Void match and profit re-calculation.

[IjawMan]

I have been curious specially as it has not happened to me directly to know how it is calculated and I do not want to wait ontil when it happens to me.

I mean, how the casinos calculate the odds to arrive at the right amount of profit that should be given to a player after having one or two matches in his accumulated bets postponed, maybe due to fans having to protest during a live match, harsh weather condition etc. Do you have an idea about this, by personal experience or about learning of it in any way. A casino rep can help me do the maths how is done for us to know better.

I have this guy that got one match in his bet getting void during last weekend match in laliga, the Rayo Vallecano and Athletic Bilbao match. He was not pleased with the profit that was later given to him to be his won profit out of  what was supposed to be the total profit amount.

[Ruttoshi]

There is no solid information/data on what you are saying and how would we know how much is supposed to be his total profit. If it's a parlay, he should know how much was supposed to be his total profit before the last match was void. Was it the last match that was void? Screenshot his bet slip and upload it here.

Maybe, he should use the odds from all the matches that he won to calculate how much he's supposed to be paid. However, I have the strong feelings that he was paid the right amount of profit because some matches odds are very low because it's a sure win for the club.

[Proty]

 I have had this experience before, I placed a bet of 3 games and one of the matches was postponed. I was paid for the remaining two games, because the two games came out the way I predicted it to be. The calculation is very simple just treat the odd of the postphoned matches as 1.0 and multiply together with the odd of the remaining matches. Let's take for example you stake 3 games with the odds as 3.0,2.0,4.0 respectively. Assuming the total accumulated odd is 24 and it happens the one with 3.0 odd was postponed. Now to get your accumulated odd u need to multiply the two remaining odds which is 2,4 giving us a total of 8 odds. This is how odds are recalculated whenever a game is  postponed .

[Pandu Geddon]

I have experienced it several times in parlay betting. The expectation of winning with a satisfying total odds, but because one of the matches is considered void, the calculation for the odds of the void match will not be counted. And the bookmaker will only calculate the odds of the matches that take place. There should be no difference or reduction in the odds of the ongoing bets.

[DanWalker]

most people confuse this calculation with accumulator and multi bet. But bookmakers don't make it rocket science.
very simple calculation out of all match in your friend's slip, match that has been postponed or void, odds will be assumed to be 1 as Proty already mentioned. That mean selection will be removed from total calculation.


Suppose he had 5 match in his slip, total combined odds of 20.
Now if odds for that Rayo Vallecano vs Bilbao match are 2, what do bookmakers do?
That total will be 20 odds divided by odds of that postponed match.
As a result your new total odds will be four fold, i mean 10.
Means five fold came down to four fold.
Your Stake is still there, but potential profit is reduced because match has not been played!

[IjawMan]

There is no solid information/data on what you are saying and how would we know how much is supposed to be his total profit. If it's a parlay, he should know how much was supposed to be his total profit before the last match was void. Was it the last match that was void? Screenshot his bet slip and upload it here.

Maybe, he should use the odds from all the matches that he won to calculate how much he's supposed to be paid. However, I have the strong feelings that he was paid the right amount of profit because some matches odds are very low because it's a sure win for the club.

My bad, I did not remember asking for the total of the bet odd and this is about a week now when this happened and am in doubt that guy would still hold to that slip.

All I know of is that the total profit was #12 million Naira and with fractions, this is $19,022 dollars. On the cancellation of one of the Rayo Vallecano and Athletic Bilbao match that was in a 2.05 odd the profit drop to #4 million Naira, 3004 in dollars.

[Zigabel]

I have been curious specially as it has not happened to me directly to know how it is calculated and I do not want to wait ontil when it happens to me.

I mean, how the casinos calculate the odds to arrive at the right amount of profit that should be given to a player after having one or two matches in his accumulated bets postponed, maybe due to fans having to protest during a live match, harsh weather condition etc. Do you have an idea about this, by personal experience or about learning of it in any way. A casino rep can help me do the maths how is done for us to know better.

I have this guy that got one match in his bet getting void during last weekend match in laliga, the Rayo Vallecano and Athletic Bilbao match. He was not pleased with the profit that was later given to him to be his won profit out of  what was supposed to be the total profit amount.

