what's everyone using for non-custodial swaps these days?

[Dearon Grif]

same setup here more or less. changelly through ledger live most of the time, changenow if the rate's better on whatever pair i need. i used to compare every time but on normal swap sizes the gap is usually too small to care about, so i mostly gave up

the wait time thing catches everyone. first time i swapped BTC to something i sat there refreshing convinced something had gone wrong 😭 turned out it was just waiting on bitcoin confirmations. ~10 min a block and you need more than one

[boyptc]

what's everyone using for non-custodial swaps these days?

A lot can be checked here and they've got reputation and experiences for each thread you'd see.

--> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=223.0

changelly through ledger live most of the time,  changenow if the rate's better

These swaps aren't recommended and I will discourage you from doing any swap directly from your Ledger straight to these exchanges which might require to sign the transaction.

Apart from that, if you still own a Ledger then you better find another hardware wallet e.g Trezor models.

[hosemary]

The services you are talking about don't provide non-custodial swaps. If they claim to be non-custodial exchanges, they're lying.
Instant exchanges have full control over the deposit addresses they provide and the wallets they use to process transactions. This means that they can freeze your funds for whatever reason and aren't non-custodial.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Changelly and Changenow are nowhere near being noncustodial. If you want to prove this, read through the reviews, and you will see that they have blocked/frozen funds of quite a number of users. That is something a noncustodial service cannot do.

People prefer instant swaps that won't request for KYC verification and we have about a dozen of them in this forum

[Alphakilo]

Everyone uses something different and from what I know while ledger live uses Changelly or ChangeNow, Exodus has theirs also and these days most self custody wallets has gone ahead to integrate these services into their interface of which makes manual comparison across different sites obsolete in more ways than one.
Have you tried using ThorChain? Maybe you could find it better a choice than the one you are used to.

[EarnOnVictor]

same setup here more or less. changelly through ledger live most of the time, changenow if the rate's better on whatever pair i need. i used to compare every time but on normal swap sizes the gap is usually too small to care about, so i mostly gave up

the wait time thing catches everyone. first time i swapped BTC to something i sat there refreshing convinced something had gone wrong 😭 turned out it was just waiting on bitcoin confirmations. ~10 min a block and you need more than one

If decentralisation isn't a priority for you, Changelly and ChangeNOW are perfectly fine options, and they're integrated into various self-custody wallets. Personally, though, I'd prefer a DEX like Uniswap for serious dealings because, despite Changelly and ChangeNOW offering swaps without requiring a conventional custodial exchange account, they're still centralised intermediaries in the transaction.

But that's by the way, as I suppose your fees and speed experience are the major reasons for your post.

[Donneski]

We need to understand that convenience and trust aren't the same. Integrating a swap service into Ledger live makes it easier to use but it doesn't guarantee that the service is safe or genuinely non custodial. Instead of assuming that everything about a platform is fine, I'll take my time and examine how it actually operates and that's because it's hardware wallet and any mistake can be very costly.

[Charles-Tim]

The services you are talking about don't provide non-custodial swaps. If they claim to be non-custodial exchanges, they're lying.
Instant exchanges have full control over the deposit addresses they provide and the wallets they use to process transactions. This means that they can freeze your funds for whatever reason and aren't non-custodial.

It is very possible that it is Dearon Grif that is lying and shilling for both exchanges. We have noticed this kind of posts since few weeks ago. They paused and post another one today. I will not be surprised if another new user post a new topic about these two exchanges this week or next week.