Online based roulette and physical wheel roulette which more transparent?

[abel1337]

I mostly played on online live roulette where there is a dealer entertaining us gamblers. I had a few experience playing it on a physical casino and it is quite enjoyable but to be honest it is quite a hassle that I'm only going to a physical casino just to play, so I prefer playing on an online live roulette. I personally believe that physical casino still has a way to alter results of roulette like having a trained dealer throw a ball or by using different ball weights, if their a will, there's a way. Online live roulette is the same thing on the physical casino that the game can be manipulated.

I don't really enjoy playing on an programmed online roulette, it's quite boring for me. I don't have any trust issues about the verifiability of those online roulette since I only play those on big and reliable casinos which are most likely being audited for fairness.

[el che]

Sorry to draw your attention for those who who deal on live roulette on the physical wheel roulette, and those who play roulette online which is more transparent?
The reason why I draw this discussion is because, I am having this feeling that physical wheel roulette is more transparent because the online roulette which being coded with some data without one possibly know how transparent it's could be hard for someone to win while gambling. Realistically, I am a fan of sports betting but somehow beginning to find interest in roulette. So, I would want to hear from those who has made used of the both physical wheel and online wheel which is more reliable for winning?

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Neither are truly transparent. While it feels like you can trust a physical wheel more because you can actually see it spinning, the reality is that many land based casinos can, and do, use shady setups. Things like subtle wheel biases, magnetized or heavy balls and altered frets are all tricks that have been used over the years.
If physical casinos can pull off shady stuff right in front of your eyes, you can only imagine what can happen behind the scenes with online roulette, whether it's run by a Random Number Generator or streamed via live dealer.
At the end of the day, neither option offers total transparency. If you decide to transition from sports betting to roulette, just remember that the house always holds the edge regardless of whether the wheel is real or digital.

[POPOLUV]

Sorry to draw your attention for those who who deal on live roulette on the physical wheel roulette, and those who play roulette online which is more transparent?
The reason why I draw this discussion is because, I am having this feeling that physical wheel roulette is more transparent because the online roulette which being coded with some data without one possibly know how transparent it's could be hard for someone to win while gambling. Realistically, I am a fan of sports betting but somehow beginning to find interest in roulette. So, I would want to hear from those who has made used of the both physical wheel and online wheel which is more reliable for winning?

After some comments I would lock this thread to avoid over flooding. Please be strict on your comments to avoid deletion.
Thank you.

Although i have not been able to witness wheel roulette gambling online but with best of my knowledge i can testify that prefer playing wheel roulette physical because the fun of game will be displaying before your presence with others gambling that will be around to watch as the game is going on, and the first day i decided to play wheel roulette because i have been watching gamblers play the game for so long, so my target that very day, is to hit at the jackpot because no has not been lucky to win that number, so i was thinking it was that easy to win, till when i had the experience, then i knew that some games are basically on luck.

[Sammysmart001]

This does not prove that they will cheat in roulette or not because there is no difference between online and real roulette as in real roulette the game movement can be changed with a button at the bottom of the game and what can happen in online roulette.

Brother this simple not true. To control the roulette wheel, real casinos doesn’t have secret buttons. They Dont need to cheat, the math of the game already guarantees that they will make money over time. It a huge risk to try to rig a physical wheel abd this will major them lose their license and also shout down the business.

Physical roulette is more always transparent, you will just be trusting a hidden computer code that you can’t see, with an online roulette.

[Junii]

I am having this feeling that physical wheel roulette is more transparent because the online roulette which being coded with some data without one possibly know how transparent

The physical roulette feels like there is transparency because we can see the ball and the wheel in front of our eyes i am not saying the online one contains more cheating if any online casino games system were checked by any company and they give the green sign then it is good but whatever it is both casinos has a house edge whether it is online roulette or physical roulette and that house edge definitely give benefit to a casino mathematically i mean in numbers in the long run.

[abaeze]

I think there is no difference in terms of results because both are completely dependent on luck. Although many people may think that in real roulette everything is happening in front of their eyes and there is no reason to doubt it. But all the secrets are inside the roulette machine. On the other hand, online roulette app are pre-arranged in a specific pattern, so even if you want to, there is no way to understand exactly how to win. However, when it comes to entertainment, I prefer playing on a real machine.

[DPHOR]

So what about those who doesn't know how to verify it to know if it's transparent enough?
At this point, do we need someone to help those who can not do that one their own?

