A little definition about what is happening in France

[Emjay24]

France moved from Industrial Economy to Service Economy, therefore the demand for highly skilled workers like Medical doctors, Nurses, Engineers, etc turned high on demand for the Government, rendering the other high population that moved into Paris with underpaying job opportunities stacked at doing nothing.

France has used those unskilled workers who took much cheaper wages to develop their economy, now they want to dump their sorry ass as usual, they use you and dump or eliminate you when you're no longer relevant to them. Such are the predicament of the protesters.

If they were genuine with their intentions, why didn't they create education programs to upskill the existing workforce so they can fit in the change of economy pattern as well?

I'm sure they didn't envision the protests would escalate to this stage, were they thinking the immigrants would just fold their hands and starve or do nothing to put food on their tables. The protesters are fighting for their rights to survival, France should find a way to deal with it diplomatically before it escalates further.

[Accardo]

France has used those unskilled workers who took much cheaper wages to develop their economy, now they want to dump their sorry ass as usual, they use you and dump or eliminate you when you're no longer relevant to them. Such are the predicament of the protesters.

If they were genuine with their intentions, why didn't they create education programs to upskill the existing workforce so they can fit in the change of economy pattern as well?

On a clear ground, it's more of the duties of such individuals to build their skills, rather than remain in the sweatshop section. Although France haven moved from industrial economy, shows a clear lack of resources. Their debt burden is among the worse in the world sitting at about $4 trillion. A burden that accumulated from massive expenditures that far exceeds her economic outflow. If Macron could insist on fixing public finance, the financial debt increase would be curtailed, leaving it unresolved will create more protests as this in the future. So, they'll not be a way to sponsor her workers when they're heavily indebted.

[Accardo]

Just in: The protesters has taken it up their sleeves to burn down buildings in France, on the current, Limoges' century old town hall was brought down to ashes by these protesters 4 days ago, and a certain 34 year old carpenter was arrested for this crime. International leaders like Trump strongly believe that this act signals  a hatred for France, including its architecture, and tagged it an immigration issue rather than a payment problem, when asked by a reporter.

[Zlantann]

Just in: The protesters has taken it up their sleeves to burn down buildings in France, on the current, Limoges' century old town hall was brought down to ashes by these protesters 4 days ago, and a certain 34 year old carpenter was arrested for this crime. International leaders like Trump strongly believe that this act signals  a hatred for France, including its architecture, and tagged it an immigration issue rather than a payment problem, when asked by a reporter.

France has a history of riots, public protests, and civil unrest. These protesters can do anything to get the attention of the government. I have seen different videos that show that these mobsters are driven by Islamic ideologies. Many of these protesters are carrying the Palestinian flag, which shows their sympathy for Gaza. It is also essential to verify the information or news that covers the events in France. Some of them are AI-generated or manipulated by anti-immigrants.

Some politicians who are angry about Emmanuel Macron's refusal to support wars are also using the riots to attack France. Trump and Netanyahu are using the event in France to score cheap political points. Generalizing that immigrants are the instigators of this unrest is wrong. Many shops or businesses of immigrants were looted during the riots. France also houses millions of responsible immigrants.

[Taricoins]

Ongoing riot in France is crazy, on the net there're over a hundred videos of unusual physical combats from young people against the police, Palestinian flags wavering on the streets, tear gas smoke spiraling on the streets,  before dealing with your time, how was Paris built? Since the end of Second World War, France due to economic reasons, required much people to fill up the gap for the sweetshop jobs the nation needed to modernize in the industrial age. Most people came from Algeria, due to long standing relationship between the both countries. Lately, France moved from Industrial Economy to Service Economy, therefore the demand for highly skilled workers like Medical doctors, Nurses, Engineers, etc turned high on demand for the Government, rendering the other high population that moved into Paris with underpaying job opportunities stacked at doing nothing.

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it must be said that in France they are known for setting fire to the city in case something doesn't go well, i see it as a little anarchic, but it must be said that sometimes it is the only solution, uncontrolled immigration will also be a cause of all this, but it is not up to me to say what is right or wrong, the government must do something anyway, something like this must happen in Italy too, but i have the impression that if they don't do something as soon as possible it will happen here too.

