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September 23, 2026, 06:12:38 AM
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Analytics make chart showing how much Bitcoin has grown since it was "buried" by some publisher or famous figure:



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$1,000 invested at every major "Bitcoin is dead" call would be worth:
• 2011, Forbes: $4,922,700
• 2014, Warren Buffett: $127,400
• 2017, Jamie Dimon: $20,700
• 2018, Warren Buffett: $8,800
• 2019, Donald Trump: $7,300
• 2022, European Central Bank: $5,000
• 2023, Charlie Munger: $3,550
• 2024, European Central Bank: $1,700

It's strange that they didn't include the head of BlackRock, who also once had negative comments.

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September 23, 2026, 06:20:02 AM
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Analytics make chart showing how much Bitcoin has grown since it was "buried" by some publisher or famous figure:

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$1,000 invested at every major "Bitcoin is dead" call would be worth:
• 2011, Forbes: $4,922,700
• 2014, Warren Buffett: $127,400
• 2017, Jamie Dimon: $20,700
• 2018, Warren Buffett: $8,800
• 2019, Donald Trump: $7,300
• 2022, European Central Bank: $5,000
• 2023, Charlie Munger: $3,550
• 2024, European Central Bank: $1,700

It's strange that they didn't include the head of BlackRock, who also once had negative comments.
"Bitcoin is dead" now is almost dead as people can make such calls while effects are very small. Since 2009, Bitcoin has matured enough so that it will not die by such calls. People who are Bitcoiners are no longer affected by "Bitcoin is dead".

There are many sites which track "Bitcoin is dead" and you can follow, bookmark them so that you will no longer have dependence on only WatcherGuru.
https://bitcoindeaths.com/
https://bitbo.io/dead/
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/
https://newhedge.io/bitcoin/bitcoin-is-dead
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September 23, 2026, 06:30:14 AM
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What all these people have in common is that they are corrupt oligarchs and/or are members of the Epstein Class who benefit the most from the corrupt financial system that they fully control; which means they hate it when there is an alternative system (ie. Bitcoin) that they cannot control and its adoption means people would get out of their corrupt system. #exit

All these years they've been trying to prevent people from "exiting" their corrupt system.

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September 23, 2026, 06:37:44 AM
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What all these people have in common is that they are corrupt oligarchs and/or are members of the Epstein Class who benefit the most from the corrupt financial system that they fully control; which means they hate it when there is an alternative system (ie. Bitcoin) that they cannot control and its adoption means people would get out of their corrupt system. #exit

All these years they've been trying to prevent people from "exiting" their corrupt system.
I will say you are right because since I know about bitcoin, my thinking completely changed. I heard a conversation with a friend just yesterday, he said if these rich people are talking, you will see that they only have luck but they make use of it, that there is nothing special that they are talking. But I told him that some of them will even said something that is completely wrong. Anyone that is believing what rich people says but not following the world with his own thinking and reasoning, such person might be misled. I am wondering what if I was foolish and followed Peter Schiff which was although not mentioned above or people like Warren Buffet about their take on bticoin.

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September 23, 2026, 06:38:15 AM
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Analytics make chart showing how much Bitcoin has grown since it was "buried" by some publisher or famous figure:

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$1,000 invested at every major "Bitcoin is dead" call would be worth:
• 2011, Forbes: $4,922,700
• 2014, Warren Buffett: $127,400
• 2017, Jamie Dimon: $20,700
• 2018, Warren Buffett: $8,800
• 2019, Donald Trump: $7,300
• 2022, European Central Bank: $5,000
• 2023, Charlie Munger: $3,550
• 2024, European Central Bank: $1,700

It's strange that they didn't include the head of BlackRock, who also once had negative comments.
"Bitcoin is dead" now is almost dead as people can make such calls while effects are very small. Since 2009, Bitcoin has matured enough so that it will not die by such calls. People who are Bitcoiners are no longer affected by "Bitcoin is dead".

There are many sites which track "Bitcoin is dead" and you can follow, bookmark them so that you will no longer have dependence on only WatcherGuru.
https://bitcoindeaths.com/
https://bitbo.io/dead/
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/
https://newhedge.io/bitcoin/bitcoin-is-dead
https://bitcoincalculator.tools/calculators/obituaries-tracker

Yes, Bitcoin has been "buried" more than 475 times since 2010. I've just never seen Forbes, among all of them, get their forecast so wrong by 5000 percent.

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September 23, 2026, 08:59:23 AM
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What all these people have in common is that they are corrupt oligarchs and/or are members of the Epstein Class who benefit the most from the corrupt financial system that they fully control; which means they hate it when there is an alternative system (ie. Bitcoin) that they cannot control and its adoption means people would get out of their corrupt system. #exit

All these years they've been trying to prevent people from "exiting" their corrupt system.

