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Today at 06:38:20 AM
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You should've added something about Bitcoin mining polluting the environment. I don't remember any particular insult towards Bitcoin, but I'm sure that the environmentalists have criticized and hated Bitcoin more than once for the "environmental damage" caused by Bitcoin mining.
Another popular criticism was Bitcoin mining "wasting electricity". That electricity could've been used for something productive, instead of mining coins. Grin

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Today at 07:20:12 AM
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Did some research and zeroed in on Jack Ma praising the blockchain while speculating that BTC itself could be a bubble.

https://www.financialexpress.com/market/jack-ma-embraces-blockchain-for-ant-financial-but-warns-of-bitcoin-bubble-1219324/

There's also Trump and Musk talking smack about BTC at different timeperiods, but I felt that Jack Ma's bubble statement was more interesting in comparison.

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Today at 07:46:03 AM
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There's also Trump and Musk talking smack about BTC at different timeperiods, but I felt that Jack Ma's bubble statement was more interesting in comparison.
Trump in 2021 called Bitcoin like this "It just seems like a scam". 2 years later when he needed supporters and voters for his Presidential propaganda and President Election in the USA in late 2023, he turned to support and be pro-Bitcoin.

Believe him or not, you can think about possibly conflict of interest but I don't believe all his sayings while with Bitcoin, I believe he already saw huge potential to get richer with Bitcoin. At national administration scale, supporting Bitcoin or not, it's another thing and only Trump can not do everything even if he actually want to do that.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6257768965001

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Today at 07:48:57 AM
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You should've added something about Bitcoin mining polluting the environment.
I know my opinion is a bit unpopular here, but I think in this kind of criticism there is a bit of truth, because Bitcoin mining could be powered with an even higher percentage of renewables / nuclear. Today, 60% renewables + nuclear is not a particularly high proportion. If Bitcoin was mined only in a country like Brazil it would have a much more "climate friendly" footprint.

But the variant of this "criticism" I consider definitely wrong was the campaign by Greenpeace "Clean up Bitcoin" ("Change the code, not the climate"), where they called for an introduction of PoS instead of PoW. Somebody should have explained them that PoS is a more traditional system where some trust is required in the nodes you download the blockchain from ("weak subjectivity") and thus the system has different vulnerabilities and is systematically more centralized and less censorship resistant ...

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Today at 08:24:35 AM
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I know my opinion is a bit unpopular here, but I think in this kind of criticism there is a bit of truth, because Bitcoin mining could be powered with an even higher percentage of renewables / nuclear. Today, 60% renewables + nuclear is not a particularly high proportion. If Bitcoin was mined only in a country like Brazil it would have a much more "climate friendly" footprint.
Countries have very different energy resources and with different support or anti Bitcoin policies, Bitcoin mining will be able to operate legally, and possible to use more or less climatic friendly energy resources. Bhutan has their national and governmental investment into Bitcoin mining with energy from hydropower, and they have reasons to do that with abundant hydropower in their nation.

Other nations might have less "climatic friendly" energy resources and their governments might be more anti-Bitcoin, and these things are barriers for Bitcoin mining as well as which energy resources to be used.

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But the variant of this "criticism" I consider definitely wrong was the campaign by Greenpeace "Clean up Bitcoin" ("Change the code, not the climate"), where they called for an introduction of PoS instead of PoW. Somebody should have explained them that PoS is a more traditional system where some trust is required in the nodes you download the blockchain from ("weak subjectivity") and thus the system has different vulnerabilities and is systematically more centralized and less censorship resistant ...
PoS will make things centralized, and I dislike this proposal. I believe people who are in Bitcoin community a long time enough will know PoW is an important contributor of Bitcoin decentralization, and they also dislike PoS proposal.

End the fud: PoW vs PoS?

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Today at 08:43:53 AM
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Quote from: windpath
What I'm asking for:
1. Claims we missed, especially from 2010 to 2014.
3. The ones that were partly right. Exchanges do collapse, privacy is worse than the marketing, mining did centralize for a stretch.

One big one from 2014 that come to mind is the GHash.io 51% mining takeover panic.

