Do you actually check provably fair results?

[Cointxz]

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

Both provably fair and site withdrawal reliability are important but you raised a valid point here that every good feature is useless if you can’t withdraw the funds.

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

No because normally I play fast phase games like Plinko when playing provably fair games on casino which there’s no way I can manually verify each of my bet.

@Yahoo answer is the best here, just choose the trusted casino so that you will not be wary for the fairness of game result.

[Somegory]

Just use a reputable online casino and you will be good, no panic needs about if a game is provably fair or if the casino will let you withdraw after you won some money, online casinos like Bitz, Roobet,  Stake, Rollbit are reliable.

There are many others too, it's why using the forum to pick your next online casino is safer compared to someone who likes risking their money on a online casino that's less known or available on this forum.

I've never run into such problems, I do lose like others but I also have my luck days too, I am satisfied with online casinos on this forum so far.

[Emjay24]

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

Although I know for one how important it is to check, but I really don't see it as a priority to start verifying my bets. I come to the casino to have fun, and verifying bets is much of a task for me, so I don't do it. I prioritize good user experience, good GUI for the games since a good presentation and animation is my thing. We already know most casinos would require KYC at some certain point, the NO KYC is just a marketing stunt which a lot of us have come to observe anytime we read the terms of service, so as long as my withdrawals are not delayed unnecessarily, I'm good.

[Awaklara]

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

Although I know for one how important it is to check, but I really don't see it as a priority to start verifying my bets. I come to the casino to have fun, and verifying bets is much of a task for me, so I don't do it. I prioritize good user experience, good GUI for the games since a good presentation and animation is my thing. We already know most casinos would require KYC at some certain point, the NO KYC is just a marketing stunt which a lot of us have come to observe anytime we read the terms of service, so as long as my withdrawals are not delayed unnecessarily, I'm good.

We know that most gamblers indeed do not check bets, especially those who play in casinos they consider reputable.
Regarding KYC, if the requested data is still within normal limits, it should not be a problem for gamblers to make withdrawals. But if the casino has already requested more detailed data such as the source of funds, I think that is excessive for a non-KYC casino.
Many gamblers will trust reputable casinos more than new casinos. That is why not many check their bets.

[Outhue]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

A casino asking you to pass KYC verification is not the same as provably fair of their games, you are talking about two different things, it's possible to not trust AA casino anymore because they ask for KYC verification after you won some money but that provably fair statement is for casino games.

A fair game is something that's balanced between the house and the gamblers, a casino game that's suspicious are those that aren't fair, no matter how many times, days or weeks you play them you won't win anything back, provably fair games are from game providers and that's why some gamblers choose to look into game providers more, like pragmatic play for example.

[Ishicryptic]

I’m also guilty of following the crowd on this one.. I’ve never for once try to check or verify anything.. probably because I don’t really play Casino games that much, i don’t think I need to worry much about that specific aspect when most of gambling activities revolves around sports betting.

I do trust the Casinos that I’ve used though..

Nevertheless, I agree that it’s a marketing thing. I can announce that  I have $10k so you can trust me to deposit $5k even though all I truly have is not more than $2k  

I believe that most of us that are casual gamblers don't bother to check provably fair results, what we look out for are reputable casinos which a lot of experienced and professional gamblers trust to be legit and endorse. I use small amounts to gamble for entertainment so I don't bother with a lot of things that serious gamblers do, aside from not checking provably fair I also don't track my wins and losses. I agree that probably fair is a part of advertisement to tell gamblers that they can be trusted but I don't take a casino's word, what I look out for is gamblers experience in their site.

[abaeze]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

In fact, most of us never check after betting even though we notice the word "provably fair," but it should be done. Because the question arises when KYC becomes mandatory at the time of withdrawal and at this time fair play also goes against provably fair.

So the biggest question for me is what happens at the time of withdrawal. If the withdrawal rules are unclear or you cannot find out about KYC or deposit withdrawal before playing, then it is better not to play on that platform. However, if you want to test the casino site, then you can verify with a small amount whether you will continue in their casino or not.

