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Today at 04:55:33 PM
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In my country if any bank go insolvent, the central bank will compensate the bank users by paying them their money if the bank is legally registered with the central bank but the issue is that there will be a delay before paying the customers. That said does not mean I have my money in bank, most of my money are in bitcoin because I want complete control of my crypto.
This practice is supposed to be a global standard for commercial banking if the governments still want citizens to confidently trust their money in banks.

Before a bank goes bankrupt, the central bank authority of country should be aware since they have the database every bank so they should know to protect the citizens funds and return them when there's a shutdown. Telling the bank customers that there's bankrupt people and there's no way to get their money I think is calculated move to steal from them.

These are the problems Satoshi saw and created a solution for it(Bitcoin), but unfortunately, there's are still people across the globe who are yet to understand how it works while there are others that were opportuned to learn about Bitcoin but are still analog to evolve to a digital money that allows them to have total control of their assets.

News like this one drives more people to Bitcoin and one day, I believe Bitcoin will become globally accepted as a mean of of exchange.


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Today at 05:18:06 PM
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If these people have kept some money in Bitcoin and hold in open-source non-custodial wallets, they wouldn't be bothered about the banks collapse, since thier coins would be available to them whenever they want.
Another day to remind everyone to be their own bank, embrace Bitcoin and take full custody of their funds.

You have 100 BTC and all your money in the bank is blocked, is everything okay? Yes, if you can go to the store and buy what you need and pay with Bitcoin - or if you have a way to sell Bitcoin for fiat without that transaction involving your bank. Having Bitcoins unfortunately does not mean being completely safe from what is happening around us.
It won't make us completely safe or unaware of what is happening around us, but it removes the need to constantly worry while everyone else is panicking about what might happen to their finances. The traditional financial system is very broad, so even if one bank goes bankrupt, it doesn't necessarily mean the entire system will collapse, unless the country's economy has completely fallen apart. I'm still hoping that one day, Bitcoin payments will be widely accepted around the world, to the point where I won't have to convert my BTC into local fiat currency if I don't want to.

The world is evolving very quickly. I still remember when digital transfers were not very popular in my country. That changed when we experienced a situation where physical cash became almost impossible to find because the government changed the currency overnight without giving people enough time to adjust. Today, almost everyone, including small business owners and local sellers, understands how to use digital payment systems or has added them to their businesses.

This is exactly how I see Bitcoin becoming in the future. It might take time, but I believe wider adoption will eventually make it a normal part of everyday financial transactions.

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Today at 06:04:40 PM
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This takeover left many people Bankrupt. This isn't even much of a problem since you can use DEX or even CEXs to liquidate as much quantity as you want while the remaining coins stays safely in your cold storage or HW.

And?
You swap your BTC for shitcoin 1 and shitcoin 2 and shitcoin 3 and USD....
And how are you going to use that money if the banks are locked and you can't withdraw from an exchange?
How are the stores going to accept your bitcoins if their bank accounts are locked?

Some of you really live in a fantasy world completely decoupled from reality!

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Today at 06:11:32 PM
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This is one of the reasons why the decentralized form of money is the key to people's liberation, while "not your keys, not your coins" is the non-negotiable rule.
The reason this statement is continually emphasized is to ensure individuals understand that money is just an arbitrary digit in the traditional banking system, where banks could freeze accounts or fail.
Currently in Paraguay, millions are learning this the hard way, and I hope such events will act as a wake-up call for those still relying on traditional banking systems for the majority of their savings.
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Today at 06:45:55 PM
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Paraguay is in chaos right now.

Paraguay's central bank has taken control of Ueno Bank following serious insolvency issues.

Approximately 2.94 million customers, around 63% of Paraguay's adult population, have lost access to their money.
https://x.com/seth_fin/status/2118109960689091021

These people have gone out to the streets demanding their money but it's beyond their reach since the banks they trusted with their money have declared bankruptcy. Banks and centralization has failed us. Self-custody remains the best.

If these people have kept some money in Bitcoin and hold in open-source non-custodial wallets, they wouldn't be bothered about the banks collapse, since thier coins would be available to them whenever they want.

Another day to remind everyone to be their own bank, embrace Bitcoin and take full custody of their funds.
This is very painful to see. Imagine working for most of your adult life and saving to make use of the funds only to find out you can't access it anymore. It's painful and I'm wondering what the government plan to do about this because this is just like working and paying thr government, it's even worse than paying taxes and bills. This very painful.

