Brazil's Lula bans online gambling. Describes it as "cancer"

[Hispo]

This looks to me more like a political move than a measure to prevent gambling in the country.
Calling it a cancer and trying to ban it upright without refunding license fees to the casino site owners is completely wrong.
We all know that those football teams are dependent on such casino sites for sponsors and this news will definitely impact them.

The government of Brazil and Lula seem to be aware of the dependency of Football clubs of gambling and betting sponsorships, so Lula has alledgelly proposed to give credits to those small and medium sized football clubs in order for them to continue to be in business and not to cut programs funded by them.

And I agree with you, this is rather just a political move by Lula to secure more votes in the coming elections. He seems to be desperate.

At the very least, there should be massive refunds to casinos and bookies who paid for their licenses to be able to legally operate in Brazil.

This may be possible because government agencies also participate in such businesses, some secretly and some openly, there is no grantee of this. Because the way fans come to Brazil, it can be felt that so much money is invested in football. Brazil must want to gain an old name in football so that it becomes a famous country in football or sports. Football has become very famous and whoever works hard to make a name here or improves his team by investing money also succeeds in it. Fans are a very important thing because if a team has to be run and to cover all its expenses, the investor has to give as many funds as possible and when there is an income in winning, funds are also collected from there and income is also earned.

I am aware of the importance football has in Brazil. It is the national sport there and Brazil is also world famous thanks to their past performances in World Cups.
That is why one could have assumed they are closed intertwined with betting and gambling, it would be very strange to have a Football capital of the world not to allow their own citizens to bet in football at all.

Also, I don't have any information on agencies participating in gambling or betting, it would be a sign of heavy corruption in the administration of Lula. And also quite ironic, considering the speech if him when comes to gambling and betting. Calling both cancer...

[pawanjain]

This looks to me more like a political move than a measure to prevent gambling in the country.
Calling it a cancer and trying to ban it upright without refunding license fees to the casino site owners is completely wrong.
We all know that those football teams are dependent on such casino sites for sponsors and this news will definitely impact them.

The government of Brazil and Lula seem to be aware of the dependency of Football clubs of gambling and betting sponsorships, so Lula has alledgelly proposed to give credits to those small and medium sized football clubs in order for them to continue to be in business and not to cut programs funded by them.

And I agree with you, this is rather just a political move by Lula to secure more votes in the coming elections. He seems to be desperate.

At the very least, there should be massive refunds to casinos and bookies who paid for their licenses to be able to legally operate in Brazil.

If Lula is doing it for the votes then I think it's a very bad move. Instead of getting votes this might backfire on him.
This is simply like threatening football clubs and their supporters to vote for Lula but what if the opposite happens ?
He might lose his position and may be the new president allows gambling sites to operate again.

[Hispo]

This looks to me more like a political move than a measure to prevent gambling in the country.
Calling it a cancer and trying to ban it upright without refunding license fees to the casino site owners is completely wrong.
We all know that those football teams are dependent on such casino sites for sponsors and this news will definitely impact them.

The government of Brazil and Lula seem to be aware of the dependency of Football clubs of gambling and betting sponsorships, so Lula has alledgelly proposed to give credits to those small and medium sized football clubs in order for them to continue to be in business and not to cut programs funded by them.

And I agree with you, this is rather just a political move by Lula to secure more votes in the coming elections. He seems to be desperate.

At the very least, there should be massive refunds to casinos and bookies who paid for their licenses to be able to legally operate in Brazil.

If Lula is doing it for the votes then I think it's a very bad move. Instead of getting votes this might backfire on him.
This is simply like threatening football clubs and their supporters to vote for Lula but what if the opposite happens ?
He might lose his position and may be the new president allows gambling sites to operate again.

I believe Lulas movement to ban gambling in Brazil could actually backfire against him because he's doing this after he tried to regulate gambling within the country. So it shows that hes actually doing it for his political sake and not because he actually cares. Otherwise, he would have not taken the measures to regulate gambling in the first place. On the other hand, I believe his political foe Bolsonaro, actually is in favor of gambling and in personal liberty unlike Lula.

[stompix]

Man, If I hear one more time this thing about football needing casinos as sponsors...I'm going to puke...

Brazil was world champion last time in 2002!
Since then, when gambling has taken over as sponsors of the clubs it has managed a 4th place in 2014 at home!!!, quarter-finals in 2018 and 2022 and r16 last championship, it's the worst streak in their entire football history!

So no, you don't need money from gambling to have a strong team, nor do you need it to have strong football players, football was perfectly ok before this thing started , all it lead to was to huge wages for players that are nowhere near as good as their predecessors and shady deals after shady deals.
F**8 shit, Barcelona won La Liga and they won the Champions League with a UNICEF logo on their shirts while donating money!

[alegotardo]

Man, If I hear one more time this thing about football needing casinos as sponsors...I'm going to puke...

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I agree!
The clubs started depending of this money because they accepted increasingly larger contracts and built their budgets counting with this industry that profits a lot from bets, but that does not make online cassinos indispensable, it only proves that the clubs chose what was more convenient and profitable because online casinos also noticed that gambling with soccer was a growing sector in Brazil.

But there are other paths, more complicated, more laborious, but also fully viable.... revenue by ticket sales, television, fan memberships, young player development, sale of broadcasting rights, sponsorship from other companies that lost space in football to cassinos. And obviously the clubs will also need to go back to doing something they always did before: having responsible management!

It was good while it lasted, but the "easy money" does not last forever, Brazilian football will survive!
And I hope that Carlo Ancelotti finds a viable path for us to lift the trophy at the next FIFA World Cup.

