I remember the days where I really hate casinos that collects KYC but my hate changes slowly as I accepted the fact that casinos can't evade regulators and we as a customer couldn't do anything, in short I just accepted it and now I have a mindset that any casino can request my information anytime that they want to.
I'd still love decentralization but most of the reputable casinos are licensed and is required to collect KYC from their customers. If ever there's a good rep decentralized casino that has my favorite games, I wouldn't mind to be their customer.
Collecting KYC just became the standard of casinos. It is far from before where we can see decentralized casinos popping out of no where and gamblers are playing on it. On our current time, I don't think launching as a decentralized casino can be considered a selling point. Majority of us had submitted countless KYC and accepted the fact that it is the norm. Playing on a casino that won't collect a KYC isn't that revolutionary, at least for me

In that case, I have a solution for you. You should look for a licensed, decentralized Web3 casino.
It’s regulated just like a Web2 casino, but it allows you to play directly from a non-custodial anonymous wallet - which, in a sense, lets you bypass the need for KYC. Sounds pretty good, right?

Do you think Web3 will help the decentralized space survive, or will everything just move toward full regulation and centralization?
If the developers of Web3 are fully dedicated to their work, I believe it can help the decentralized space survive. It is known that the true WEB3 can remove a single point of control and by implementing it on every web3 application, distributing control across independent participants and actively promoting the benefits of a WEB3 application then I think it can greatly help the decentralized space survive.
Although we might see a two-path here, I believe these two, one centralized casino operation and the other a decentralized casino operation, can coexist in harmony because people have their own preference when dealing with casino and financial privacy.
I completely agree with you. However, for the decentralized sector to capture a much larger share of the cryptocurrency market, including the casino space, we simply need to talk about the possibilities that Web3 offers. In my view, people don’t yet fully understand how it works, which is why they don’t trust the technology - a perfectly understandable reaction, given that the same was for cryptocurrencies in the early days (or even years). In my opinion key to keep expansion for decentralization is simply education about Web3.
And yet, on a Bitcointalk forum, founded with the core principle of decentralization in mind, it is Web3 that should be promoted - not a push toward centralization. At least that’s what I think.
It's not the Bitcointalk forum that promoted centralized casinos; any legit project that transacts using Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies is free to come here and promote their project.
Bitcointalk has nothing to do with this; it's the least of their concerns. If you think that Web3 should be the popular type of casinos, then prove it yourself by promoting your platform and making it in the top 10, and let the gambling community choose where they want to play. The majority always wins.
As far as I know, the Bitcointalk forum itself hasn’t promoted anything at all since Themos removed the advertisements. My point was that a few years ago, the community used to bash casinos that required KYC, whereas now they bash casinos that operate without a license (and thus without KYC).
Regarding promotion, I believe education is the key here. The community first needs to understand how Web3 works, to grasp the difference between Web2 and Web3, and then decide what they prefer: decentralization (which this forum was created to promote) or regulation and centralization.
I believe that once people realize there is an option for decentralized, licensed casinos, which allow for anonymity by connecting a non-custodial wallet (effectively bypassing KYC), they will increasingly choose Web3 casinos. They simply need to understand how it works first, and then learn how to use it safely. It’s the same thing that happened in the early days of cryptocurrencies.
Now that regulation for casinos is increasingly mandatory, then this will be a centralization they need a license then it must follow the government rules that are made.
Check it out, is the casino now centralized or decentralized that survives? This has become commonplace for us as we move towards getting everything regulated... His principal casino DEX will increasingly in abandon.
Honestly... as things stand now I have to be prepared with the KYC/AML policy any casino will implement its.
I agree that, with each passing day, there are fewer and fewer casinos that do not require KYC. That is why a decentralized Web3 casino is a great solution. It may hold a license, same as Web2 casinos, but it allows you to play using an anonymous, non-custodial wallet. This makes it possible to bypass the KYC requirement and still play on regulated casino.
It will get worse, yes. I think the regulation will continue to advance, but I do not think it will reach the 100% of market. I think it is more likely that there will be coexistence between a highly regulated commercial market on one side and a space for open protocols, for self-custody and decentralized applications on the other, obviously with far fewer options and less appeal.
But you know what I find controversial about the thinking of people who say this?
Accept crypto never necessarily meant decentralization... a casino receives Bitcoin, holds the users balance, controls the games and "decides" when release withdrawals. So, even without KYC it remains a centralized intermediary, and that is why governments saw the "weak point" there to target and impose regulations.
It is the same with exchanges... if we stuck to P2P, we would never have these problems.
So, there is no point in blaming casinos or exchanges if we are the ones who chose centralization and the most vulnerable point to trust with our crypto.
Actually, I agree with you, though I would like to add a point to what you’ve said.
While regulation will continue to advance, I believe that, thanks to Web3 technology, decentralization could end up having a larger share of the market than you might anticipate.
Web3 is, in fact, the solution to the issue you described - specifically regarding the deposits that are standard in Web2. In Web3 casinos, you don’t make deposits, instead, you play directly from your own non-custodial wallet, relying solely on trust in the blockchain. In my view, this is precisely what decentralization is, and it’s one of the things the blockchain was created for in the first place.
I believe the tendency towards centralization and regulated KYC casinos will continue and those casinos will accumulate the majority of the volume of deposits.
However, that does not mean we will see the end of decentralized casinos or decentralized bookies.
As long as there are people who are not willing to give their personal information to casinos and bookies and as long as the Blockchain continues to run, people will have the option to gamble in a decentralized manner.
Not matter how much regulation there is, we won't see the end of decentralized and Web 3 casinos.
You’re restoring my faith in humanity!!!

