Are bonuses getting worse or players just get harder to fool?

[Ojima-ojo]

Cash back are calculated based on your total amount of wagered with in a given period of time, cash back are mostly awarded at the end of every month this comes as sometime low wager conditions or even free off any conditions.
Unlike casino bonuses that is always accompany with large amount of wagering requirements, and conditions that make taking those bonuses a total waste of time for gamblers and that s why most don't boder taking bonuses for whatever reasons.

[Sammysmart001]

The best option is to play with your own money. This frees the player from unnecessary illusions. If you're looking for a replacement for a bonus, it's probably not cashback, but rakeback. Rakeback, in my opinion, is a fair deal. It's paid on your entire turnover, not on your losses. This means the player has an incentive to play, win, and receive rakeback. 🧑‍💻

Most players do confuses cashback with rakeback but this works very differently. Deposit bonuses with about 40x wagering are just traps design to lock funds, cash back does pays only when you lose.

Rakeback only is the reward model that actually do respects the player. Whether one loses or win you get paid base on your total betting volume. That the only real perk worth looking for.

[coinlary]

That 200% bonus mean alot to some people who  gambles very well. It's not a free money but at the same time, it gives you a chance to get a free money if you know how to outsmart it and still win some good profit without losing your deposit .

I don't do either ot the two but if I'm to choose between both then I may go for the the  bonus with fair conditions, not all requires 40x some require some thing lesser than even half of that.

[Stalker22]

better to call things what they are.  A casino bonus with such high wagering requirements... is basically just a trap dressed up as a generous gift.  I used to fall for the 300% hype all the time.  Oh look, free money!  Except it is not.   And here is where the funny part  begins. Every time I see such a fat promo with a high percentage my brain does that stupid little dopamine dance for a split of a second just before realising the whole grind behind it.

So to answer your question... Yeah, I choose the 5% cashback every single time.  Even though I know damn well I will probably just lose the cashback too, at least its on my own terms.

[Davidvictorson]

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

That's the catch. They know we do not bother reading the terms before agreeing to it. So essentially, the money remains theirs. That is a good business strategy.

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

I'd rather have the 5% cashback you can actually withdraw anytime, any day. At least you know the outcome in the end.

[Patikno]

Been looking at how some projects approach rewards and honestly i'm starting to question the whole bonus model wth

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

Basically, there is nothing wrong with that, because the bonus is large enough to meet the requirements. If the requirements were very easy, gamblers would profit greatly, and it would be like giving away free money without any challenges. Wouldn't it only be detrimental to one party ? You should already know the answer.

Well, it all depends on your decision whether or not to accept a bonus with such difficult requirements. There is no pressure to activate it, and all the rules can be checked before claiming it.

It would be different; if there are circumstances that force you to do it, then it will look like cheating. I don't think there is anything like that afaik, everything is transparent, as long as you are not in a hurry to skip reading the terms and conditions.

[tiCeR]

Been looking at how some projects approach rewards and honestly i'm starting to question the whole bonus model wth

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

Give me some decent rakeback or actual cashback over a locked balance with a fancy number attached to it!

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

If there were any reliable statistics about how any players actually claim those deposit bonuses, my guess would be that most of those who sign up just forfeit that bonus. Yet it could have an eye catching psychological effect maybe? When you access their websites? But for those who have been gambling on a few websites, have gathered some experience, know that it usually makes no sense to claim those bonuses and lock your funds.

One alternative explanation could be VIP transfers. I don't know how it works for them, but I can imagine they get favorable treatment in relation to those advertised bonuses.

To answer your actual question, the cashback makes far more sense. There have been bonuses like double the deposit and realistic wagering conditions, but most casinos go the way you just talked about and I have been wondering how many people really go with those bonuses or just skip them and try the casino out for reasons other than the bonus.

[serjent05]

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

If you asked me to choose between 200% bonus with 40x wagering requirement and 5% cashback then I won't hesitate to choose the 5% cashback.