Back in June 2014 when GHash.io crossed 51% of the network hashrate, tech media ran headlines declaring that Proof of Work was broken and Bitcoin's decentralization was officially dead. Alex Hern at The Guardian published "Bitcoin currency could have been destroyed by '51%' attack" on June 16, 2014, and Leonid Bershidsky at Bloomberg followed up on July 17 with "Trust Will Kill Bitcoin", arguing that Bitcoin still relied on human trust just like fiat.

What makes this claim fit your list so well is that the danger was partly real. A single pool actually did touch the 51% threshold for a brief window. But instead of an attack or a total collapse, game theory held up—individual miners realized that killing confidence would crater the value of their own coins, so they voluntarily pointed hash away from GHash and the pool ended up capping itself. Definitely one of the best examples of a structural critique that looked fatal on paper but worked itself out through economic incentives.
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Today at 10:06:17 AM
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I can remember in 2021, my family members calling Bitcoin a "burble waiting to get burst" and after that the whole crypto space started to pump massively in January and February of 2021 and later the bear market came then they started to rejoice.

They thought it was the final for Bitcoin and 2022 bear market proved that right for a while, they have no idea how crypto market works, and then Trump came into the scene, started talking about Bitcoin and they kept shut.

It was at that moment they knew they have messed up, there is a saying that if you can't beat them you will have to join them, they don't understand this method, they choose to wait and see you fail.

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If you look closely, you’ll realize that the reason why some labels probably became misleading was simply because technology changed after the claim was made. For example, “never usable for a coffee” depends heavily on which part of Bitcoin’s infrastructure the person is actually talking about and when. So that means the date is equally very important, because a statement can actually sound reasonable at one stage, but suddenly becomes outdated and irrelevant after a few years as the ecosystem develops.

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Today at 11:50:46 AM
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People have called Bitcoin several names; the same applies to the government, because they also attack it in several places, and it is still banned in some countries. You will hear them say words like Bitcoin is like a bubble about to burst.

While our pride is not in all what they have said but in what we have seen bitcoin to remain ever committed to it network protocol, not only this but also serving beyond our expectation on different areas, and Bitcoin is being made applicable for our use.

Individuals who once criticized bitcoin are now among those showing great interest in it, including government officials who view bitcoin as a threat that could stop citizens from using their national currency. These same officials have begun investing in bitcoin after stealing public funds. In my country, many people don’t believe bitcoin before they see it as a fraudulent investment and going so far as to warn others against investing, claiming that you could lose your money in a single day.

There was a time that someone told me that bitcoin is not for poor people, because the price is too much and no one know how it works, he was saying that just because i don’t know anything about bitcoin, i didn’t believe him because i know that those who are investing in bitcoin are the same human like me, so there is no need to fear, don’t let anyone to make you feel like you can not do it and don’t listen to what they say, and I believe those who criticized bitcoin have learned their lesson because bitcoin have prove them wrong many times.

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Today at 12:21:43 PM
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If you look closely, you’ll realize that the reason why some labels probably became misleading was simply because technology changed after the claim was made. For example, “never usable for a coffee” depends heavily on which part of Bitcoin’s infrastructure the person is actually talking about and when. So that means the date is equally very important, because a statement can actually sound reasonable at one stage, but suddenly becomes outdated and irrelevant after a few years as the ecosystem develops.

Good opinion but Bitcoin was created as a means of carry out transaction and was proven few years after creation, when Laszlo Hanyecz bought two pizzas for10,000 Bitcoin. Although the time the statement was made matters cause maybe no one was ready to trade Bitcoins for coffee like Laszio did in 2010.

If it were recently or even early close to 2020, i don't think people would believe such except those who're ignorant. We'll see more conspiracies about Bitcoin on the long run but like the previous ones they'll likely turn out wrong later.

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Quote from: d5000 link=topic=5595455.msg67193237#msg67193237
One I remember, in particular from the 2016-18 era when altcoins had their first major boom, is "obsolete". There was a time where several journalists wrote that Bitcoin was too slow, too expensive (regarding fees) and too conservative, and that in a few years (or even a few months) it would be "flipped" by Ethereum or another altcoin.
Quote from: Haunebu link=topic=5595455.msg67193817#msg67193817
Did some research and zeroed in on Jack Ma praising the blockchain while speculating that BTC itself could be a bubble.
These two belong together and I had neither. "Obsolete" gets its own entry, and so does "blockchain, not Bitcoin," with Jack Ma in 2018 and the NYT piece as the receipts. They're also the easiest kind to check, since a prediction that something will be overtaken within a few years comes with its own deadline. d5000, if the Sascha Lobo article ever turns up I'd like it, a well-informed tech writer picking Hashgraph in 2017 is a better example than another columnist who never looked.

