How do free spins actually work in gambling?

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But I created an account at a casino yesterday, and there were free spins, and each spin was probably 20cents and I won like $53 there but from what I understand from their rules and regulations, I have to deposit $17 and wager 35x or maybe more than this to withdraw $53. I actually have very few  free spin type welcome bonuses so I can only give one example for now. 
Anyway, it would be good if you could tell me about your own free spin bonuses.

Most of the time I see wagers as traps. a 35X wagering requirement is just too outrageous and it's giving the vibe of they not actually wanting you to win at all. A 35X wager basically means you have to bet continuously until your gross bets sum up to 35 times your initial deposit.

For me most times I'll totally ignore the bonus immediately it exceeds 3-5x requirements. And if this requirement is tied to sports betting only for instance, it's a No No for me.

Yes this is what we often encounter with free spin bonuses, then the wagering requirements are not easy, always high 35x of the initial deposit then it can be said This is just a trap in the form of promotions they do.

The casino does not want you to win, the casino does not want this bonus to be abused if the requirements are low.

But the casinos that do OP are quite generous, after creating an account you are given a free spins bonus, most of the other bonuses will be given after your first deposit.

[free-bit.co.in]

But I created an account at a casino yesterday, and there were free spins, and each spin was probably 20cents and I won like $53 there but from what I understand from their rules and regulations, I have to deposit $17 and wager 35x or maybe more than this to withdraw $53. I actually have very few  free spin type welcome bonuses so I can only give one example for now. 

Free spin may look attractive but you are truly lucky if you manage to withdraw any winning earned from them. lol

I also have similar incident like you. I won something from free spin at a new casino. But I found that they had made my deposit and wagering requirement so difficult to meet that was practically impossible for me.

They just set maximum bet requirement for me, lol
So if any bonus is active, I cannot place bet exceeding a certain limit. Apparently, if I do that they have right to void my winning, wtf

[Obim34]

Anyway, it would be good if you could tell me about your own free spin bonuses.

I have my own question, do casinos make free spins bonuses much more difficult to win than when playing with real deposit cash?

I've played with free spins from a first time deposit bonus, and ever since, I haven't won a good amount, if I can recount, say a max amount of $2 after exhausting so many free spins, also when the casino asks to complete certain wagering, it looks tougher when the funds are free.

[Jaycoinz]

But I created an account at a casino yesterday, and there were free spins, and each spin was probably 20cents and I won like $53 there but from what I understand from their rules and regulations, I have to deposit $17 and wager 35x or maybe more than this to withdraw $53. I actually have very few  free spin type welcome bonuses so I can only give one example for now.  

Anyway, it would be good if you could tell me about your own free spin bonuses.

I have used a couple of casinos here and even outside the forum, and I can tell you that most of the free spin bonuses are an endless wager journey. There are basically different types of free spins, and the hardest or most unrealistic ones are the welcome deposit free spins given to all new players l, although it depends on the casino set up because I have played on a casino where they made a certain amount of spin capped at a maximum cash reward of 100$, like no matter how lucky you can get the spins cash won't exceed this amount and also there are also casino they can offer less, it all depends on the spin set up.

The casino can decide to make the spins a no wager requirement that's if they want but you don't see that type of free spins in the casino industry that much only a few casino offer such and in all my time playing, I think I have witnessed just one casino do such where as the others you get to wager like 30-40x of that cash you got from the spin in order to be able to withdraw your cash reward gotten from the spin.

[Findingnemo]

Every kind of bonus comes with a wagering requirement now, and it is because casinos are now giving too many bonuses but in reality they can't just give free money to players so they are giving difficult criteria such as 35x or 40x roll over requirement and by that time 99% of the players will exhaust their balance so casino don't lose money or they gain more from wagering again from the users.

[Yorubek]

that’s exactly why it’s not just about depositing alone, that amounts deposited need to be used to play the casino and if the total won amount is not up to the required weger then you simply will. It be able to withdraw it it’s alway a trap to lure you into depositing money that you end up losing not just about keeping new customers playing the casino only.
If not what explains 35x wagering required better in this context ?

The main reason of the casino is that when you get free spins, you will use the spins, you will make money, and you will be desperate to withdraw the profit, and the casino will use this opportunity, as a result of which the casino will give conditions and the gambler will face a loss of all his money while fulfilling those conditions, so the casino will profit. This is a kind of trap that attracts people. We must not forget that they will never give you free money without their own profit, of course they have a profit here, so I think it is better to stay away from all this to protect yourself from big losses.

