5W-KILO
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Today at 07:17:32 AM |
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OP you put all your points well together, the most annoying one is withdraw sent but you don't get it in your crypto wallet and you ask them for transaction ID and they can't provide it.
It's simply to judge this, such casinos are scam to be honest, this is why I always avoid new online casinos all together until people in this forum start talking good about the online casino before I can consider it.
There is no medal to be won using new online casinos, i would rather stick to the more popular ones or proven to be good new casinos instead of trying out every new kids on the block.
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danherbias07
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Today at 07:20:01 AM |
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The blockchain confirmation traffic is not 100 percent the problem of the gambling site, so I don't really feel the panic whenever the delay comes from it. But when we use digital cash (fiat), and the delay is from the gambling site to a digital cash application, that worries me if it takes too long. Either the problem is on the end of the gambling site or the cash application. But since cash apps always update their customers if there's maintenance happening, the blame will always be on the online casino.
I think the more frustrating part is when customer support cannot answer your queries when withdrawals are delayed.
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ZeroVinsonN
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Today at 07:25:39 AM |
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4. Bonus wagering requirements: when you collect a bonus from a casino you may be required to pay someone an amount of money before you can withdraw, some gamblers don't know this, and that is why it's advised to read the casino wagering rules carefully before using their bonus.
I want to believe this is a mistake. No rules in a casino demand an account owner pay an amount to another user before making withdrawals. Casinos mostly ask that you deposit first and wager the deposit before the bonus can be withdrawn. The 1x wagering is what most casinos use, there is no way for them to ask you do pay money to someone first before they can approve your withdrawal, the moment a casino says something like this people will immediately start reporting them as scammers, after all one thing most platforms will tell you is to not communicate with a third party so why then would they ask you to send money to a third party, it doesn't work that way and there is no way anyone will trust such a casino.
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davis196
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Today at 07:25:48 AM |
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Signs that your withdrawal has issues
1. When they are giving you senseless excuses upon excuses.
2. When your withdrawal has passed the casino stated process time.
3. They cancelled your withdrawal many times.
4. They freeze your account immediately you won.
5. When they refuse to provide transaction ID when they say they have sent you your money.
Those are signs that the crypto casino is a scam, not that your withdrawal has issues.  I find it funny that you are asking a question and answering that question in the same forum thread, but whatever. It would be nice, if you share with us your personal experience with delayed withdrawals from the crypto casinos, instead of asking generic questions. Every business likes to receive money and hates spending money. We shouldn't be that harsh to the casinos. I've seen many businesses outside the gambling industry acting the same way. They are pretty fast and straight to the point, when it comes to collecting payments, but things begin to look a bit different, when they have to pay someone. 
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ArabBTC
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Today at 07:39:11 AM |
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Delaying withdrawals is just an intentional act by most casinos to prevent bettors from withdrawing their money, truth is most casinos don’t even want you to win, let alone talk about making withdrawals of your win, that is why they normally use delay tactics most times, else tell me why they don’t verify when you want to make deposits, they don’t want to know where you got the money from, they don’t want to know if your account have been flagged before or not, they always gladly accept your deposit in split seconds but once it is now time to withdraw your wins they will now bring all the rules in the world to frustrate you from withdrawing, any casino that delays withdrawal is a big red flag, such a casino cannot be trusted.
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Futurexxx
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Today at 07:44:26 AM |
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Their is no difference between most of these crypto casino and the banks that will always try to stress you anytime they have the opportunity to do so, especially when you tried to make a withdrawal inside the banks, but it's one of those things though.
A casino will not ask for kyc if you make a deposit of 20k at once, but once you try to withdraw the same amount of money immediately, they will start asking for it if you have not done it before, that shows that it is the way the system is designed.
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Cointxz
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Today at 07:56:36 AM |
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This was didn’t included on the list but sometimes the problem is on their payment processor especially if they are using 3rd party services since it usually have some queue due to the number of transactions they are approving.
Delays on withdrawal are inevitable but you will not encounter it frequently on reputable casinos.
Withdrawal delay usually becomes so obvious on scam casino when they are already planning to exit scam.
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popv9
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Today at 08:09:48 AM |
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7 days is outrageous for me. I don't think platforms make you wait that long, they just say that long but could be sooner? I know I play on a site called fortunebox and they have a wd could take up to 24 hours but usually it's nowhere near that. If a person doesn't mind waiting and has read a sites Tos and agrees the wait is fine, then it's fine. I am not saying every site with a wait time is a scam, just gave a scenario. up to seven (7) days and more if needed Why even write the first half? 