[danadc]

I believe Lulas movement to ban gambling in Brazil could actually backfire against him because he's doing this after he tried to regulate gambling within the country. So it shows that hes actually doing it for his political sake and not because he actually cares. Otherwise, he would have not taken the measures to regulate gambling in the first place. On the other hand, I believe his political foe Bolsonaro, actually is in favor of gambling and in personal liberty unlike Lula.

That’s true; I see these things as political moves, and politicians prioritize whatever suits them best. Besides, it’s hard to ban betting in a country where soccer is the biggest sport it doesn't look good. Freedoms shouldn't be suppressed by a leader who who knows?might have some vested interest in banning sports betting and casinos.

The whole "protecting people from addiction" argument is worn out; they can't use that anymore. People aren't stupid they know it's really about personal interests.

[Hispo]

I believe Lulas movement to ban gambling in Brazil could actually backfire against him because he's doing this after he tried to regulate gambling within the country. So it shows that hes actually doing it for his political sake and not because he actually cares. Otherwise, he would have not taken the measures to regulate gambling in the first place. On the other hand, I believe his political foe Bolsonaro, actually is in favor of gambling and in personal liberty unlike Lula.

That’s true; I see these things as political moves, and politicians prioritize whatever suits them best. Besides, it’s hard to ban betting in a country where soccer is the biggest sport it doesn't look good. Freedoms shouldn't be suppressed by a leader who who knows?might have some vested interest in banning sports betting and casinos.

The whole "protecting people from addiction" argument is worn out; they can't use that anymore. People aren't stupid they know it's really about personal interests.

I completely agree and I believe that the pursuit to ban gambling and betting from Brazil, it is rather about personal interest of his president.

 I could bet that if this wasn't an electoral year in Brazil, Lula da Silva wouldn't care too much about banning gambling and betting in Brazil. Also, what you say is right.

Brazil is one of the leading countries when comes to football in the world, definitely in the Americas. It sounds silly to try to ban betting in a country which is very known worldwide because of football.

[Zaka1221]

I believe Lulas movement to ban gambling in Brazil could actually backfire against him because he's doing this after he tried to regulate gambling within the country. So it shows that hes actually doing it for his political sake and not because he actually cares. Otherwise, he would have not taken the measures to regulate gambling in the first place. On the other hand, I believe his political foe Bolsonaro, actually is in favor of gambling and in personal liberty unlike Lula.

Today is election day in Brazil. With this drastic change, it is going to be favorable for Lula's opponent because he needs to have a strong stance on regulating gambling instead of now suddenly going to ban it; it's surely going to be not easy for them due to many reasons. Brazil is a well-populated country with a good chance of having revenue from the regulation of gambling. They are also having enough potential, but things need a good approach.

Lula da Silva this blunder is going to be big trouble for him because mostly peoples done mistakes and then have consequences same happening to him due to sudden change of this Bolsonaro surely giving tight challenge for today election and few points are now going to be favorable for him if he is having enough approach he surely can bring good changes in coming days if he is going to be win.

[Hispo]

I believe Lulas movement to ban gambling in Brazil could actually backfire against him because he's doing this after he tried to regulate gambling within the country. So it shows that hes actually doing it for his political sake and not because he actually cares. Otherwise, he would have not taken the measures to regulate gambling in the first place. On the other hand, I believe his political foe Bolsonaro, actually is in favor of gambling and in personal liberty unlike Lula.

Today is election day in Brazil. With this drastic change, it is going to be favorable for Lula's opponent because he needs to have a strong stance on regulating gambling instead of now suddenly going to ban it; it's surely going to be not easy for them due to many reasons. Brazil is a well-populated country with a good chance of having revenue from the regulation of gambling. They are also having enough potential, but things need a good approach.

Lula da Silva this blunder is going to be big trouble for him because mostly peoples done mistakes and then have consequences same happening to him due to sudden change of this Bolsonaro surely giving tight challenge for today election and few points are now going to be favorable for him if he is having enough approach he surely can bring good changes in coming days if he is going to be win.

To be honest, I would have also expected Lula to try to imprison Bolsonaro before he was able to become the president of the country (in the case of a Bolsonaro victory). As far as I understand, Lula tried to indict Bolsonaro for allegedly being anti-democracy of something like that, but it seems he was not sucessful in doing that and preventing him from running for the presidency of the country again.

In my opinion, there is quite an indirect link between gambling and democracy, personal freedom and other western values.

[asriloni]

I’m going to mention something really interesting here
This very famous news site in Brazil ran a news identifying nearly 700 “illegal” betting sites that were created right after the ban 
The article was updated yesterday, and we’re already seeing more reports that even more sites are being created for people to bet on

It simply had the opposite effect of what they imagined, and the demand is still there

Here’s the source of the article
https://g1.globo.com/jornal-nacional/noticia/2026/09/29/quase-700-bets-ilegais-foram-criadas-depois-da-proibicao-anunciada-pelo-governo-aponta-levantamento.ghtml
it’s in Brazilian Portuguese, but if you’re interested, you can easily translate it

Sure, it's pretty similar to the case mentioned in the different thread about the total amounts of money from EU went to the offshore was surging a lot. Stricting or banning the gambling site is not solving anything. It's only forcing to gamblers leave from their comfort zone, then looking for offshore place to gamble.



It seems Lula's ban on gambling is affecting his voting result a bit, but Bolsonaro is still winning the first round. Nevertheless, Bolsonaro fails to reach 50% threeshold, and we're going to the 2nd round.