This same thing happened in Spain, maybe not to this France level but there was loud uprise from residence and I think that's one thing all government should pay serious attention to. The funny thing is that it's really hard to please people, residents complain about high fluxs of immigrant but when policies are put in place for deportation, they complain like ICE, I know the way they went with ICE was aggressive and racist but a better approach can be implemented

[HyperCodexV]

Ongoing riot in France is crazy, on the net there're over a hundred videos of unusual physical combats from young people against the police, Palestinian flags wavering on the streets, tear gas smoke spiraling on the streets,  before dealing with your time, how was Paris built? Since the end of Second World War, France due to economic reasons, required much people to fill up the gap for the sweetshop jobs the nation needed to modernize in the industrial age. Most people came from Algeria, due to long standing relationship between the both countries. Lately, France moved from Industrial Economy to Service Economy, therefore the demand for highly skilled workers like Medical doctors, Nurses, Engineers, etc turned high on demand for the Government, rendering the other high population that moved into Paris with underpaying job opportunities stacked at doing nothing.

this work is a beautiful read on the subject

From most of the social media write ups about the riots and some podcast reactions to the situation on the ground in France, they highlight the fact that the riots started back in September and was instigated by some group of high school students in the southern axis of Paris and it all started as just a protest for the lack of quality in buildings in the school premises and lack of teachers. But I think others saw it as a way to also vent out their anger towards the government so they joined the bus. Families are now protesting due to high rate of prices and students are protesting for  ore teachers and workers are protesting for good wages. So it wasn't politically motivated at first.

[Floczy]

They did not seem to protesting over 1 thing, because from what I saw, they had different things written on their placards, at this point they need a reply from their government they need some speech or what so ever that will give them sort of hope, what escalates protest to this level is silence from the government,

Funny how most individuals found it as a way to steal items of value for their personal benefits, some are protesting some are stalling

[LTU_btc]

We rather not call out a whole religion for the illegal conduct of a minority, we can't be sure if every participant of the protest is a Muslim. Majority takes the vote, I see that Islam is quickly blamed whenever violence breaks out because they're the majority population in the nation.

And that's the roots of the problem - majority of population in France and some other European countries is muslims now. Yes, you can tell that not every person who makes this mess isn't muslim, but that it will be just ignoring reality. And I'm not talking about this specific case, but about whole situation in general.
For some reasons you don't see such things in Poland, Hungary, Baltics or let's say Bulgaria.

[Accardo]

Some politicians who are angry about Emmanuel Macron's refusal to support wars are also using the riots to attack France.

Where would he get the money to sponsor war? Most officials are sidelining him, next year marks the end of his tenure, no leader would want a serious long term relationship with the french president, until a fresh one is instituted. Then, several more changes would come up in the now chaotic nation.

And that's the roots of the problem - majority of population in France and some other European countries is muslims now. Yes, you can tell that not every person who makes this mess isn't muslim, but that it will be just ignoring reality. And I'm not talking about this specific case, but about whole situation in general.
For some reasons you don't see such things in Poland, Hungary, Baltics or let's say Bulgaria.

Not every Muslim is an islamist. Those of them who do not participate in crimes like this hate to hear the media point out the rioters as Muslims.

[DanWalker]

And that's the roots of the problem - majority of population in France and some other European countries is muslims now. Yes, you can tell that not every person who makes this mess isn't muslim, but that it will be just ignoring reality. And I'm not talking about this specific case, but about whole situation in general.
For some reasons you don't see such things in Poland, Hungary, Baltics or let's say Bulgaria.

When developing countries face riots, or protests or economic problem...They usually blame poor governance, corruption, bad policies, a weak education system, or a lack of public awareness...blah blah bla.
But when developed countries, especially those in Eu face similar problems. They start blaming religion, Muslims and immigration. What kind of standard is that?

According to estimates  from Pew Research Center, Muslims make up around 8-10% of France's population and about 6% of Europe's population.

So, is it fair  to blame  Muslims for what is happening in France?


https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/11/29/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://atlasocio.com/classements/religions/islam/classement-etats-par-adherents-islam-pourcentage-europe.php

[Uhwuchukwu53]

And that's the roots of the problem - majority of population in France and some other European countries is muslims now. Yes, you can tell that not every person who makes this mess isn't muslim, but that it will be just ignoring reality. And I'm not talking about this specific case, but about whole situation in general.
For some reasons you don't see such things in Poland, Hungary, Baltics or let's say Bulgaria.

When developing countries face riots, or protests or economic problem...They usually blame poor governance, corruption, bad policies, a weak education system, or a lack of public awareness...blah blah bla.
But when developed countries, especially those in Eu face similar problems. They start blaming religion, Muslims and immigration. What kind of standard is that?

According to estimates  from Pew Research Center, Muslims make up around 8-10% of France's population and about 6% of Europe's population.

So, is it fair  to blame  Muslims for what is happening in France?


https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/11/29/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://atlasocio.com/classements/religions/islam/classement-etats-par-adherents-islam-pourcentage-europe.php

From your table and explanation blaming Muslim is out of context, one thing in human they have means and measure of diverting attention of citizens when issue arises in the government especially when the expectations of the people from the government is not melt, but that can still course some internal and external crises if not properly handle where it becomes religion fight rather than economy fight. The problem while many issue escalated to a point where government begin to find where to anchor their blame is result an given deaf ears to the call of citizens when observations are made about some happening around their environment but would not respond until it becomes what mere handling could as riot is already involved where damages are course by citizens, negligence is very bad especially early stage of a thing where it would have been handled without a damage.