I wish there were more voices like yours, because I share that view. However, I’d also like to see us promote decentralization more - specifically Web3 technology in the context of casinos - so that decentralization ends up claiming a larger slice of the entire cryptocurrency market pie than the regulated sector does.
In a lot of cases for crypto casinos anyways the regulations are mainly for the protection and assurance of the users. Because there can tend to be a lot of scammers and bad actors out there I actually think that the regulations is a good thing for gambling.
In that case, I’m surprised you spend time on Bitcointalk, since this forum was created precisely to fight against regulation and promote decentralization.
However, this does not change the fact that, in a certain sense, decentralization can be regulated. A case in point is Web3 casinos, which hold licenses yet allow for anonymous play (bypassing KYC procedures) directly from a non-custodial wallet.
However, that does not mean we will see the end of decentralized casinos or decentralized bookies.
There is decentralized casinos, but I don't see a decentralized bookies... ( plz give me one example).
Of course there are decentralized sportsbooks, you just have to look more closely
we won't see the end of decentralized and Web 3 casinos.
But those popular web3 casinos have license already, ( can we call them decentralized in a way you describe them?)
They can indeed be called decentralized, because KYC/AML processes in them work in almost the opposite way to how they do in Web2.
In Web2, KYC is primarily used to block withdrawals (perhaps only 1 in 100 casinos requires KYC at the point of registration). In Web3, however, enforcing KYC is practically impossible when you play directly from a non-custodial wallet, simply because they cannot manipulate the blockchain. This is, among other things, exactly the kind of use case for which the blockchain was created.
I feel like after a few years, things have completely flipped. Now, KYC/AML and licenses are the norm, and the community even expects them.
Fukin bullshit,,

Those who are complying with KYC now are doing so not out of support, but out of fear.
Maybe following experience with stuck withdrawal or frozen account, many gambler now consider licensed casino to be less risky, idk.
This is fukin compromise, not any change of ideal.
So, are we just supposed to blindly parrot "this is what the community wants now" like bunch of mindless cattle, without giving it any real thought!
It is natural that people would often choose security - that is, regulation and centralization. But if that is what they want, why use cryptocurrencies at all? After all, they could simply play in regulated, secure casinos using fiat currency.
Bitcointalk and cryptocurrencies were created with decentralization in mind. Today, the way to uphold and continue promoting decentralization is through Web3 technology. You can play completely anonymously from your own non-custodial wallet in a casino that holds the same Anjouan license as about 80% of Web2 casinos. While licensed Web3 casinos may have KYC/AML policies in ToS, they cannot effectively enforce them because you are playing directly from your wallet. Furthermore, since they have no ability to manipulate the blockchain, they cannot block your withdrawals. Once people grasp this, they will come to appreciate decentralization once again.