Quote from: Darker45 link=topic=5595455.msg67193504#msg67193504
He made fun of Bitcoin in May of 2018 on CNBC's Squawk Box calling it "pure 'greater fool theory' type of investment." He even added that he'd short it if there was an easy way to.
That's the dated source the greater fool entry was missing. Somebody on the Reddit thread raised the label yesterday but with no name attached. Gates, CNBC, 7 May 2018, two days after Buffett's rat poison line at the same Berkshire weekend. If you can find the Medalla interview I'll add him too, a central bank governor saying it is worth more than another investor saying it.

Quote from: pooya87 link=topic=5595455.msg67193563#msg67193563
Also I think Mike Hearn's thing requires a separate field not be part of other "bitcoin is dead" nonsense. Because this one was significant. He was one of the core developers of bitcoin and he sold all his bitcoins (in 2016 I think) and went viral by saying "bitcoin is a failed experiment".
Agreed, and he's moving. January 14, 2016, at about $430. He won't sit with the columnists. The chapter has a second half for claims tied to a specific event, "it can't come back from this," and Hearn goes there under the block size fight, because he wasn't wrong that there was a real problem. He was wrong that it couldn't be resolved. We covered how it was in the block size war chapter.

Quote from: matrixx link=topic=5595455.msg67193977#msg67193977
Back in June 2014 when GHash.io crossed 51% of the network hashrate, tech media ran headlines declaring that Proof of Work was broken and Bitcoin's decentralization was officially dead.
Good one, and it goes in the same section as Hearn. It's also the right shape for the list because the danger was real, one pool did touch a majority, and what fixed it was miners leaving. I'll check the Guardian and Bloomberg pieces against the dates you gave before they go in.

Quote from: davis196 link=topic=5595455.msg67193722#msg67193722
You should've added something about Bitcoin mining polluting the environment.
Quote from: d5000 link=topic=5595455.msg67193881#msg67193881
I know my opinion is a bit unpopular here, but I think in this kind of criticism there is a bit of truth, because Bitcoin mining could be powered with an even higher percentage of renewables / nuclear. [...] But the variant of this "criticism" I consider definitely wrong was the campaign by Greenpeace "Clean up Bitcoin" ("Change the code, not the climate")
It's on the list as "boiling the oceans," with the Newsweek headline from December 2017 that had mining using all the world's energy by 2020. But d5000's split is the right way to write the entry and I'm going to use it. The general criticism is partly true and our energy chapter says so. The Greenpeace campaign is the version that was wrong, because it asked for a change that would have removed the thing the energy is buying.

Quote from: Catenaccio link=topic=5595455.msg67193873#msg67193873
Trump in 2021 called Bitcoin like this "It just seems like a scam".
He goes in with Dimon under people who reversed, with the two dates and the two quotes and no commentary. Whether any of them changed their minds or just their interests isn't something the chapter can know.

Quote from: Dave1 link=topic=5595455.msg67193615#msg67193615
How about Peter Schiff's
Schiff gets the same treatment as Buffett, a run of dated quotes rather than one line, because he's been at it longer than anyone. What I'm short of is the early ones. If anybody has a Schiff call from 2013 or 2014 with a link, that's what I need.

Quote from: L E G E N D A R Y link=topic=5595455.msg67194181#msg67194181
So that means the date is equally very important, because a statement can actually sound reasonable at one stage, but suddenly becomes outdated and irrelevant after a few years as the ecosystem develops.
Yes, and that's a fair correction to how I wrote the first post. "Never usable for a coffee" was a reasonable thing to say in 2015. Every entry will carry its date and say what kind of claim it was, so something that was true when it was said doesn't get scored the same as a prediction that missed.

Quote from: HajiBagi link=topic=5595455.msg67194405#msg67194405
There was a time that someone told me that bitcoin is not for poor people, because the price is too much
That one is small but it's probably the most common of all of them, and nobody famous said it so it never makes these lists. It'll get a line, pointing at the units chapter.