Honestly, something that sounds so impossible and conspirational, and yet has so much evidence to prove that it is actually true.

I'm not really a conspiracy theory kind of guy but all my years in forex and then now in Bitcoin, and the disgusting facts that emerge thanks to good journalism, taught me that there is a system. And it works so well for the 0.1%, that they will say and do everything and anything to keep the system alive for their children.

Every single thing the news tells us is important is led towards this same preservation of the system.

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September 23, 2026, 09:27:37 AM
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Do such statements still exist? The last time I heard anyone seriously claim that "Bitcoin is dead" was in 2021; since then, the markets have embraced it, despite some labeling it a bubble.
Therefore, anyone saying "Bitcoin is dead" is someone who hasn't updated their information in the last three years.

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September 23, 2026, 10:18:27 AM
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Do such statements still exist? The last time I heard anyone seriously claim that "Bitcoin is dead" was in 2021; since then, the markets have embraced it, despite some labeling it a bubble.
Therefore, anyone saying "Bitcoin is dead" is someone who hasn't updated their information in the last three years.
Why is it limited to only last three years?

There is freedom of speech so people are free to say "Bitcoin is dead" anytime since 2009 till 2026 and onward the future but if anyone has ever updated about Bitcoin since 2009 would have actually known that Bitcoin has been stronger a lot since Bitcoin Genesis Block.

The "Bitcoin is dead" has actually lost its effects among people in the crowd since years ago. Some people can be affected by that saying but they're no longer the majority. Bitcoin has grown to the time when people believe in "Bitcoin is dead", are fearful because of it, belong to the minority.

If Bitcoin is dead, the cryptocurrency industry is dead, the blockchain industry is dead. While the fact is any people who have been alive recent years and have had good awareness would have known that both blockchain industry and cryptocurrency industry have all grown up a lot.

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September 23, 2026, 10:40:38 AM
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It's strange that they didn't include the head of BlackRock, who also once had negative comments.
And as well as Peter Schiff or maybe he has sponsored that graph?  Tongue

There's also Nouriel Roubini who said that Bitcoin was a bubble and only awaits to explode. He's said that on 2021.

It's funny that these people have said everything they have thought of Bitcoin which was negative and yet, the opposite had fulfilled for Bitcoin.

 
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$1,000 invested at every major "Bitcoin is dead" call would be worth:
• 2011, Forbes: $4,922,700
• 2014, Warren Buffett: $127,400
• 2017, Jamie Dimon: $20,700
• 2018, Warren Buffett: $8,800
• 2019, Donald Trump: $7,300
• 2022, European Central Bank: $5,000
• 2023, Charlie Munger: $3,550
• 2024, European Central Bank: $1,700

That is precisely what shows that, while it isn't dead, the returns are following the typical curve that declines as the asset matures. So, looking ahead, we need to be realistic about the returns we can expect. Bitcoin is worth holding for many reasons—such as how difficult it is to confiscate or censor—but the days of becoming a multimillionaire by investing a small amount of capital and waiting out a couple of cycles are over.

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September 23, 2026, 01:49:03 PM
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It's not surprising that they were wrong then, it's surprising that some of them still have a similar (same) opinion today. Perhaps the logical explanation would be that in the past they were just too stupid to understand Bitcoin, and they are too stubborn to admit it even today.



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It's strange that they didn't include the head of BlackRock, who also once had negative comments.


It is even more strange that they did not include the statement of one of the biggest investors in Bitcoin in the last 5-6 years, but I guess they have to be careful whose name will be on the list Roll Eyes


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September 23, 2026, 02:14:35 PM
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Probably one of the best charts to date out there by the OP!

Every last one of those scumbags including the ones pushing the buttons in central banks have
been wrong - obviously. Their lies and negativity ovber the years about Bitcoin have only been
an excersize in protectionism but they couldnt stop Bitcoin.

Do such statements still exist? The last time I heard anyone seriously claim that "Bitcoin is dead" was in 2021; since then, the markets have embraced it, despite some labeling it a bubble.
Therefore, anyone saying "Bitcoin is dead" is someone who hasn't updated their information in the last three years.

Yes its still happening, its the only thing they can do to try and fingh a losing battle. Just two
weeks ago Peter schiff was talking about pretty much the imminent desth of Bitcoin

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September 23, 2026, 02:34:27 PM
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And this is the very first topic here in the forum that states "Bitcoin is dead & I predictied it - let's channel our discontent into OWS!. At that time, the price was trading around $2.10 or $2.70, and it would have been a whopping 3,518,096.72% increase since the creation of that thread. Wild!

