Do you actually check provably fair results?

[atookz]

I can certainly say that I agree with your point. Most users simply look at the "provably fair" label and assume it is true, without personally verifying the label themselves using a verification tool, since it's tedious and not that easy to understand.

The withdrawals are actually more relevant to real-life experiences. The term provably fair only means that the platform is fair on the algorithmic level; it doesn't necessarily mean the platform is also honest when it comes time to cash out. Common problems include the need to undergo KYC on a sudden basis even though it was chill in the beginning, or the daily limitations on withdrawals making the process time-consuming.

Tbh, I don't really pay attention to the game's fairness. I pay more attention to what other users say about their withdrawal experiences.

[gracreavix]

See, I think for me this is what they can the psychological side of selling a product. If the casinos are using the word probably fair as a selling point to get more customers, it means that stories of them cheating that is casinos have being flying around. So using that word made customers think they are in control. That's just absurd. That's for me. And don't get me wrong, this is just my opinion.

[Zlantann]

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

I have come across a few platforms that offer provably fair checking services. Some of these services are free, while others require subscriptions. I have never tried to use them because I don't think it is necessary. Firstly, I gamble with a small part of my income, so there is no need spending time to check if a casino offers fair games. Another reason is that I don't trust some of these platforms because they might give false results. Lastly, I gamble with casinos I trust; hence, there is no need to scrutinize them.

[Yorubek]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

I think it is the responsibility of the gambler to be aware while gambling. Those who are aware of gambling must check the results themselves after getting the results. Another thing is that all the casinos that are reliable or reputable and have been operating with discipline for a long time never intentionally give full results. If they ever give wrong results, it is unintentional.

When we carefully observe all the rules of the casino, we will definitely understand what steps to take when withdrawing winnings from the casino because the casino has already told us about it. Reputable casinos are completely transparent about their rules and regulations and they will never ask for any additional information from the gambler beyond the rules they have set so that a gambler can be unprepared. If we carefully observe the rules of the casino, we will not have to follow what other people are doing.

[Doan9269]

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

For the little time I have used in playing slots, I don't often check on the results, instead I play to have fun and keep on this each time I'm done bro playing a specific game, to an extent it is on necessary to me to check whether a particular game is provably fair or not, gambling is for entertainment and this is what I always see it as, except on rear occasions where I may decided to check on those things but not with the deliberate act of knowing what actually transpired.

[Itz-prisigold]

If I'm to be honest, I've never really check provably fair results after every bet and I've never think it's important. I am probably more concerned about withdrawing my money without having any problems, and I think that's the main thing that a lot of players are considering. If I bet on a game and at the end of game it doesn't win, I'll just accept it and move on. But seriously fairness of the game is really crucial, even though it is not the only factor.

My problem with most casino is that their withdrawals rules are not always clearly stated and sometimes they mostly ask for KYC information after a player wins, all this can still lead to a bad experience.

[Zwei]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

trust me when i say, not many people check.

i have seen casinos who have been claiming for months that they are provably fair, but it turned out they are not once someone actually did check.

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

that's why you shouldn't trust the marketing talk, and instead check terms and other players reviews, and i mean real reviews, not from shills or some random affiliate ranking site giving them 5 stars.

Do you check the game results

i check before i play any originals, if it's not provably fair i ain't playing.

or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

unresolved scam accusations, reviews, how long they have been around, license info, among a few other things. i don't really care about withdrawal terms since i'm not a high roller.

[BALIK]

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

Of course I pay close attention to player review, our forum threads and withdrawal rule.
Although provably fair games are certainly a great concept. However 99% of people just roll and wait for result. For most people verification tool are just a decorative feature.

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

This is a kind of trap!

As soon as you win substantial amount they will hold up your fund for about week under guise of Security Verification or demand arbitrary KYC documentation. It is best to avoid these casino.

Real test of any casino is when someone can make withdrawal ASAP without any hassle.

[promise444c5]

I’m also guilty of following the crowd on this one.. I’ve never for once try to check or verify anything.. probably because I don’t really play Casino games that much, i don’t think I need to worry much about that specific aspect when most of gambling activities revolves around sports betting.

I do trust the Casinos that I’ve used though..

Nevertheless, I agree that it’s a marketing thing. I can announce that  I have $10k so you can trust me to deposit $5k even though all I truly have is not more than $2k  

[Alphakilo]

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

For the little time I have used in playing slots, I don't often check on the results, instead I play to have fun and keep on this each time I'm done bro playing a specific game, to an extent it is on necessary to me to check whether a particular game is provably fair or not, gambling is for entertainment and this is what I always see it as, except on rear occasions where I may decided to check on those things but not with the deliberate act of knowing what actually transpired.

Many of us are actually guilty of not checking if a game is probably fair or not until it's time for withdrawals and then our eyes open to the reality of what we face, because we were deceived by the marketing hype we saw and couldn't resist trying it out. That's why it's always good to start with small funds that we can afford to lose at the instant.

Those who have had awful experience in this regard will advice to always check the withdrawal rules first before even checking to see if such a casino has a good reputation in the community. For most platforms that don't have community presence, it's only by personal experience we know if such a platform is reputable and one we can stick to or simply blow it off as fake when we can't cashout or withdraw after winning.

[Cantsay]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

Provably fair isn't really something you use all the time, as a matter of fact, there are people who have never made use of that feature since they started gambling.