[osasshem]

Wagering is a trap used to attract people into the system's loop of keeping those who are not aware trapped for a very long time.
Well, when we talk of welcome bonus or other bonuses that these different casino platforms gives to their users, if you are not a patient person to slowly walk through the most minimum level of taking out your win, you will end up possibly losing everything to them, including your deposited funds. What I do is to use 1 or 2x wager, and gradually walk through till it's completed. This method doesn't guarantee total wins, there will be losses, but won't be too large to affect you, buy how patient can you be to go through it.

[Myleschetty]

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It's looks like a stupid question, but I am a sports bettor, not a pro casino player, so I have very few ideas about these casino games and bonuses. I have a good idea about deposit bonuses, including minimum wagering requirements and how much the maximum bonus can be.

But I created an account at a casino yesterday, and there were free spins, and each spin was probably 20cents and I won like $53 there but from what I understand from their rules and regulations, I have to deposit $17 and wager 35x or maybe more than this to withdraw $53. I actually have very few  free spin type welcome bonuses so I can only give one example for now. 

Anyway, it would be good if you could tell me about your own free spin bonuses.

What you're asking is not a silly question at all. We can’t know everything, and many sports bettors seem surprised by how casino free spins actually function.
The casino free spins rely on the terms of service for the specific offer. While, in some casinos, the spins themselves are indeed free (meaning no impact on your balance), there are specific rules that must be adhered to. In certain casinos, any winnings generated from those free spins are treated as bonus funds instead of real cash, while in others, you might only have to meet specific wagering requirements and the winnings from the free spins become real money, with a maximum cash-out amount that must be respected which is what you're experiencing. So, your $53 is not real money yet. You deposit $17, total playable balance becomes like $70, which you have to wager $53 × 35 = $1,855 (or sometimes the deposit + bonus) before you can withdraw anything.

That's why high wagering free spins are often more marketing than real value. A lot of experienced players only take free spins when the wagering requirements is less than 1–15x and there's no ridiculous max cashout.

Additionally, some free spins can be obtained by purchasing game features.

[uneng]

But I created an account at a casino yesterday, and there were free spins, and each spin was probably 20cents and I won like $53 there but from what I understand from their rules and regulations, I have to deposit $17 and wager 35x or maybe more than this to withdraw $53. I actually have very few  free spin type welcome bonuses so I can only give one example for now. 

I doubt that the same odds applied to paid spins were applied to the free spins you received from them. In real world 20 cents spins don't revert in 53$ easily like that. And since you have to wager 35x a 17$ deposit, it means those 53$ have never been yours...

That concept of promotion or bonus casinos should abandon, because it doesn't make them look honest and fair to the public. Gamblers want to earn from free spins the same prizes they would get from paid spins. It shouldn't have a different algorithm behind.

Moreover, if it's supposed to be a benefit for new gamblers, make it a real benefit, and not a shady way to grab extra money from unaware gamblers.

[Sammysmart001]

the casino will give conditions and the gambler will face a loss of all his money while fulfilling those conditions, so the casino will profit. This is a kind of trap that attracts people. We must not forget that they will never give you free money without their own profit, of course they have a profit here, so I think it is better to stay away from all this to protect yourself from big losses.

35x it not even the worst part. The real trap is actually the small print that people don’t actually read.

Most of the free spin get max bet limit, like $0.50 per spin while bonus are active. If one mistakenly bet higher, they can void your win. Some games don’t count 100% for wagering and they will give you like 7 days to finsh it.

So for me, before I touch any free spins i check out this things first ……. Wagering, max bet and also time limit. I will just skip, if any of them are tight. Any free money one can’t withdraw it a demo.

[Smartprofit]

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It's looks like a stupid question, but I am a sports bettor, not a pro casino player, so I have very few ideas about these casino games and bonuses. I have a good idea about deposit bonuses, including minimum wagering requirements and how much the maximum bonus can be.

But I created an account at a casino yesterday, and there were free spins, and each spin was probably 20cents and I won like $53 there but from what I understand from their rules and regulations, I have to deposit $17 and wager 35x or maybe more than this to withdraw $53. I actually have very few  free spin type welcome bonuses so I can only give one example for now. 

Anyway, it would be good if you could tell me about your own free spin bonuses.

What you're asking is not a silly question at all. We can’t know everything, and many sports bettors seem surprised by how casino free spins actually function.
The casino free spins rely on the terms of service for the specific offer. While, in some casinos, the spins themselves are indeed free (meaning no impact on your balance), there are specific rules that must be adhered to. In certain casinos, any winnings generated from those free spins are treated as bonus funds instead of real cash, while in others, you might only have to meet specific wagering requirements and the winnings from the free spins become real money, with a maximum cash-out amount that must be respected which is what you're experiencing. So, your $53 is not real money yet. You deposit $17, total playable balance becomes like $70, which you have to wager $53 × 35 = $1,855 (or sometimes the deposit + bonus) before you can withdraw anything.

