Thai Anti-Crime Crusader Accused in $30M Online Gambling Probe

[AVE5]

It often happens that the accuser also hides something. If it is proven, let him pay for the crimes. Here in Brazil something similar is happening; it has no relation to gambling, but some of our ministers of the Supreme Federal Court are involved in a billion-dollar fraud scandal, and they are posing as defenders of the law, practically saints, immaculate.

It’s basically what happened all over the world, and when you look at it very well, most of the time most of the accused are guilty of the charges, and their cases only become a thing when they turn out to be a threat to a party that is trying to regain power or any form of political threat.

They will always wake up old wounds or where others don’t look, and they will use that against the person to fight him legally. I don’t know the real case behind this until the ruling is decided; for now, all we can do is speculate based on what we have also seen happening around us.

I'm not surprised as the gambling discussion thread is gaining more interests in political aspects after all the crusader in question had made it known that his arrest was as a results of political involvement.
Otherwise, I'm really finding it strange why we talk more of politics in this discussion instead of gambling while this is neither not prediction market we're talking about here.
This is just to tell us how every of our daily lives activities has become politicised to the extent that if you're a concern about some people  they'll also begin to keep record's about you until you get into their trap just as this crusader being landed in trouble after exposing the evils of the agencies. So they finds this means of him associated with gambling to count him charges that hasn't still be proven as the accuser claims not guilty.

[drangos]

It often happens that the accuser also hides something. If it is proven, let him pay for the crimes. Here in Brazil something similar is happening; it has no relation to gambling, but some of our ministers of the Supreme Federal Court are involved in a billion-dollar fraud scandal, and they are posing as defenders of the law, practically saints, immaculate.

It’s basically what happened all over the world, and when you look at it very well, most of the time most of the accused are guilty of the charges, and their cases only become a thing when they turn out to be a threat to a party that is trying to regain power or any form of political threat.

They will always wake up old wounds or where others don’t look, and they will use that against the person to fight him legally. I don’t know the real case behind this until the ruling is decided; for now, all we can do is speculate based on what we have also seen happening around us.

I'm not surprised as the gambling discussion thread is gaining more interests in political aspects after all the crusader in question had made it known that his arrest was as a results of political involvement.
Otherwise, I'm really finding it strange why we talk more of politics in this discussion instead of gambling while this is neither not prediction market we're talking about here.
This is just to tell us how every of our daily lives activities has become politicised to the extent that if you're a concern about some people  they'll also begin to keep record's about you until you get into their trap just as this crusader being landed in trouble after exposing the evils of the agencies. So they finds this means of him associated with gambling to count him charges that hasn't still be proven as the accuser claims not guilty.

I believe it's important to take the political allegations and the gambling charges apart and look into the evidence for each. While the timing might give rise to questions, it does not prove it to be politically motivated. Similarly, a person who campaigns against crime is no less guilty of the offence than if they did not campaign against it. The key is if investigators are able to present credible evidence and if the person accused is able to receive a fair trial. As long as the facts are not known, it may be dangerous to assume either of the sides' claims to be true.

[TheUltraElite]

Anti-crime crusader on one side and illegal gambling operations on the other side. Typical storyline for the next hit-or-miss hollywood movie.

Seriously speaking though, I hope the illegal operations for gambling are not supported by the public and I dont think crusading against them is the right way to stop them, sounds more of personal vendetta unless some other purpose is involved.

Either way I hope the legal route remains clean, the Thai police and no police in this world are ever straight.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I'm not sure what corruption is like in Thailand, but it seems like he would make an excellent scapegoat if some dodgy police officers needed to knock out some competition on behalf of the real criminals.

Perhaps a richer mogul wanted his position so bad that they had to set him up--- even if this allegations were true, there's a high chance that he wasn't involved in it all by himself; someone who knew the plot prior to this accusation would have refused to handle the funds, so that they're not liable to any allegations.

The judge has to pay careful attention on this case to rule out the idea it's a setup.

Corruption in Thailand isn't any different from the rest of the world. If this was a setup, they probably have Judges in high places to speak against the accused and condemn him. Unless he makes an appeal with a judge that doesn't tolerate that cat and mouse games.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

One of Thailand’s best-known anti-crime campaigners has been jailed pending trial after cyber police accused him of involvement in an illegal online boxing betting operation that allegedly handled more than $29 million.

Those we think are the motivators to what we are doing are even the accuser that we don't know we should be careful with, someone that is it crusader warning people about the danger of online gambling and other motivational speaking concerning human rights shouldn't be found in situation like this, just keep me wondering if most of the people will see canvas others to do something are actually doing the same thing they are motivating others to do or not to do.

[Sandra_hakeem]

One of Thailand’s best-known anti-crime campaigners has been jailed pending trial after cyber police accused him of involvement in an illegal online boxing betting operation that allegedly handled more than $29 million.

Those we think are the motivators to what we are doing are even the accuser that we don't know we should be careful with, someone that is it crusader warning people about the danger of online gambling and other motivational speaking concerning human rights shouldn't be found in situation like this, just keep me wondering if most of the people will see canvas others to do something are actually doing the same thing they are motivating others to do or not to do.

It's very possible and we see that all the time. From our very own experience, they delegated a drug addict to represent the country as the ambassador for national drugs law enforcement agencies, isn't that mind-boggling? The the same who preach against corruption have borrowed, and are still planning to borrow more billion of Dollars, both from world bank and China. It simply means you can do anything but believe that anyone who's behind any type of "rehabilitation, motivation" like you said are necessarily not guilty of the same crime until otherwise proven.