In most instances, provably fair is used by gamblers who have been gambling for a while and their game has been kinda ugly, and they actually are sceptical that their luck would be so bad to the extent that they would lose such a number of games. That is one of the situations that usually prompts people to actually check whether the casino is actually fair or not. I would rather pay more attention to other players' experience than to focus on the provable fairness of the casino.

[Nwada001]

I don’t check what you just trust blindly, but when a casino talks about "probably fair" too much and uses it as part of their marketing, I always take my time to research about them to see if they have been manipulated, like the ones that have been caught for changing the seed before the game starts.

[rbynxx]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

I did the first time I got yo try it and when I'm satisfied about the outcome I never got to check it again and trust that casino especially if it's already reputed and got back by lot in the community. Well, I usually check it but not to the point of exhaustion that you need to check everything, it's not sustainable and besides this will not be an issue if you're trusting a reputable casino in the first place. I wonder why people trying to spend on new casinos when in fact there's some proven ones that wouldn't let you hassle anything? It's a skill issue I guess.

[famososMuertos]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

Well, you're facing two distinct issues here—not directly related, perhaps, but certainly carrying unavoidable side effects. Regarding PF verification: honestly, I used to do it years ago, but nowadays I don't bother at the casinos I frequent; I don't find it necessary.

Besides, there are always other players doing it, and if they spot something odd, that information becomes relevant. That said, I do verify them when I review new casinos.

As for KYC, it’s arguably just as important as PF verification, though it isn't a mandatory requirement in the same way. They are different processes, and everyone needs to understand them based on their own circumstances—after all, not everyone is making six- or seven-figure deposits or withdrawals, and geographic location plays a role, too, so KYC affects people differently. Ultimately, though, the best approach is to check the T&Cs first.

[MRY]

I don’t check what you just trust blindly, but when a casino talks about "probably fair" too much and uses it as part of their marketing, I always take my time to research about them to see if they have been manipulated, like the ones that have been caught for changing the seed before the game starts.

You will hear lot of fairness slogans that are used as ploy to promote something as sweet as possible but actually have gambling involved. Analysing past performances of cryptographic systems helps prevent going over the wrong numbers in round deliberately set by a player.

The safest remedy is maintaining a diligent attitude to learn to piece together what may have happened to your data seed. Any way, once the algorithm changes in a unilateral manner, that is easy expose if presented by independent audits that have been hired solely for the purpose of making a profit.

[Odogwu-Blockchain]

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

Yes, thank God you also spoke about this particular complaint that many gamblers doesn't take a look at. I always stated, if a casino allows deposit and staking before kyc is a red flag, I don't and won't trust such casinos or I'll be careful especially with newly launched casinos.

Go to the reputation section and see number of complaints about casinos restricting them of their winnings saying kyc not enabled to be completed, denying them of their winnings and stuffs.

[EluguHcman]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

Ask yourself, how do you get convinced that a game os provably fair the you don't even trust the tool being used to do the finding, so how do you really justify your doubt of skepticism.
I think I am tired of this provably fair of the bets outcome and chooses to accept the rhythms of entertainments that the moments of the game comes with.

I don't bother stressing on whether the site is fair or not in their bets outcome.
I have also come to understand that the craziest moments we have this thought about the casinos provably like this is usually when lost games that we feel too confident about and then it fails.
Then you begin to feel skeptical about the result provider.

[danherbias07]

I check the game results by playing them. I don't really look at the provably fair percentage or the number, but I do like looking at the volatility of the game. This is also important because it will tell us how difficult it will be to win at a certain game.

Call me crazy, but I do like experiencing the game first. I do not even use the demo mode because I feel like there's no thrill when there's no surprise that will happen. If there's a new slot game, I prefer playing them than understanding the mechanics of the game or the house edge first. In 100 spins, I think it will be easy to understand, and games like slots are not made to be complicated.

[Nrcewker]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

Obviously we dont have time to check if the games are fair every day, especially after each bet. I only check whether my bets are fair or not if I encounter a big loss. If I see that a particular pattern is being followed to make me lose then I dig deeper into the fairness of the game. But yes as Yahoo said, its better to deposit and play at reputable casinos rather than checking the fairness of new casinos and then depositing and playing.

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

Regarding KYC, I mostly prefer no KYC casinos but if the casino is exceptionally good with games, features and bonuses then I dont mind sudden KYC checks that only require my ID card to verify me.

[Swordsoffreedom]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

In any standard commit and reveal system, casino first reveals hash of the server seed and later reveal seed. Since hash is revealed beforehand, so it is possible to verify whether casino has subsequently changed server seed.
We can then verify result by matching hash and re-performing same calculation.

1. The "provably fair" system verifies nothing about fairness
BetFury publishes a hash and later reveals a "random seed". The seed format is:

Code:

<result>_<random padding>
Limbo:  1.91_XiLQkYQZxcwNxF        -> result 1.91x
Dice:   52_FcqvWBAQrkwQbZ          -> roll 52

(Those are literally rows 1 of the published datasets — check them yourself.)
The "seed" already contains the finished result. The verifier hashes the answer to confirm the answer didn't change. There is no client seed, no nonce, no published derivation formula, and no way to replay a bet. Nothing upstream of the finished result — no draw, no formula, no odds — is ever shown.

Look at this incident,

Limbo result here is 1.91. This mean that by verifying hash, we can be certain that string was not altered subsequently. However we cannot verify which random input produced that 1.91 result.
So, with Provably Fair we might be able to verify that the answer was not changed.
However this does not prove that answer was generated fairly.

So this alone is not enough for any casino to be considered legitimate.