sports books? (Not FanDuel, BetMGM bs books, of course..I’m sure they have your entire history easily accessible or a min absolutely do logged and server stored for probably countless years (depending on which U.S. state though, I’d also assume confidentially

Thx yall  

[DubemIfedigbo001]

I was shadow banned for a bit. Why? That’s not technically a wash bet right ?

In fact, when sportsbook sees you placing bets on both side in same event after the line shift, they assume that you may be trying to find risk free position and arbitrage. Then maybe their security system is flagging you as reflex.

Yeah, casinos have complex systems that check for arbitrage betting patterns in users accounts and the penalty for that depends on the contractual rules of a casino, most of them are against it and some are more lenient. So it is better to check with the casino rules and/or contact customer support for more clarifications on his case.

So they limit and shadow ban your account.

It is just a minor restriction, maybe since he didn't use heavy amounts to place the bets which is a more obvious case of arbitrage betting. In some casinos it may lead to the closure of the account, but it depends on how the casinos attend to such matters.

[leea-1334]

Push dude Always. Or Void,,, same result for you money back.

In football this is why I always go for Asian Handicaps and over/unders,,, with half point so I guarantee I win or lose the bet Not sure if they have it for American football but I do not see why not 

Regarding shadow ban, yes, even happens to me if I bet both sides. Unless one is prematch other is live

[Su-asa]

I was shadow banned for a bit. Why? That’s not technically a wash bet right ?

In fact, when sportsbook sees you placing bets on both side in same event after the line shift, they assume that you may be trying to find risk free position and arbitrage. Then maybe their security system is flagging you as reflex.

Most bookmaker clearly state in their ToS that you cannot create any arbitrage, hedging or wash trading pattern by betting on two sides of same event.
So bookmaker's security bots will track whether you double side by mistake or knowingly.
So they limit and shadow ban your account.

playing both sides on a particular event isn't enought evidence to claim that a player is using a forbidden strategy like the arbitrage system because they might decide to bet on both sides to win as single games. I think they need to do better at detecting such games instead of just assuming that the players are using the arbitrage system. There are many sportsbook that have blocked some bettors due to this reason.