I have lots of experience on taking bonuses with wagering requirements.  Even with a smaller 30x wagering requirement, players are having a hard time to meet the needed requirement. I, too, had experienced this, and I always failed to meet the requirements.  So I'd rather have the extra percentage given on cashback that is ready to be withdrawn.

What makes the bonus worse is that some casinos have designated games where the bonus funds can be played, and the wagering points won't kick in as long as the deposited funds are not depleted.  This is why I always skip these 200%, 300%, 400% bonuses with a 40x wagering requirement.

[Hypnosis00]

We've been deceived most of the time with these huge bonuses. Most casinos, especially new ones, come up with a huge offer to hook gamblers. For an experienced gambler, they don't take bonuses as an important thing to consider when choosing a casino to play with.

And in regard to your question, OP, I'd rather have the 5% cashback instead because it was nearly possible than hope for a 200% bonus. I don't say that the casino won't give it, but with the nature of its requirement, before a gambler receives it, it seems too far. Perhaps it is a smart decision for a gambler to make.

[uneng]

If players are getting harder to fool, I think it's true, because I've been seeing lots of comments regards this matter nowadays from gamblers, even though such bonuses have been around for years already. So they are definitely not getting worse.

What gamblers can do is to ignore such bonuses, so casinos will feel encouraged to change their offers to ones which reward gamblers for real. Bonuses don't have to guarantee big money to gamblers, rather they should give small, but guaranteed amounts of money for gamblers, so they could feel it's a real prize they can have some fun placing bets, or saving on balance until being able to cashout.

[POPOLUV]

5% cashback is certainly what every gamblers would go for since it doesn't have any terms or condition, sometimes I used to ask about this bonus they usually give; most people think the casino is doing well by giving out bonus to users but if you look at the conditions that is attached to each bonus giving to gamblers you will not be happy with it. Personally I stopped using this bonus because the conditions that is applied to those bonus is way too much for me and there's no way I can meet up those requirements without losing that is why I prefer gambling with my own personal cash than to waste my time in chasing after bonus.

There is one faithful day when i was given a huge amount of bonus stake with and as the condition might comes with, the bonus do not permit to play with all games and those games i can be able to stake with the bonus, and the one i was able to stake with the bonus, i stake threa games on my online betting site, and the two of games happened to play the way i predicted them and last game was void and this void showed the the has been postponed and instead of them to leave money with me, the bonus disappeared to the air, and from that moment I'm very careful of anything concerning bonus, so if should read terms and conditions thoroughly you will not give a bonus listen ear when sees one.

[Cantsay]

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

The wagering requirement is already a big turn-off for me. Why would I subject myself to this kind of stress, for what reason exactly? This is the reason why I don't bother with those bonuses with those high wagering requirements, especially welcome bonuses, and some casinos still think that it's a big deal... People already know the difficulty involved in achieving such a feat.

I would rather you just give me a decent cashback or rakeback, I don't want to chase the wind by opting for a bonus with a 40x wagering requirement.

[Homemade-IQ]

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

I have not business chasing bonuses because the wagering requirement are most times too high.  And one bad thing about it is that you will get carried away gambling uncontrollably just because you want to unlock a bonus that is not possible, so you will likely drive yourself closer to addiction, due to the high frequency of your gambling activities, so it's because of that I don't even look at bonuses once I notice that it has a wagering requirement that needs to be met before it can be unlocked, because it's a trap that should be avoided.

I will choose a cashbacks over a bonus that has a wagering requirement any day anytime because it's more safer and healthy than a bonus with wagering conditions which may drag you to addiction without you even knowing it.

[Pandorak]

Been looking at how some projects approach rewards and honestly i'm starting to question the whole bonus model wth

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

Give me some decent rakeback or actual cashback over a locked balance with a fancy number attached to it!

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

If i really had to choose, it wouldn’t take much thought, i’d definitely go for the 5% cashback right away without a second thought. The reason is that the money can be withdrawn or used immediately without any wagering requirements.

