Are bonuses getting worse or players just get harder to fool?

[m0nica.just]

Been looking at how some projects approach rewards and honestly i'm starting to question the whole bonus model wth

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

Give me some decent rakeback or actual cashback over a locked balance with a fancy number attached to it!

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

[Zigabel]

I will obviously go with the cashback because these conditions for the bonuses obviously ain't supposed to favour the gamblers, rather its just another means to rake back money into the casino, they just use that to attract gamblers knowing a good number of them will not really read the conditions attached untill they want to make withdrawal after a fee wins that's not up to the required wagering conditions,  there they will keep them back from withdrawing and get them compelled to play some more in order to fulfill the conditions but most likely will loose all the money before they are able to meet up with the conditions.

I think gamblers are becoming smarter and harder to fool because its becoming clear the intentions behind  the bonuses isn't really to favour you but a bait to get you in and using  the casino.

[goldkingcoiner]

Been looking at how some projects approach rewards and honestly i'm starting to question the whole bonus model wth

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

Give me some decent rakeback or actual cashback over a locked balance with a fancy number attached to it!

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

Bonuses have always been a marketing tactic but just like with every other product or service, the greed of corporations cannot ever be satiated. It only grows and grows. And the people who buy the service or product are the very ones who get screwed over. Whether by raising prices or by reducing quality for whatever reason. Nowadays things break because people are supposed to buy new things asap.

The same thing is happening in casinos.

Except with things like bonuses. Obviously the bonuses get worse and worse and at some point become nothing more than an illusion. Casinos have completely stripped bonuses of all of what made it good. Nowadays they are not worth even thinking about.

[Versatile_choice]

5% cashback is certainly what every gamblers would go for since it doesn't have any terms or condition, sometimes I used to ask about this bonus they usually give; most people think the casino is doing well by giving out bonus to users but if you look at the conditions that is attached to each bonus giving to gamblers you will not be happy with it. Personally I stopped using this bonus because the conditions that is applied to those bonus is way too much for me and there's no way I can meet up those requirements without losing that is why I prefer gambling with my own personal cash than to waste my time in chasing after bonus.

[decodx]

I still remember my early days in online gambling well. Back then, I spent a long time hunting for every signup perk I could find... And man I learned my lesson the hard way. killed off my bankroll on these insane wagering requirements just to get a pretty number on screen. Never again.

As goldkingcoiner already mentioned bonuses are a marketing tactic to attract new players. I do not even pay attention to them anymore so I am not sure if the terms have gotten worse or not. Meeting those wagering requirements has always been a mission impossible.

Give me the 5% cashback any day tbvh. It's not a even debate, at this point.

[sunsilk]

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

5% cashback is easy money and if it can be withdrawn without any other requirements, this is the better choice.

But for someone who's got a lot of time getting that 200% bonus which isn't bad either. It's time consuming and you'll never know if the bankroll you have there will be safe even before you finish that quest.

Both are good choices depending on the perspective of who's looking at it.

[Fortify]

Been looking at how some projects approach rewards and honestly i'm starting to question the whole bonus model wth

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

Give me some decent rakeback or actual cashback over a locked balance with a fancy number attached to it!

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

I've seen bad casino bonuses for decades already, they are definitely not something new. However every year there is a new horde of younger generation players who are primed and ready to fall for them. That's who these bonuses are really aimed at - people who have not been stung and learned from how difficult it is to actually make the money promised. There will be a small amount of fools who keep trying them or thinking they can beat the system even though they probably end up paying much more than they realized. If you are a long term gambler you should really be watching the VIP programs and almost disregard the offers, because they can often tie your money up and even prevent it from being withdrawn until playthrough levels are reached.

[Ruttoshi]

The answer is simple and I don't think that anyone would love to worn himself out playing for a very long time because of huge bonus with a very high wager requirement. I will go for 5% cashback that I can withdraw. However, some greedy gamblers will go for 300% bonus because their instinct tells them they can end up making profit.

[Smartprofit]

I still remember my early days in online gambling well. Back then, I spent a long time hunting for every signup perk I could find... And man I learned my lesson the hard way. killed off my bankroll on these insane wagering requirements just to get a pretty number on screen. Never again.

As goldkingcoiner already mentioned bonuses are a marketing tactic to attract new players. I do not even pay attention to them anymore so I am not sure if the terms have gotten worse or not. Meeting those wagering requirements has always been a mission impossible.

Give me the 5% cashback any day tbvh. It's not a even debate, at this point.

Cashback, in my opinion, is also a bad option... Cashback is paid only on your net losses. No cashback is paid on winnings. And I prefer winning, not losing.🙋

Cashback is beneficial for the casino because the casino doesn't lose anything. If you lose money, they'll return a small portion of it. Then you'll start playing at the casino again and lose again. By the way, to increase the cashback percentage, you usually have to lose a lot. That is, to prove yourself an elite loser.😉

The best option is to play with your own money. This frees the player from unnecessary illusions. If you're looking for a replacement for a bonus, it's probably not cashback, but rakeback. Rakeback, in my opinion, is a fair deal. It's paid on your entire turnover, not on your losses. This means the player has an incentive to play, win, and receive rakeback. 🧑‍💻

[Silverstonez]

Give me some decent rakeback or actual cashback over a locked balance with a fancy number attached to it!

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

Some casinos are just too damn good at making a bad deal look like a golden opportunity.  And the funny part about the deal is that you end up gambling your money just to unlock money that was never really yours to begin with.  It pains me that a lot of bettors fall for the big numbers without realizing that the real value is not in how much casinos offer's you but in how much of your own money you can actually spend.