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Multani Boy
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Today at 08:20:17 AM |
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Delaying withdrawals is just an intentional act by most casinos to prevent bettors from withdrawing their money, truth is most casinos don’t even want you to win, let alone talk about making withdrawals of your win, that is why they normally use delay tactics most times, else tell me why they don’t verify when you want to make deposits, they don’t want to know where you got the money from, they don’t want to know if your account have been flagged before or not, they always gladly accept your deposit in split seconds but once it is now time to withdraw your wins they will now bring all the rules in the world to frustrate you from withdrawing, any casino that delays withdrawal is a big red flag, such a casino cannot be trusted.
What should concern you is when the casino keeps changing the requirements or does not give you a proper explanation. Some payment delays may occur because of additional verification, but thats not the same as asking for documents only after a win. The Gambling Commission in the UK criticises casinos for that. Customer verification should happen before customers start gambling, not afterwards. So, a brief payment delay is not necessarily a red flag, but you should worry about unnecessary obstacles when withdrawing from a casino.
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GreatArkansas
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Today at 08:24:41 AM |
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The ongoing no-KYC pandemic that is going on now. These casinos have started weaponising KYC. The thing is that they do it so well that they don't even allow you to submit your KYC verification voluntarily, if it were allowed, a lot of gamblers would complete their verification before depositing huge money, but the moment a gambler hits something good or wants to withdraw, they hit them with KYC.
I am now starting to prefer those that bring KYC upfront to those that hide it and later use it against the gambler.
Well, this will be like pros and cons for some businesses, if they want to make fast money , they will do this fast deposit and delay withdrawal, which mostly for sure right now are common, later you will just encounter the KYC when already doing withdrawal. I had one crypto casino before that did this; right after my deposit, my account got locked, and they wanted KYC. About doing KYC upront: you will rarely see platforms like these.
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Awaklara
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Today at 08:32:58 AM |
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That is the reality that happens in many casinos today. Therefore, there are many discussions regarding KYC at the beginning of account registration, so there is no longer any reason for casinos to request KYC verification before withdrawal approval. Although we know there are other reasons that casinos may want to take related to big wins. If we do not win in large amounts, maybe the problem also does not occur.
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yudi09
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Today at 08:39:50 AM |
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The issue of long wait times when players make withdrawals has become a serious concern for major casinos that have maintained a good reputation since they began operations. For new casinos, slow withdrawals—which are frequently complained about by players—are also a serious concern. One of the factors that keeps players engaged and comfortable playing indefinitely is the deposit and withdrawal process. When such issues arise, they respond quickly. As for why delays might occur—along with the casino’s explanations—this may have been outlined in the Terms of Service (ToS) from the outset.
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TopTort777
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Today at 08:53:10 AM |
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OP you put all your points well together, the most annoying one is...
Most annoying is when you make a withdrawal and nothing happens, and you have to ask support what is going on. It is so annoying when casino put your withdrawal on hold, but never announce you that there is an issue, you need to provide something or violated something. They want you to act first and find out what is the reason, instead of notifying you there is an issue. Moreover, when there is an issue with your withdrawal and they wait for you to verify your account or provide origin of funds, they still allow you to make deposits  Even if deposit and withdrawal is one and the same address  Suspicious address if fine for deposit but bad for withdrawal 
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Jubilee58
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Today at 08:57:18 AM |
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2. KYC verification: after some KYC verifications have been done by you the casino takes time to go through it again
While some casino platforms does not see kyc to be a necessity for making deposits, and withdrawal, there are some that deem it necessary for gamblers to complete before before they can issue payment, and in most cases it happens when their is a huge win. Sometimes a casino platform can allow you to make withdrawal of fund from a very small win, but they become very strict, and thorough when it involves big amount of money. This process of verification before payment is not a bad one because without such strict verification, it is possible that your money can go into someone else account, and the casino will be the one to blame. The delay in payment might not be to deny your wins, but to ensure the real owner gets his or her money without errors. However, verification process should have time limit, and the casino site should not let the payment delay, and the owner of the money should receive alert immediately verification has been completed to maintain the casino's reliability, and trustworthiness.
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mak013
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Today at 09:04:37 AM |
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One of the things that gamblers always complain about is the fact that they can deposit and it will reflect in the casino very fast however, when they place withdraw it will take a very long time for it to drop.
Now these are the reasons why casinos delay withdrawal.
1. Security check: casinos will delay your withdrawal because they want to verify if you are the one actually withdrawing and no body hacked your casino account.
2. KYC verification: after some KYC verifications have been done by you the casino takes time to go through it again.
3. Blockchain confirmation: this is another reason why your withdrawal can be delayed and not actually the fault of the casino.
4. Bonus wagering requirements: when you collect a bonus from a casino you may be required to pay someone an amount of money before you can withdraw, some gamblers don't know this, and that is why it's advised to read the casino wagering rules carefully before using their bonus.
5. Manual approval: some casinos are not using the automatic withdrawal process, they are using the manual withdrawal process which means one of their staff has to verify and approve the withdrawal first before it gets to you.