There are people that will verify how the game they are playing is often, just to make sure the gambling site is not manipulating. But anyone that does not know how to verify the game that he played from its seed, the person can learn how to do it and it is not that time consuming.

Okay this is nice. If there is any means I would learn then better as I would want to know that very well because nowadays when one intending to go dip into gambling on roulette and other games they should be able to know how these things works properly so that they wouldn't be cheated for any reason. Hence, physical gambling site could be more appreciated to enable be able to know how trusted and fair their game play are, than gambling without knowing how to verify their game.

[red4slash]

I've never tried playing physical Roulettes in a casino due to time and place constraints (as there are no land-based casinos in my country) so it is difficult to make this a consideration of which one is best even though I have a rough idea of roulette for a site.

For me that doesn't make a benchmark comparison actually in this case there is no special comparison that can be seen because it has never played in a land-based casino but certainly when in a roulette game on a site of my choice at this time I never felt that this had a problem in it.
It's a little difficult to talk about transparency issues here but as long as the site doesn't make us feel that we are being cheated and doing the rounds reasonably then I think it can be taken into consideration that the game is still viable and has no problems when we play it.

[Mr_Brilliant$]

Just because you can see the wheel physically, don't make online any less just because you can't see the code.
Regardless of which, there's something I know for sure. There are some things that will make a good roulette. First transparency of their rules and whether the game can be verified. Fairness, both the casino and the gamblers shouldn't feel one is lossing money and the other isn't satisfied with how he services customers through roulette. There must be a balance. Winning chances; I won't play a game when I know that at least 98% of people loss. That is way to far. It that miss the winning chances is too low to begin with.

[Charles-Tim]

On the other hand, online roulette app are pre-arranged in a specific pattern, so even if you want to, there is no way to understand exactly how to win. However, when it comes to entertainment, I prefer playing on a real machine.

The only advantage of land based casinos are the more entertainment that you can get from it than online casinos. Aside that, I do not think there is anything more that can be derived from physical casinos that online casinos can not give. But about winning, there is no way that you can know how you can win in physical casinos. They are all games of luck and gambers are most likely to lose than win in both land based or online casinos.

[Chinesebaby]

Sorry to draw your attention for those who who deal on live roulette on the physical wheel roulette, and those who play roulette online which is more transparent?
The reason why I draw this discussion is because, I am having this feeling that physical wheel roulette is more transparent because the online roulette which being coded with some data without one possibly know how transparent it's could be hard for someone to win while gambling. Realistically, I am a fan of sports betting but somehow beginning to find interest in roulette. So, I would want to hear from those who has made used of the both physical wheel and online wheel which is more reliable for winning?

After some comments I would lock this thread to avoid over flooding. Please be strict on your comments to avoid deletion.
Thank you.

When it comes to the comparison between the physical and online roulette wheels, which one is more transparent? I will say that the physical roulette wheel is likely to be more transparent than the online one, since when playing the physical one you can see it with your eyes as the wheel spins, unlike the online one that you can not see, despite the fact that its outcome is said to be as a reult of random algorithem, and can easily be manipulated if the casino wants to their advantage. Unlike the physical one that can not be manipulated, simply because you are seeing the wheels with your eyes.

[Orpichukwu]

You can physically observe the transparency of real roulettes, but you can never investigate the inner workings of online roulettes. Maybe they are full of people, maybe they maintain maximum transparency. However, suspicion can also change from casino to casino. There are some casinos that want to maintain maximum transparency and always promise transparency to users, but there are some casinos that constantly cheat users. In their case, the main suspicion is.

That’s why the platform where one plays is very important. We have live dealers, which are always active on the table just like human dealers, and some casinos make the game results available for those who care enough to verify if it was probably fair or not. Some are as transparent as possible, but that won’t still remove the doubt people have on the code. It's the same way we can even question the fairness of land-based dealers if they are playing some trick on the game.

[Z_MBFM]

If the platform uses the Provably Fair system, then online roulette will be much more transparent than physical wheel roulette. Because if there is any special mechanism in physical wheel roulette, then in that case you will not be able to verify it, you will have to trust the result that you see with your own eyes. However, in the case of online platforms, you can verify it with Seed Hash that how fair and true the result is. So considering these aspects, I think online roulette is more transparent than physical. I have never been to a physical casino house, so my understanding may be wrong, it is not unusual. But so far I think that online roulette is the most transparent.

[Doan9269]

Not every Gambler knows how to verify if the game they are playing is fair to them, but that being said, is there anything they can do to change the situation? Obviously not, because they will only keep complaining without any changes from the providers. Do you think the physical outlet machines are more reliable than going for them? If your own goes more in line with the online roulette, don't hesitate to play in that direction as well.