[Livingleged]

Been looking at how some projects approach rewards and honestly i'm starting to question the whole bonus model wth

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

Give me some decent rakeback or actual cashback over a locked balance with a fancy number attached to it!

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

You think those platforms are so foolish to give those huge bonuses without wagering requirements? Those companies literally want to lock you down and suck you until you probably roll your bank without meeting the withdrawals requirement. I’ll rather just prefer the 5% cash back than any 200% bonus with 40x wagering that won’t let me withdraw until I mean wagering requirements.

[Josefjix]

The answer is simple and I don't think that anyone would love to worn himself out playing for a very long time because of huge bonus with a very high wager requirement. I will go for 5% cashback that I can withdraw. However, some greedy gamblers will go for 300% bonus because their instinct tells them they can end up making profit.

Majority of newbies who thinks going for 300% bonus is possible will definitely make a try and rethink back after discovering that getting it is impossible. Besides, it won't be easy to get anything with high percentage like that except a gambler knows the cheat code to navigate through it. Only an old player who have tried multiple times will chose 5% rakeback.

[taufik123]

Kaisno already has a system that they have set up themselves, but if gambling is legal and has a clear and audited certificate, then the system will be regulated according to the rules that have been set.
If the game gets harder and the winnings don't make any profit in the end, there will be some restrictions that occur for each account and every time we play, everything is set by the system

For rakeback, it will be a good choice than a bonus, because rakeback does not have any special rules,
but for bonuses it will usually also be given according to what has been promised, even though it looks difficult to achieve the bonus.

[Agbe]

You made a very important observation when it comes to Crypto currencies gambling, with the recent surge in the number of online based Casins . One thing that all these casinos has used in trapping people are these so called bonuses that are in the real sense use to hold down gamblers from gambling the more. Just as you have said what is the need of giving bugus bonuses, when there is a condition of wagering involved. Whether you say that the casinos are following the us the gamblers or not bonuses are one key aspect of online gambling that most gamblers are crazy about.

[Jaycoinz]

Why would anyone even consider taking the first option, a 300% bonus with a 40x wagering requirement? It's a stupid thing that these casinos do, but it's become the norm at every casino to actually come up with these crazy bonuses to attract and trap gamblers because that's what I take out of all these bonuses. The last time I even tried to claim this sort of bonus was with BC.game casino and it was a long time ago, now I just genuinely use a casino if I want to and nothing concerns me about the bonuses they offer because I know that's an impossible task in the end.

[Asuspawer09]

The cashback surely was a good bonus and that is what mostly most of the users is going to pick for sure because it is just a better option than just trying hard on the 40x wagering with 200%.

I mean most of the time users are going to get hook by the marketing of bonuses I mean it work for sure to a lot of users, seeing the tag line was going to encourage them to gamble more for sure I mean it was really attractive at first but casino do trick most of the users so that they would just end up playing more or staying on the platform having more screen time on the casino. There are even worst casino putting a almost scam trick where players are encourage to complete the mission or just to hit the VIP level not expecting the bonus was just too low or have another condition.

Personally, I don't really mind anymore at this point because chasing those bonuses or VIPs is just a waste of time these days, you will just end up losing more and playing more, and the risk is just wasn't worth it.

[salad daging]

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

The bigger the deposit you make, the bigger the bonus will be, but unfortunately the bonus must be locked to complete the 40x high wagering requirement. It has indeed been many casinos do just some sort of marketing trick to attract the attention of customers, so they design the rules as strictly as possible.

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

It is better to choose a 5% cashback than a 200% bonus only we voluntarily play who at his tip does not win anything.

[adultcrypto]

Been looking at how some projects approach rewards and honestly i'm starting to question the whole bonus model wth

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

Give me some decent rakeback or actual cashback over a locked balance with a fancy number attached to it!

I don't really like bonuses that come with outrageous conditions because they are just like waste of time. The few times I have enjoyed bonuses were max 2x wagering requirements and I was lucky to cashout a few of them. Beside that, I hardly put my mind into bonuses and even if I'm offered, I burn the recklessly.

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

I will prefer 5% cashback to 200% bonus with 40x wagering condition. The cashback is money I can withdraw and that is all that I'm interested in.

[ColdLava40]

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

This should be something new or revealing.

We already understand that casinos offer those bonus as a marketing and promotional means to players.

It  is intended to draw players to their site and not to make them money. Only a few times someone would be lucky being able to unlock such bonus.

It's almost nothing to impossible because of the huge wagering requirements that is placed on the bonus. I will surely go with the rake back offer but I have seen some that also comes with at least 1x wagering requirements too to unlock.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I still remember my early days in online gambling well. Back then, I spent a long time hunting for every signup perk I could find... And man I learned my lesson the hard way. killed off my bankroll on these insane wagering requirements just to get a pretty number on screen. Never again.

As goldkingcoiner already mentioned bonuses are a marketing tactic to attract new players. I do not even pay attention to them anymore so I am not sure if the terms have gotten worse or not. Meeting those wagering requirements has always been a mission impossible.

Give me the 5% cashback any day tbvh. It's not a even debate, at this point.

Cashback, in my opinion, is also a bad option... Cashback is paid only on your net losses. No cashback is paid on winnings. And I prefer winning, not losing.🙋

You know a lot of these commenters don't even understand how cashbacks work. They think they stand a chance to get rewarded when they make a deposit but, perhaps on a much lower scale.

On the other hand, let's make no bones about this--- you'd definitely lose as long as you play, whether it be casino games or sport books. What is important is to not allow the negative outbalance the positive. Even if, somehow, you lost control and was not able to quit on time, cash backs can be a little compensation for that mistake I guess.

That is, to prove yourself an elite loser.😉

The way you coined those two words sent me off