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Today at 06:50:05 PM
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Well despite strict compliance from government and central banks
People using Banks funds are at the end on the hands of the executives.
Well this is one advantage of bitcoin doesn't mean it doesn't have it's dependence currently on traditional Banks.

How are the stores going to accept your bitcoins if their bank accounts are locked?

Hahahahaha Easy
They will unlock it.

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Today at 06:53:45 PM
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In my country if any bank go insolvent, the central bank will compensate the bank users by paying them their money if the bank is legally registered with the central bank but the issue is that there will be a delay before paying the customers. That said does not mean I have my money in bank, most of my money are in bitcoin because I want complete control of my crypto.
The bank has to be insured by NDIC first, before the bank customers are considered eligible for reimbursement. You also have to understand that there is a coverage limits that can be reimbursed back to each customer. This mean that you cannot get all your money in the bank at once, if your money there is above that coverage limit, set out by NDIC. For commercial banks, the maximum limit coverage is around five million Naira, while the maximum in micro finance banks is two million Naira at present.

It’s not as if the CBN will return all the money you have in the bank in one deposit. It’s not as if the CBN will return you to your former status, as Binance did with their customers with their recent hack. Every other money you have outside the limits, will be returned gradually as the bank assets are being sold, and there is no time duration for that. And you know what that means in Nigeria.

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Today at 08:12:21 PM
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If these people have kept some money in Bitcoin and hold in open-source non-custodial wallets, they wouldn't be bothered about the banks collapse, since thier coins would be available to them whenever they want.
Yeah they would still have their bitcoin regardless.. but this only works if they can find a means to exchange their Bitcoin to get basic stuffs they would be needing. If the fiat system should collapse anytime without any immediate backup, it will be somewhat hard to spend those Bitcoin for a while before the world adapt into a new system.

The good thing is that, you still have your Bitcoin intact.. there could be risk of “holding” in this stage depending on how the possible transition plays out.

That’s why every Bitcoiner should learn to keep their mouths shut about owning some bitcoins

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Today at 08:33:32 PM
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I saw that on social media too and that is the pathetic situation of the centralization but you know what, people never learn, they will simply start using another bank from now on and they think that instead of keeping money in different banks instead of one is the ultimate solution. Smiley

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Today at 08:41:25 PM
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Also need a reminder that if you can't access your coins at any time, if you need someone else to approve your transaction, yeah, that coin isn't really yours.

And a reminder to myself, if I'm not the only one who can access my coins, it's also not really mine and mine only. #Ledgersux

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Today at 09:03:08 PM
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Another day to remind everyone to be their own bank, embrace Bitcoin and take full custody of their funds.
Good advice, but you need to do P2P in an exchange for cash.

If Ueno is one bank among many, there should be other banks operating?

Banks are important, no matter the exposure to Bitcoin, we need banks for everyday use. I don't have a problem with having both money in banks and also Bitcoin in your wallets, not a big deal. Just for today, I've made more than five transactions, fast and smooth, what's so special about using Bitcoin instead?

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Today at 09:19:51 PM
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This is another reminder to me not to let go of my bitcoins and other crypto and to keep them under my own custody. If I'm that bank customer and all of my money was in that bank, I would definitely panic as I lose all my spending power for the time being. There is deposit guarantees for sure, but it would take weeks or months before getting it as the insurance will process millions of people rushing to get their money back.

With the number of affected individuals on Paraguay, I'm sure this is a major national issue. This could bring massive doubts to the government allowing banks to run like that.

I'm sure most of us have money on banks, and to be honest, I have a money in my bank too but it isn't that much, we want the convenience we can get from them at the same time we don't want to be on a situation like this, this is why most of us has bitcoin under our own control which we can use any time that we want without anyone approval.

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Today at 09:39:58 PM
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I saw that on social media too and that is the pathetic situation of the centralization but you know what, people never learn, they will simply start using another bank from now on and they think that instead of keeping money in different banks instead of one is the ultimate solution. Smiley
It is pity that people are changing banks, because nothing much has changed. It is true that having your money in different banks minimizes the chances of losing it should something go wrong with one of the parties involved. However, the old way of thinking remains; that is, large amounts of money are put in the hands of other people whom you do not have any control over. In order to have peace of mind, keep most of your money and have just a little in the bank. It is simple and it needs no talent at all.


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