[Findingnemo]

On the other hand, online roulette app are pre-arranged in a specific pattern, so even if you want to, there is no way to understand exactly how to win. However, when it comes to entertainment, I prefer playing on a real machine.

The only advantage of land based casinos are the more entertainment that you can get from it than online casinos. Aside that, I do not think there is anything more that can be derived from physical casinos that online casinos can not give. But about winning, there is no way that you can know how you can win in physical casinos. They are all games of luck and gambers are most likely to lose than win in both land based or online casinos.

Physical casinos are not accessible for everyone, even if they are living in the same city visting a real casino can cost us a day and more money than just what we intend to wager that is the cost of little more entertainment though. But it is true, we can socialize on a real one while when we gamble online it is just for what it is supposed to be, just to gamble.

[Makus]

Sorry to draw your attention for those who who deal on live roulette on the physical wheel roulette, and those who play roulette online which is more transparent?

Talking about transparency you forget that it's possible for physical wheel to be rigged or manipulated, this isn't common but there's a possibility that this happens. In some cases online roulettes are better especially when you are dealing with casinos that have provably fair games and there are ways that this can be checked. The most important thing here is about preference and from what you are saying it seems you prefer physical wheel roulette which isn't what other players prefer.

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After getting meaningful contributions to the topic that would be a good idea to avoid unnecessary comments or spamming.

[DPHOR]

The reason why I draw this discussion is because, I am having this feeling that physical wheel roulette is more transparent because the online roulette which being coded with some data without one possibly know how transparent it's could be hard for someone to win while gambling.

First of all you need to understand that both physical and online roulette is designed to favour the casino (house edge) and speaking of transparency it's common to think that the physical roulette is better because you can see it right in front of you but that doesn't mean that winning is still going to be easier than online roulette, because both of these are still based on luck and the outcomes are random.

If you are using an online casino that's reputable and you know that this game in particular is provably fair then you don't have to worry about it being transparent or not, all you have to do is gamble responsibly and hope to get lucky.

That is true because but sometimes you would be able to know when the physical casino are being rigged, in fact there could be a very slime chance for them to alter the physical wheel than the online. For the online casino the tendency is very higher and you wouldn't know if the algorithm is being coded to favor the house more than the gambler itself.
For the physical wheel we all believed that is designed to favor the house also but, then you can't easily rig it that easily as it's being done on the online roulette.

[retreat]

So, I would want to hear from those who has made used of the both physical wheel and online wheel which is more reliable for winning?

I've never tried a physical wheel before. However, Roulette at popular online casinos should be more trustworthy since they come from trusted providers. Take Pragmatic, for example. They offer Roulette at more casinos, and their games have official RNG certification and are audited by third parties. They also hold a UK license. All of this should be more than enough to trust the games they offer.

But there's nothing wrong with you trusting the physical roulette wheel more. After all, everyone has their own opinion.

[Nwada001]

It's just a thing of choice, that’s what I can say. Even the land offline roulette, where you can see the dealer live and how the wheel is being rolled, I can trust what I see with my eyes more than code, just as you can trust the code as long as you can verify it.

I share in your mindset. I also believe that seeing a live seeker can make the game feel a lot more transparent, but this may also not also automatically prove that the game’s outcome is actually fair. It’s also pretty much applicable to codes too, it can be quite useful to verify the game’s outcome, but another thing should be if you really understand what you’re checking too.
In conclusion, both approaches actually require some level of trust, depending on the user, but the most important thing is understanding the limits of what you’re actually verifying.

A long-time reputation also matters in this regard. Now that online roulette has more active live dealers than the old coded play, where the play is already automated, they try to bring that live casino vibe down to the online play, which they should also make easier for players to get the same trust to make everything simple.

[EluguHcman]

Sorry to draw your attention for those who who deal on live roulette on the physical wheel roulette, and those who play roulette online which is more transparent?

This question will return us back to the other discussions we have been having about the provably game outcomes of the casinos.

The physical casino roulette determines its outcomes through the physical factors which you would not know the fairness in the efforts of the dealers being spin the wheels.
The online casino roulette is said to generate its outcomes automatically ransoms.
So won't know which is more transparent or not but I am sure you the physical game looking more real will seem more transparent.

However, I trust the psychological side of this scenarios usually see any of the that they wins more to be more transparent because we bettors will always appreciates the systems that profers profitable experiences which can be either the online or offline casinos.