I am not really sure if this applies to every casino but from my experience, the time i had a void game and subtractions were made from my winnings, i figured they subtracted the total odd for that particular game that was marked void and subtracted it form the total accumulated odd, along site the bonus worth of that odd that was added to the potential win and then they refunded the deposit worth on that particular pic as 1, which now amounted to the total payout sum.

let me make it more practical, a game had a 1.43 odd put was postponed and marked as void, they regard the 1,43 odd as 1.0 odd and no longer 1.43. which will also mean that the stake amount placed on that odd will be refunded without any addition as it would have been if won, the total sum odd will now be calculated with a -.43 odd and the remaining odd realized will be paid, and for casinos that pays bonuses, they are also going to subtract the bonus worth of the .43 odd to get you actual pay out, so it was more like a refund on that particular game since you didn't win or loose the game. To the best of my knowledge this is what i think happened in my case, i stand to be correct if someone understands it better.

[Queentoshi]

I have been curious specially as it has not happened to me directly to know how it is calculated and I do not want to wait ontil when it happens to me.

What if you make the calculations when it happens to you, and you discover that the casino has short paid you?

I am curious to know, can complaints be made successfully to the casino for complete payment based on the calculation you have made, because I feel you may just be wasting your time as such situations can give the casino an opportunity to manipulate things.

[Charles-Tim]

I mean, how the casinos calculate the odds to arrive at the right amount of profit that should be given to a player after having one or two matches in his accumulated bets postponed, maybe due to fans having to protest during a live match, harsh weather condition etc. Do you have an idea about this, by personal experience or about learning of it in any way. A casino rep can help me do the maths how is done for us to know better.

If it is parlay, just remove the odd of the match that was cancelled and multiply the remaining odds together. That is the calculation. But the gambling sites give bonus if you have more accumulated odds, the higher the odds are getting bigger, the bigger the bonus odds. This could be the reason you did not get the correct odd if you have tried to multiply everything. You will still get a higher odd in total. The additional ones are bonus given for having parlay.

[Findingnemo]

Casinos don't calculated the odds, it is done by the odds provider and mostly the match will be voided and it will be just removed from the league so the rewards will be based on the remaining matches of combined odds, it can differ from one to another bust most likely the user don't lose anything or the casino as well it will be just calculated as null.

[Mrbluntzy]

The time I experience a void game in my accumulated bet, I was not short paid by the bookie but the game that was voided was not counted among the other games that I won, so I just knew that all they did was that they didn't count that particular game and I think that's how all bookies treat parlay that contained a void game. What was said in one of the comments here also made sense to me, some bookies normally add bonus to parlay with many games, so if one or two games is voided in that parlay, I don't know how they also deduct the bonus that was added on top of those games that was voided, what am sure of is that the bookie I used did not under pay me.

[Smartprofit]

As far as I understand, a cancelled bet is included in the accumulator bet with odds of 1. Since the odds in an accumulator bet are multiplied rather than added, the player's losses can be quite significant.🙋

If the odds for the marked match were high, the final payout for the player who won the accumulator bet is significantly reduced. It's like those legendary "X"s that cryptocurrency traders received in 2017 (but in reverse).😉 For example, if the odds for the marked match were 3, the payout after winning the accumulator bet is reduced by a factor of 3! From a financial perspective, this is very painful for the player. After all, they were expecting much more...

Perhaps in this situation, a "Combo Boost" was also present, which was reduced as a result of the match being cancelled. This further reduced the payout for the player who won the accumulator bet.🧑‍💻

[bitLeap]

I have had this experience before, I placed a bet of 3 games and one of the matches was postponed. I was paid for the remaining two games, because the two games came out the way I predicted it to be. The calculation is very simple just treat the odd of the postphoned matches as 1.0 and multiply together with the odd of the remaining matches. Let's take for example you stake 3 games with the odds as 3.0,2.0,4.0 respectively. Assuming the total accumulated odd is 24 and it happens the one with 3.0 odd was postponed. Now to get your accumulated odd u need to multiply the two remaining odds which is 2,4 giving us a total of 8 odds. This is how odds are recalculated whenever a game is  postponed .