What I said has absolutely nothing to do with the case in the OP. The investigation is still ongoing and since the accused has pled not guilty, let's give it some time to see how it ends.

[suzanne5223]

One of Thailand’s best-known anti-crime campaigners has been jailed pending trial after cyber police accused him of involvement in an illegal online boxing betting operation that allegedly handled more than $29 million.

Those we think are the motivators to what we are doing are even the accuser that we don't know we should be careful with, someone that is it crusader warning people about the danger of online gambling and other motivational speaking concerning human rights shouldn't be found in situation like this, just keep me wondering if most of the people will see canvas others to do something are actually doing the same thing they are motivating others to do or not to do.

It's very possible and we see that all the time. From our very own experience, they delegated a drug addict to represent the country as the ambassador for national drugs law enforcement agencies, isn't that mind-boggling? The the same who preach against corruption have borrowed, and are still planning to borrow more billion of Dollars, both from world bank and China. It simply means you can do anything but believe that anyone who's behind any type of "rehabilitation, motivation" like you said are necessarily not guilty of the same crime until otherwise proven.

What I said has absolutely nothing to do with the case in the OP. The investigation is still ongoing and since the accused has pled not guilty, let's give it some time to see how it ends.

You guys have a point because we have a situation where good people turn bad, but at the moment the whole accusation is still at the allegation stage, and the man is yet to be proven guilty.
For the record, Atchariya denies the charges and claims it is based on political motivation, while the police say they have financial trails linking him to what he was accused of.
Therefore, until the investigation finishes, the evidence is presented in court, and the jury convicts him, he's still not guilty.

[Iranus]

Who will falsify bank records? I am not convinced by this, because when Bank records are used as evidence before the judge, it is the same as fooling the judge.
Moreover it concerns the reputation of the bank, When all that is in counterfeit it is not impossible that the bank in question will get a bad reputation.

It is true that bank records alone are not enough to prove whether a transaction is related to a criminal act or not. However, we also cannot simply doubt the authenticity of the records without any indication or evidence of forgery.

In my opinion, there is a difference between questioning the authenticity of a document and questioning the purpose of the transaction recorded in it. Both are different issues that must be proven separately. Therefore, an independent examination is certainly necessary, but that does not mean that bank records submitted as evidence should be immediately considered untrustworthy.

However, presenting distorted or incomplete financial record in court is not any uncommon occurrence. When I spoke of fraud or fabrication, I did not mean that banking institution itself would manufacture document. Document manipulation can occur through presentation of partial statement. Fraud can be perpetrated by isolating specific section out of context or through action of dishonest official prior to official verification.

I fully agree with your point that verifying integrity of document and verifying purpose of transaction are two distinct matter. My intention was not to dismiss bank document as fake out of hand. Rather in cases involving allegation of being framed, it is equally risky to blindly accept document submitted by prosecution as entirely authentic or unaltered without forensic verification. An impartial forensic audit does not imply presuming document are forged from outset. Instead it is about ensuring reliability of chain of custody. This clarifies both authenticity of document and actual purpose of fund beyond any doubt.

[Rabata]

It often happens that the accuser also hides something. If it is proven, let him pay for the crimes. Here in Brazil something similar is happening; it has no relation to gambling, but some of our ministers of the Supreme Federal Court are involved in a billion-dollar fraud scandal, and they are posing as defenders of the law, practically saints, immaculate.

It’s basically what happened all over the world, and when you look at it very well, most of the time most of the accused are guilty of the charges, and their cases only become a thing when they turn out to be a threat to a party that is trying to regain power or any form of political threat.

They will always wake up old wounds or where others don’t look, and they will use that against the person to fight him legally. I don’t know the real case behind this until the ruling is decided; for now, all we can do is speculate based on what we have also seen happening around us.

I'm not surprised as the gambling discussion thread is gaining more interests in political aspects after all the crusader in question had made it known that his arrest was as a results of political involvement.
Otherwise, I'm really finding it strange why we talk more of politics in this discussion instead of gambling while this is neither not prediction market we're talking about here.
This is just to tell us how every of our daily lives activities has become politicised to the extent that if you're a concern about some people  they'll also begin to keep record's about you until you get into their trap just as this crusader being landed in trouble after exposing the evils of the agencies. So they finds this means of him associated with gambling to count him charges that hasn't still be proven as the accuser claims not guilty.

I believe it's important to take the political allegations and the gambling charges apart and look into the evidence for each. While the timing might give rise to questions, it does not prove it to be politically motivated. Similarly, a person who campaigns against crime is no less guilty of the offence than if they did not campaign against it. The key is if investigators are able to present credible evidence and if the person accused is able to receive a fair trial. As long as the facts are not known, it may be dangerous to assume either of the sides' claims to be true.

Neither the gambling allegations nor the political allegations surrounding the incident can be ignored. Therefore, the real incident can be known through an independent investigation and sufficient evidence. Political figures file various false allegations to eliminate their opponents. Especially, those in power use their power to fabricate false cases and try to silence their voices. Therefore, it is difficult to know whether the real truth of this incident will be revealed or not. If the accused is found to be involved, then no one else has a chance to say anything about this. If gambling is legal and nothing illegal is found, then such political harassment should not be done.