EpochTalk on Talksearch

[PX-Z]

Is this the whole/full code from the development of epochtalk? The layout seems pretty meeehh. Simple margins and padding are not pretty well aligned, signatures are also hidden, quotes are somewhat confusing, especially with multiple quotes in one post.
If this is really the full development made so far for many years, i agree from the post above why it was stopped.

The way the forum works at a basic level already puts aside the need to have fancy UI and stuff. There are enough extensions to satisfy those who don't fancy the current look already.

Having extensions and userscripts to customize the experience is good, but they shouldn't be an excuse to overlook improvements to the core forum software. Not everyone is willing to install third party scripts (coming from me as one of those userscripts contributors) just to get basic features or a better user experience. There's a difference between keeping a forum functional and actually developing it to meet modern expectations.
Even Reddit and other forums even SMF itself has undergone continuous improvements over the years. Well, we can't do anything about it since development has stopped unless theymos plans to continue its development.

[DYING_S0UL]

Is this the whole/full code from the development of epochtalk? The layout seems pretty meeehh. Simple margins and padding are not pretty well aligned, signatures are also hidden, quotes are somewhat confusing, especially with multiple quotes in one post.
If this is really the full development made so far for many years, i agree from the post above why it was stopped.

The way the forum works at a basic level already puts aside the need to have fancy UI and stuff. There are enough extensions to satisfy those who don't fancy the current look already.

Having extensions and userscripts to customize the experience is good, but they shouldn't be an excuse to overlook improvements to the core forum software. Not everyone is willing to install third party scripts (coming from me as one of those userscripts contributors) just to get basic features or a better user experience. There's a difference between keeping a forum functional and actually developing it to meet modern expectations.
Even Reddit and other forums even SMF itself has undergone continuous improvements over the years. Well, we can't do anything about it since development has stopped unless theymos plans to continue its development.

It's probably been discussed countless times or even asked by me (can't remember now), but why are we still on SMF 1.1.19 while others shift towards more latest versions? 

Is it because of the simplicity and light weight build or something? And does the latest version has any feature that can potentially make the whole experience mobile friendly or meet the modern expectations (without relying on any 3rd party userscripts/extensions)? I would appreciate if anyone provided the direct answer/quote or link to the discussions where it took place.

[PX-Z]

It's probably been discussed countless times or even asked by me (can't remember now), but why are we still on SMF 1.1.19 while others shift towards more latest versions? 

Is it because of the simplicity and light weight build or something? And does the latest version has any feature that can potentially make the whole experience mobile friendly or meet the modern expectations (without relying on any 3rd party userscripts/extensions)? I would appreciate if anyone provided the direct answer/quote or link to the discussions where it took place.

Updating the forum to newer version seems impossible after theymos made so many modification on the forum software that is not available for the newer or current versions of smf. Say the ranking system, dt trust system, flag, merit system, evil points, copper memberships, 2fa, even the signature space, etc. this mod/changes are only made for this forum and not for or compatible for newer smf version. Note anyone can make a mod (modification) on smf forums, developers posting on smf forum usually do this like adding karma, etc. and add their instructions like open source devs do.

Adding this features to new smf forum versions means its another development which will takes time and resources.

Also, new smf versions are mobile responsive/friendly. Check it by yourself on mobile device or mobile mode on desktop
https://www.simplemachines.org/
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=595217.0

Actually their mobile version looks is my reference on this mobile responsive userscript.

[Mia Chloe]

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So basically what you are saying is  if thermos has to do any major upgrade he has to make it happen on the general SMF forums first?  Anyways I’m asking this because I was thinking the idea of a new forum software was to migrate from this SMF software.

It should be very possible to build the forum scratch to finish without depending on the SMF forum for the structure and UI.

[PX-Z]

So basically what you are saying is  if thermos has to do any major upgrade he has to make it happen on the general SMF forums first?  Anyways I’m asking this because I was thinking the idea of a new forum software was to migrate from this SMF software.

No need. Web admin only need the new files from the new smf version to upgrade but since the forum has made so many large custom features, practically speaking, its not worth it, sinceany things will break.

It should be very possible to build the forum scratch to finish without depending on the SMF forum for the structure and UI.

Yes, and that's what theymos made on the smf forum software over the decades.

[NotATether]

thermos

I trust Theymos to run things very well on the forum side. I obviously would not want him to change the forum layout on the main site, because I do not like getting used to new interfaces.

Localcoinswap, which I use every week, also updated their design and while the new design looks prettier, it made me panic a little because I couldn't find most of the usual buttons.

So I see what I'm doing here as a sort of experimental project to see how far I can take this new forum software against my dataset.

I'm trying to push the limits of what's possible.

[suchmoon]

Why would you do that to yourself LOL

Although I did have a fleeting thought to see what fable could do with it but what's the point. Fixing epochtalk is like fixing a rusty exhaust.