[Ruttoshi]

The fact is that, how many of us really check for provably fairness in a casino by checking the hash server seed before betting, I don't even know how to verify it. I have never thought of this before neither do I know about it not until, I came to this forum. So, with that mindset, I don't bother of forcing myself to know if a casino is probably fair or not.

If I like the casino, I just register and play for testing. If the casino is reputable and everything went smoothly in the first experience. I will start using that casino.

[TedMosby]

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For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.
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IMO, povably fair is just a gimmick. If it's truly fair, then martingale is the perfect strategy to beat a casino as long as you start low and have enough money to double your bet till you win. The reality is, many people who tried martingale have experienced long losing streaks. IMO, provably fair is more for licensing needs, because casinos should have provably fair games to get a gambling license. Provably fair -> for licensing. Withdrawal -> depends on the casino itself.

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Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

I pay more attention to withdrawals and my personal experience, such as my winning rate. As long as it's still paying, there's a high chance I will still play there. If I also had a good run there, I will definitely stick to that casino.




BTW, I think we already have enough discussion about provably fair on this board. Here are other topics about provably fair. I hope others can check these topics first before making a new one.

Can Provably Fair games still be rigged?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5591606

Is provably fair really real?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5589268

How FAIR are those provably fair games?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1189013

"Provably Fair": How Fair & Provable is it?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184988

Provably Fair- How Can You Know?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484319

Do you verify every bet as a gambler? Provably Fair Guide
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227525

[YellowSwap]

No I don't bother to check for provably fair results, because ....

I am just too busy to be trying all I can to win from a casino.
I use the most trusted online casinos so I believe I am in good hands.

If a online casino is cheating, someone will figure it out and raise the alarm, others will join later..
It can't be just one person that a fraudulent casino is cheating.

I also spend too less money to be thinking if online casino that I am currently using is provably fair or not.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

No I don't, I'm actually too lazy to dedicate extra strength and time to verifying my bets while it doesn't necessarily put food on my table. Any money I throw into the casino is considered lost, unless somehow I manage to make some profits and withdraw. I think casinos know that a lot of people don't verify their bets and some can even be hiding under the "Provably fair" banner and offering heavily manipulated games. I don't mind trusting few reputable casinos for just few tens of dollars I wager there weekly, maybe those who gamble for profits might be more interested in verifying their bets.

About withdrawal terms, always expect KYC as long as there is such clause in their T&C, they are right anytime they wish to initiate it, after all you play by their rules and not yours.

[Odohu]

I have not checked provably fair result of any casino before and that is because I use the reputation of the casino based on how they are conducting their business. This method is easy and can be done by simply following the ANN thread discussion of the casino and also paying attention to the scam accusation board. If the platform is new, I usually start with small deposits so that I don't get my money exposed and depending on the experience I gather from playing with the small deposit I will know if to make more deposits.   

[Alex077]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.
For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.
Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

I think most gamblers never actually verify their results using provably fair, even when the casino gives them that option. Usually, people just trust the system until something really unusual happens. Of course, having the ability to verify the results is useful, but it only proves that a particular game result was fair and nothing more. For me, the withdrawal terms are definitely much more important.

So before making a deposit, I would pay much more attention to the casino’s withdrawal history, complaints from other players, KYC terms, and withdrawal limits. Provably fair is a nice extra, but it doesn’t guarantee that the casino itself will treat players fairly.

[liasbaa]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

No one feels the need to check the bet after the game is over. The result is in front of your eyes and luck may not have been on your side or you may not have analyzed it well. It was necessary to emphasize how to do the kyc verification process in casinos in the next step after signup. It is necessary to know the details of withdrawing money in the casino precisely because some casinos do not allow you to withdraw money unless you have deposited a certain amount. I give the most importance to what kind of conditions are strict in the casino and which part of the casino is more uncomfortable for experienced gamblers.

[Finebone]

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

Yes of course, I check my game to know if I won or loss, and as a matter of fact, I sometimes follow up the result live, when the game is on, because I only bet on sport, so after the end of the game or during the game is when I will be aware of the final outcome of my bet.