[Oluwa-btc]

Some politicians who are angry about Emmanuel Macron's refusal to support wars are also using the riots to attack France. Trump and Netanyahu are using the event in France to score cheap political points. Generalizing that immigrants are the instigators of this unrest is wrong. Many shops or businesses of immigrants were looted during the riots. France also houses millions of responsible immigrants.

It us super funny to watch and read comments from the British as well talking and posting about immigrants and Muslims. How have they forgotten in a rush that they are responsible for the invasion of over 171 countries in the world? Is it that they have forgotten or they do not read something?

I don't have nothing to say about Donald Trump, they go on bombing the nations of Muslims causing uproar so as to get their oil and resources, but he is talking about immigrants? Imagine a nation who even genocided the indigenous Americans lol, laughable. And please, somebody check how many times they have bombed Somalia this year, but they complain when Somalian refugees look for greener pastures within their shores.

Billionaires and rich politicial class are making life difficult for the average in France, I mean they can go ahead to loot and steal from the average class but it is wrong for those protesting to mirror just the same way?!

[DanWalker]

From your table and explanation blaming Muslim is out of context, one thing in human they have means and measure of diverting attention of citizens when issue arises in the government especially when the expectations of the people from the government is not melt, but that can still course some internal and external crises if not properly handle where it becomes religion fight rather than economy fight. The problem while many issue escalated to a point where government begin to find where to anchor their blame is result an given deaf ears to the call of citizens when observations are made about some happening around their environment but would not respond until it becomes what mere handling could as riot is already involved where damages are course by citizens, negligence is very bad especially early stage of a thing where it would have been handled without a damage.

If you pay attention, Western leader never admit when they have got things wrong. Whenever something goes wrong or a crisis hits. They look for someone, anyone, to blame, as long as it is not themselves. LOL.

They'll blame the previous administration, political opponents, other countries, external circumstances, or even religion...In their eyes, the rule only apply to everyone else, while they always get a pass.

Classic double standard.

[Alonso_]

The link to that article is honestly laughable. Yes Muslims are involved right now in the protest but is the protest really about immigrants and Muslims like the article stated?

We rather not call out a whole religion for the illegal conduct of a minority, we can't be sure if every participant of the protest is a Muslim. Majority takes the vote, I see that Islam is quickly blamed whenever violence breaks out because they're the majority population in the nation.

I just have to say this, what is happening in France is a result of bad immigration policies in France and now France is suffering from Islamization, because when you look at the people carrying this protest in France is mostly Muslims, which makes me to think it’s not just about Economic reforms, there is a large population of Algerians in France and black Africans, and we know that Algeria is an Islamic country, Emmanuel Macron have to do something about this protest before it gets into something else. Properties have been destroyed, which is a bad action from the violent protesters, Donald Trump made it clear that the protest is a result of bad immigration policy in Europe and not only France, he also made mention that the protest is a result of Islamization.

[Accardo]

Properties have been destroyed, which is a bad action from the violent protesters, Donald Trump made it clear that the protest is a result of bad immigration policy in Europe and not only France, he also made mention that the protest is a result of Islamization.

Most countries in Europe like the UK will end up not having a country to call their own if they fold arms and watch immigrants flood their nation. Surprisingly most things as high immigration to a country happen because politicians have an interest in using the immigrants to win elections. Yet the repercussions are way too crude than the actual aim of these leaders who leave borders wide open for everybody to lurk in and out of their territory.

[LTU_btc]

When developing countries face riots, or protests or economic problem...They usually blame poor governance, corruption, bad policies, a weak education system, or a lack of public awareness...blah blah bla.
But when developed countries, especially those in Eu face similar problems. They start blaming religion, Muslims and immigration. What kind of standard is that?

According to estimates  from Pew Research Center, Muslims make up around 8-10% of France's population and about 6% of Europe's population.

So, is it fair  to blame  Muslims for what is happening in France?


https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/11/29/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://atlasocio.com/classements/religions/islam/classement-etats-par-adherents-islam-pourcentage-europe.php

So, you want to say that 10% isn't much? Nope, it's a lot, it's highest Muslim population in Western Europe. Especially in major cities like Paris and Marseille where concentration of muslims is much much higher than average.
Nobody isn't saying that France have perfect government who don't make bad and stupid decisions. But it would be stupid to ignore that Western Europe has problems with muslims and increasing their population.