However, if you have plenty of free time and want to maximize your profits, the 200% bonus is the way to go. Even though you’ll have to wager your money multiple times due to the 40x wagering requirement and there’s a good chance your balance will run out before you meet the requirements, for those who enjoy this kind of challenge, this bonus offer will always be worth considering.

[2Pizza410000BTC]

Been looking at how some projects approach rewards and honestly i'm starting to question the whole bonus model wth

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

Give me some decent rakeback or actual cashback over a locked balance with a fancy number attached to it!

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

People always try to find something easy, so I think many people will choose cashback because no one will ever take a 200% bonus by wagering 40x, and people rarely chase bonuses these days. Those who are not really busy and always have free time may have time to chase bonuses. For my part, if I say that I will never take a 200% bonus by wagering 40x I always believe in cash, which is why I will buy cashback and no matter how small it is.

[Alphakilo]

Been looking at how some projects approach rewards and honestly i'm starting to question the whole bonus model wth

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

Give me some decent rakeback or actual cashback over a locked balance with a fancy number attached to it!

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

People always try to find something easy, so I think many people will choose cashback because no one will ever take a 200% bonus by wagering 40x, and people rarely chase bonuses these days. Those who are not really busy and always have free time may have time to chase bonuses. For my part, if I say that I will never take a 200% bonus by wagering 40x I always believe in cash, which is why I will buy cashback and no matter how small it is.

For me, the 5% cashback is a good deal anytime and any day because these massive bonuses with as much as a 40x wagering requirements is a big trap that would surely drain my capital when i know that capital preservation is a number rule of risk management in gambling to contain too much loss.
However, it's open secret about the freedom and access to liquidity that a real cashback offers and that's why my decision stands on that 5%.

[rbynxx]

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

I'd take the latter coz it's easier and doesn't goes through much hassle. Imagine that 40 times and I bet most don't even get to 10x and even if they do it's probably just some sort of luck that so rare it will make you wonder how it happens too. That is why people are probably sick on it and probably doesn't care anymore because there's nothing to really amazing on those bonuses unless it really is a valuable one.

[rachael9385]

The answer is simple and I don't think that anyone would love to worn himself out playing for a very long time because of huge bonus with a very high wager requirement. I will go for 5% cashback that I can withdraw. However, some greedy gamblers will go for 300% bonus because their instinct tells them they can end up making profit.

A lot of gamblers don't think this way and it's end up affecting them in the long run, I would also go for the cash back than going for a bonus that does not even guarantee making profit. The instincts of a lot of gamblers is that going for bonuses is an opportunity to win but choosing a bonus over a cashback shows a high level of greed and desperation to make profits but every gambler has their mentality on this.

[EluguHcman]

Whats even the point of a huuge 300% bonus if you gotta recycle your balance 40 times before you can withdraw anything? And heres what i dont get... we willingly accept bonuses that basically lock our money behind a bunch of conditions nobody reads.

It will be all of your fault if you are one that does not care to read the terms of the casino before signing up, so also it is necessary for you to read the conditions of the bonuses before you begin chase it.
Transparent casinos will always make their T&Cs public and visible. If you ignores to read it and you get locked or access denied to use the bonuses or withdrawals, then it is you are to be blamed because, of you have and considered you can not afford the requirements, you won't bother chasing after it.

Some dishonest or unorganized casinos may also play games around the bonuses and requirements. Especially when they are loosing on customers withdrawal.

[Queentoshi]

Here is the "2 pills question": would you rather take a 200% bonus with 40x wagering or 5% cashback you can actually withdraw?

I understand where the frustration is coming from because truth is that many casinos offer bonuses but do not actually have the intention for gamblers to easily claim these bonuses away without doing a whole lot for them in return , and it should not be so under a system that works because it just means that they are abusing the bonus system knowing fully well that gamblers will never be able to get this bonus but they're using the gambling bonuses as a way to attract these gamblers to their platform to gamble. There should be penalty for casinos that act just like this.  I will prefer the 5% cashback than a ridiculous percentage in bonus that has a high wagering requirement before I can claim it.