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You can find many things from these following resources and perhaps will find something you have missed so far.
Thank you, I'll go through all of them, the Thai honey thread especially. uchegod-21, the tax evasion one is covered by a Roubini quote from 2018 that aoluain supplied, the "next Swiss bank account" line.

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This has turned into a very informative thread, thank you all and keep it coming!!!



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Today at 06:47:25 PM
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Dimon, the head of one of the most corrupt banks in the world, called bitcoin "fraud".

Also I think Mike Hearn's thing requires a separate field not be part of other "bitcoin is dead" nonsense. Because this one was significant. He was one of the core developers of bitcoin and he sold all his bitcoins (in 2016 I think) and went viral by saying "bitcoin is a failed experiment". That's more than a decade ago already.
It is a good example that needs to be used as an educational material for people to know just because someone is famous or were in a certain important position (in this case a core dev) doesn't mean whatever they say is correct. They too can be full of it sometimes Wink
Agree on both points, and I hope what you said will serve as an eye opener for some Bitcoiners who still believe in the statements of some famous people due to the position they hold in the Bitcoin space.
Meanwhile, Dimon’s fraud line bout BTC in Sept 2017 sits nicely. The same person, same period, with the same naive confidence that aged poorly.
Hearn's exit is definitely worth a lesson for every Bitcoin due to the level of his "The resolution of the Bitcoin experiment" in January 2016 and how he was a real Core contributor but publicly declared BTC dead, sold his coins, and predicted irreversible failure.
Years later, the network is still running and thriving.


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Today at 07:41:55 PM
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Talking about mining: Has the "mining death spiral" already an entry?

An example article from 2019 [1] and a rebuttal from 2018 [2].

I think it was around that time when the term appeared, so it may be a bit late for the 2010-14 window. But no bear market since then came even close to trigger such a spiral, and it's difficult to justify it with math or game theory, so it may be "refuted" already.

For the "format" in the OP we could frame it as:

[Bitcoin is ...] ... in danger to enter a death spiral if miners' rentability decreases too much, spreading panic about its safety, which further decreases its price and miner rentability.

[1] https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/has-the-bitcoin-mining-industry-entered-into-a-death-spiral/
[2] https://cryptowords.github.io/the-bitcoin-mining-death-spiral-debate-explained

BTW, I found an article where Sascha Lobo mentions Hashgraph in a subtitle, but it isn't the one where he claims it is a superior technology to Bitcoin. (Perhaps he deleted it?)

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Today at 07:49:16 PM
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In my country, the government through the Central Bank, carried out a banking restriction on bitcoin and crypto transactions because they say it was causing serious currency devaluation, these type of digital funds cannot be tracked. It lead the closure of operations of so major centralized exchanges and we had to port to peer-to-peer to keep things going.

There are many bank accounts that are still frozen related to this central bank actions during the End Sarz protest. If not for the help of Bitcoin that day, the protest wouldn't have been fruitful. Bitcoin came as alternative and the government later heard their outcry even though some law enforcement open fire that day and today, there is no Sarz in Nigeria as operation. The central bank couldn't stop Bitcoin transaction and after they banned Bitcoin for 2 years.

So many drama during that period. I remembered the government came back and uplift the banned when the election was at the corner. This tells you that the government knows what they are doing, they know how valuable Bitcoin is, but wouldn't let people have freedom.
It was really an event with so many drama but the protest was actually made possible with the help of Bitcoin. Government didn't change change their mind because of Bitcoin alone, instead there were pressure from different angles that they just couldn't resist all of them. Bitcoin only pave way for the protest when there was no way, when government restricted normal financial system. And this is Bitcoin serving one of it's main purpose of being an alternative form of payment. I believe a lot of people got convinced in the process about Bitcoin usefulness when they need a system that is decentralized.

 
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Today at 07:54:39 PM
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Bitcoin is still banned in my country and is considered a source of payment for illegal transactions. When we say Bitcoin, our government wants us to understand money laundering, gambling, scams, easy transactions for terrorists, etc.

But the funny thing is that in my country, these illegal activities can be done very easily with fiat currency, but the problem is only with Bitcoin. Bitcoin mining is still banned, using Bitcoin is prohibited and even pronouncing Bitcoin is risky.











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