6. Liquidity problems: some casinos don't have money available to pay winners and that's why they deliberately withhold your money.
1. If I use the same wallet for both deposits and withdrawals, that's a silly reason. 2. I always say KYC should be done at registration, or the gambler should have time to prepare for it. But casinos have something in their ToS like "we may ask you to complete KYC whenever we decide to", and registration without KYC is justified by "because gamblers want to start playing faster". Bullshit. It's a casino trick to freeze your money. 3. Agreed, but these days it's fast enough. 4. So-so. The casino should do it automatically — which means instantly. 5. Awful. Stay away from casinos like that. 6. Bullshit. It means the casino isn't planning to pay. Or they're using money that should be reserved for payouts for something else. Ok, that's possible if you win the jackpot. That's all. Signs that your withdrawal has issues
1. When they are giving you senseless excuses upon excuses.
2. When your withdrawal has passed the casino stated process time.
3. They cancelled your withdrawal many times.
4. They freeze your account immediately you won.
5. When they refuse to provide transaction ID when they say they have sent you your money.
All these signs means that it is too late to withdraw. You already lost your money.
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Cityhunter34
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Today at 09:08:00 AM |
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Their is no difference between most of these crypto casino and the banks that will always try to stress you anytime they have the opportunity to do so, especially when you tried to make a withdrawal inside the banks, but it's one of those things though.
A casino will not ask for kyc if you make a deposit of 20k at once, but once you try to withdraw the same amount of money immediately, they will start asking for it if you have not done it before, that shows that it is the way the system is designed.
Absolutely no difference at all, because they always make sure that customers' funds are safe and secure at the times. Deposits are always easy to do, but immediately you want to withdraw the money, you must go through everything needed before they will be able to make it successful. So there is absolutely nothing to worry about, because the good is that you will surly make your withdrawal after everything. That's simple truth.
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fredericktaylor
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Today at 09:08:33 AM |
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A casino always wants you to stay in the casino for a long time. There can be various reasons for holding your money in the casino for a long time but most of the time the purpose of holding money is that when you cannot withdraw money when you need it, you will come back to the casino and at a time when you cannot withdraw money, you will be attracted to gambling again. As a result, you will gradually lose all your money and the casino will profit. So the casino holds the money of the gamblers by giving various excuses. This is a strategy of the casino through which the casino can gain more money from you.
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dwyane36
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Today at 09:10:33 AM |
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In many In many casinos, getting in is easy, but getting out is not so simple. A few years ago, scammers had a trick: when they just received a casino bonus, they immediately withdrew it. There were many guides on the internet on how to "cheat" casinos using different IP addresses and different browser fingerprints. But, fortunately, this stopped quickly, and the casinos began demanding wagering and some of the player's own amount to stop cheating, and, naturally, the checks became thorough. Now the casino's anti-fraud systems work like those of bank applications, which are difficult to circumvent, but still the withdrawal of winnings requires human verification.
It's a double-edged sword. On the one hand, every casino needs to offer some kind of easily accessible bonus to attract the audience's attention. On the other hand, as soon as abusers catch wind of this, they'll immediately start cheating the casino using bots. It's worth noting that, as part of their efforts to combat bots, some casinos not only set requirements for deposits and withdrawals but also restrict access to bonuses for those who haven't reached a minimum VIP tier.
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ZeroVinsonN
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Today at 09:28:17 AM |
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Signs that your withdrawal has issues
1. When they are giving you senseless excuses upon excuses.
2. When your withdrawal has passed the casino stated process time.
3. They cancelled your withdrawal many times.
4. They freeze your account immediately you won.
5. When they refuse to provide transaction ID when they say they have sent you your money.
All these signs means that it is too late to withdraw. You already lost your money. The earlier people accept that the better, at this point the best thing anyone can do is to just report the casino to places like this forum here and every other discussion forums they belong to so that they can help warn people not to use scam casinos like that one. At the very least, the more people know about them the less likely they are to scam others as well and on the off chance they are somewhat legit they will have to make solid moves to clear their image which will lead to them offering better withdrawal services.
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Rashlyowl
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Even if a casino has their process of verification for the release of the withdrawn amount, still, they must have a policy that withdrawals should not take at least a day to be awarded. Most casinos nowadays advertise themselves as "fast and instant withdrawals" only as a marketing ploy and a scheme to attract customers. However in reality, some of their withdrawals would take days for its confirmation thereby contradicting what they have advertised.
My last manual withdrawal didn't take more than 1 day, it only took about 8 hours from the time I made the withdrawal request. If the withdrawal process ends up taking days, I don’t think anyone would play there. If that stems from your real experience, I have two questions about it. (1) Does that site advertise through signature campaigns on this forum? (2) What is the name of the site?
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