I think the movement he emphasizes was the dead one, I don't know, but idealism lives on, physically, I guess.

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September 23, 2026, 02:34:34 PM
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This chart is undoubtedly legendary!

Yes it is frankly weird to miss Larry Fink. If I recall correctly around 2017 the man explicitly criticized Bitcoin by screaming it index of money laundering.

And today?

Making U-turn, they are calling it Digital Gold and International Asset, while raking in billions of dollar from through their IBIT ETF.

LOL, what could be more dramatic than that! Cheesy

imo, financial giants like Jamie Dimon or Warren Buffett still haven't been able to break free from their old fiat mindset. But Bitcoin paying no heed to anyone's word, keeps mining block at its own pace and proving them wrong.


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September 23, 2026, 02:39:18 PM
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Probably one of the best charts to date out there by the OP!

Every last one of those scumbags including the ones pushing the buttons in central banks have
been wrong - obviously. Their lies and negativity ovber the years about Bitcoin have only been
an excersize in protectionism but they couldnt stop Bitcoin.
I see Jamie Dimon in the list at right side, and with Jamie, there is a chart for him.

Jamie is smart because after years of attacking Bitcoin, his bank JP Morgan accepted Bitcoin with many products around Bitcoin.
JPMorgan's Dimon says bitcoin 'is a fraud'
JPMorgan to give all wealth clients access to crypto funds.
Dimon’s many bitcoin moments of regret, in one chart.


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I suspect that some well-known figures or even some publishers are deliberately undermining Bitcoin’s image so they can accumulate more Bitcoin. Or perhaps they are the ones indirectly boosting Bitcoin’s performance by raising public awareness of it. It seems unlikely that some of them would keep talking about Bitcoin nonstop without expecting some benefit. And that makes me even more convinced that they’re hoarding more Bitcoin behind the scenes. I personally have noticed that there aren’t many negative comments about Bitcoin anymore since the United States established its Strategic Bitcoin Reserve. But even if there are more negative comments about Bitcoin then I’m sure there’s an ulterior motive behind them that makes them seem hypocritical.

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We're not new to hearing them call Bitcoin "dead", infact, it's has become part of Bitcoin's cycle but the good thing is at the end, Bitcoin has survived series of negative predictions from these well known figures.

Different events has happened and they concluded it was over but the results... the network kept operating and the market eventually recovered.

I don't even expect any serious Bitcoiner to take the price prediction of these oligarchs serious, those who did in the past missed the bigger picture.

We can't be too sure of what Bitcoin will do in the future but it's history of surviving events that were predicted to be it's end by these notable critics is just getting too hard to ignore.

As always, the chart is there to serve as a reminder that short-term negativity and long-term failure are two very different things.


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What all these people have in common is that they are corrupt oligarchs and/or are members of the Epstein Class who benefit the most from the corrupt financial system that they fully control; which means they hate it when there is an alternative system (ie. Bitcoin) that they cannot control and its adoption means people would get out of their corrupt system. #exit

All these years they've been trying to prevent people from "exiting" their corrupt system.
It seems they are now devising another method to prevent people from escaping from the corrupt system. There is now intensive promotion of centralized platforms like the ETFs. People are now encouraged to keep their coins in the custody of these oligarchs. Most of them are now being deceived into thinking that self-custody is risky. These ignorant people don't know that financial freedom comes from controlling your keys.


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And yet there are still people who continue to believe that Bitcoin will die even though it's clear that Bitcoin continues to grow and is being adopted more widely by individuals and institutions globally.
But that's just how it is, no matter how much Bitcoin grows, there will always be people convinced that Bitcoin will die. They just don't care about how Bitcoin is developing, all they care about is their own beliefs, even though in the end what they're saying is nothing more than just empty talk.

It's strange that they didn't include the head of BlackRock, who also once had negative comments.

Maybe it's because BlackRock already has a Bitcoin ETF so they're not included on the chart, that's probably it.

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It's strange that they didn't include the head of BlackRock, who also once had negative comments.
And as well as Peter Schiff or maybe he has sponsored that graph?  Tongue

There's also Nouriel Roubini who said that Bitcoin was a bubble and only awaits to explode. He's said that on 2021.

It's funny that these people have said everything they have thought of Bitcoin which was negative and yet, the opposite had fulfilled for Bitcoin.
Funny how Peter Schiff made a negative comment about Bitcoin last month, in August. His thoughts about Bitcoin losing over 99% of its market value sound crazy

I don't know how these people who don't believe in Bitcoin actually reason, because something that is widely accepted by millions of people, how would it die? Like the way Bitcoin is disappointing them with their myopic views

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