It makes sense 2 out of 3 bet are placed and one of the games suddenly gets delayed then those 2 bets have to be paid, it would be very bad if the casino still counts the delayed game as a betting failure which results in all our parlays being failed. I use parlays for almost all of my sports betting, yet I have never once encountered a situation where a match was postponed.

[Su-asa]

A casino rep can help me do the maths how is done for us to know better.

It's easy to do the maths, mate. Imagine you accumulate 3 odds, 2 odd, and 5 odd (3×2×5=30) in a parlay bet; the total odds will be 30 odd. Then, if you stake $1, your total winnings will be 30$ (including your staked amount).

Then if along the lines the 5 odds was voided for any reason at all, the 5 odds will be removed, and your potential winning amount will be reduced. And I think bookmakers calculate this as: 3 odd multiple by 2 odd, multiplied by 1 odd, which will be 6 odd instead of 30 odd (3×2×1=6).
The interesting thing is that removing the voided odd might take a couple of hours before it gets decided.

[Mia Chloe]

I mean, how the casinos calculate the odds to arrive at the right amount of profit that should be given to a player after having one or two matches in his accumulated bets postponed, maybe due to fans having to protest during a live match, harsh weather condition etc. Do you have an idea about this, by personal experience or about learning of it in any way. A casino rep can help me do the maths how is done for us to know better.

As far as I know it's not actually a constant for all casinos so the basically handle it differently depending on how big it casino is and how much liquidity they have to spare. Some casinos will prefer to lock your  funds indirectly and cancel the bet they do this by giving you a wagering requirement so you don't just proceed to withdraw it ASAP.

However for bigger casinos the cancel the bets but most of them will also make any initially promised bonuses void which is kinda rational compared to the later.

[Agbe]

I think that should be a simple thing to know. Each match you are betting on has a odds and when you have a multiple odds and in the waiting list one or two of the matches were void or suspended. The casino will only remove those odds from your accumulated odds and pay you the remaining once. The amount is paid according to the odds a d not the game. That is what I understand gambling.

What Mrbluntzy has said is the way casinos do things in a suspended match or voided match. Once it is voided, that or those games are gone and it is only the remaining ones are counted for payout.

[Versatile_choice]

I have experienced it several times in parlay betting. The expectation of winning with a satisfying total odds, but because one of the matches is considered void, the calculation for the odds of the void match will not be counted. And the bookmaker will only calculate the odds of the matches that take place. There should be no difference or reduction in the odds of the ongoing bets.

The way they calculate the odds most times is so unfair, this made me think that they don't calculate it accordingly they tend to reduce more than the odd that was voided. I might be wrong though, maybe I'm just over thinking things. I don't know if anyone has experienced that before, Although the Truth is all casinos are not the same. Some casinos are very sincere to gamblers especially this aspect of reducing odds due to void while some will just do it however they like since they are in the position to decide what they will give to the gambler, this is the reason why i always avoid those leagues that usually experience this void.

[Silverstonez]

This is something I have experienced over and over, what the bookmaker does is exclude the odds of the void match and then calculate the total odds of the remaining selections to determine the payout. I believe most people have shared their own opinion about how this process works, but base on my own repeated experiences this is how bookmakers handle void match when calculating the final payout. If you are not still satisfied with the explanations you can research it further or contact a bookmaker if you know any.

[Loyang]

Have your person read the casino rules well and use the odds to figure out if they have won the correct amount of money. Not all matches have the same odds, but some matches have much higher odds and some have much lower odds. The odds are set based on how competitive the match is, which team has a higher chance of winning the match, which team is stronger, etc.

[salad daging]

Cancelled bets that are in progress, for example a LaLiga match is delayed, the bet capital is automatically refunded in full, for the freebet will be forfeited.
Likewise, the accumulator parlay odds will be reduced and the completed matches will still be counted, so the sportsbook provider will count the matches until they are completed, there will be no compensation.
Always check the rules of sports betting, usually at the bottom of the terms and conditions.