I don't give a f***** of other people's experiences when gambling because it's not important, what I pay more attention to before I even start gambling is their withdrawal terms, because I don't have that strength to start fighting with any casino for my money, in case I won a bet.

[ruykeri]

Those who regularly bet on casino games, the Provably Fair feature may be important. But for those who regularly bet on sports, checking how quickly the casino site provides withdrawals and how good the reputation of that site is is more important. To me, it is important to have the Provably Fair feature to prove that a casino site is good for overall users, and besides the hassle of KYC, such negative activities as unwanted temporary blocking of the account or problems with withdrawal should also be eliminated. those who regularly play casino games, I don't think they check much through this feature. In aggressive emotional moments, there is no time to check these things.  if there is such transparency in casino sites, their users will definitely increase. Because now so many scam sites have been created, where people have enough interest in reputed casino sites.

[KiaKia]

The fact is that, how many of us really check for provably fairness in a casino by checking the hash server seed before betting, I don't even know how to verify it. I have never thought of this before neither do I know about it not until, I came to this forum. So, with that mindset, I don't bother of forcing myself to know if a casino is probably fair or not.

If I like the casino, I just register and play for testing. If the casino is reputable and everything went smoothly in the first experience. I will start using that casino.

I have never bothered myself about this provably fair thing, I've never tried to check if the online casino I am using is provably fairness through hash server or whatever, I have read ways to verify it online but I've never tried it out.

The thing is I don't feel left out to be able to try to verify casinos provably fairness, I don't need to, I've had amazing time on Rainbet and Rollbit and till this day i don't feel like I am missing out on that part.

Reputation is everything, many questions will develop in your mind if you feel like a casino isn't provably fair after using the casino for a long time, I never had such feelings.

[xenomorfo]

Those who regularly bet on casino games, the Provably Fair feature may be important. But for those who regularly bet on sports, checking how quickly the casino site provides withdrawals and how good the reputation of that site is is more important. To me, it is important to have the Provably Fair feature to prove that a casino site is good for overall users, and besides the hassle of KYC, such negative activities as unwanted temporary blocking of the account or problems with withdrawal should also be eliminated. those who regularly play casino games, I don't think they check much through this feature. In aggressive emotional moments, there is no time to check these things.  if there is such transparency in casino sites, their users will definitely increase. Because now so many scam sites have been created, where people have enough interest in reputed casino sites.

I would say much more importantly, i play to pass the time but at least i must be aware of playing in a game where i can win or lose.
If i play a game where i can only lose, i don't have any fun.
At least this is true for me.

[pawanjain]

I keep seeing “provably fair” listed as a big selling point for crypto casinos, but I’m curious how many people actually check their bets afterward. I’ve never seen anyone explain a result they verified themselves.

For me, the bigger question is what happens when it’s time to withdraw. A fair game doesn’t help much if the withdrawal rules are unclear or you only find out about KYC after winning.

Do you check the game results, or do you pay more attention to withdrawal terms and other players’ experiences?

That's a good question though. As much as provably fair system is considered, implementing and verifying is fine but the willingness to actually verify if the system is provably fair is what we should be asking to ourself.
I don't think many people would be doing this. In fact, I don't do it myself and the reason is quite simple.
I play for fun and entertainment and bet with very low amount so that I can gamble longer.
The money I lose, I consider it as a fee for having the fun and thrill while gambling and so I don't really check if the system is provably fair but still prefer playing where the site do have a provable fair system.

[hmbdofficial]

I think for the casinos it will be almost impossible to check for a provably fair result just because the results are randomly generated and you don’t even get to know what happened behind the scenes. But for sport bettor it’s can actually be identified if the game is settled wrongly or not.
I’ve personally encountered a situation where my game were settled wrongly and I made complaint after it was reviewed the result was updated and the lost ticket became won, so since then I always check to confirm if the results were settled correctly or not.

There are also some options people bet on and they probably do not have much knowledge on the sport, there some games can be settled wrongly too because you’re actually placing a blind bet.