That's why high wagering free spins are often more marketing than real value. A lot of experienced players only take free spins when the wagering requirements is less than 1–15x and there's no ridiculous max cashout.

Additionally, some free spins can be obtained by purchasing game features.

Honestly, what you described isn't a marketing ploy at all! It's purely a game of the casino versus the player. It's worth noting that the casino has a huge mathematical advantage in this game. 🙋

What's the gist of this game? The casino bets virtual money ($53). The player bets real money ($17). The casino sets the rules. Then follows the story of the 12 labors of Hercules (in our case, 35 labors are required based on the wagering requirements). As is well known, the ancient Greek king Eurystheus forced Hercules to perform labors (this was his atonement). There were 12 labors.

Hercules successfully completed all of Eurystheus's tasks, but it's worth noting that there were only 12, not 35. And frankly, the player's chances in this game against the casino are slim.💁

[Hispo]

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Anyway, it would be good if you could tell me about your own free spin bonuses.

Depending whom you ask free spins are garbage or actually a source of entertainment, since they allow one to stretch one's gambling session without having to deposit more money.
To me, they are not worth it, due to the huge number of restrictions and wagering requirements they need in order for one to be able to withdraw anything (in the case one is lucky enough to make some profit from it).

Some you are new to these kinds of promotions and offers, I think you should take a look at the terms of those welcome bonuses and realize if they actually give you a realistic chance to get some of your money back.

[Mrbluntzy]

My encounter with free spin on two different casino came with a 35x and 40x wagering requirements before my winning could be released for withdrawal. This free spin bonus that casinos give usually comes with some difficult requirement, I have not really seen anyone that doesn't have high wagering requirement unless it's really a different kind of bonus with another kind of requirement. I was given an opportunity to claim a 20 free spin just recently but couldn't claim it due to casino error, else I would have also been able to see how the requirement would be.

[EluguHcman]

It's looks like a stupid question, but I am a sports bettor, not a pro casino player, so I have very few ideas about these casino games and bonuses. I have a good idea about deposit bonuses, including minimum wagering requirements and how much the maximum bonus can be.

It is usually that way whereas in the bonuses of the casinos some users are being restricted from withdrawing the bonus funds and are required to pass through it before being enabled to withdraw it.
You are either to pass the KYC or the wagering requirements.

Like I will always say, bonus is a marketing strategy uses to attract users.
In fact the bonus is so tempting that it leads users into addiction due to eagerness to meet the minimum deposits.

[Obari]

It's looks like a stupid question, but I am a sports bettor, not a pro casino player, so I have very few ideas about these casino games and bonuses. I have a good idea about deposit bonuses, including minimum wagering requirements and how much the maximum bonus can be.

But I created an account at a casino yesterday, and there were free spins, and each spin was probably 20cents and I won like $53 there but from what I understand from their rules and regulations, I have to deposit $17 and wager 35x or maybe more than this to withdraw $53. I actually have very few  free spin type welcome bonuses so I can only give one example for now. 

Anyway, it would be good if you could tell me about your own free spin bonuses.

Most of the free spins I have tried always end up requesting for deposits and almost all the free spins alway require that I deposit before I claim my rewards and in most cases, the wager requirements are always very high and that is one of the major reason i don't even give them a try and to me, I don't think these free spins don't or maybe no longer worth it considering the long mental stress that comes with it and at the end of the day, we might end with nothing.
The major thing is that, if you can have the patience to complete the wager requirements, then it wouldn't be a bad thing to give them a try considering how generous the offer can be .

[serjent05]

Anyway, it would be good if you could tell me about your own free spin bonuses.

I have my own question, do casinos make free spins bonuses much more difficult to win than when playing with real deposit cash?

It makes more difficult to win because of the wagering requirement, but the RTP would be the same, meaning it is not different from a normal spin except the spin is free.

I've played with free spins from a first time deposit bonus, and ever since, I haven't won a good amount, if I can recount, say a max amount of $2 after exhausting so many free spins, also when the casino asks to complete certain wagering, it looks tougher when the funds are free.

I have lots of experience with free spins, sometimes the yield is so-so, and sometimes it is great.  After all, the result of a chance-based game is dependent on RNG so it actually depends on how lucky we are.

35x it not even the worst part. The real trap is actually the small print that people don’t actually read.

Most of the free spin get max bet limit, like $0.50 per spin while bonus are active. If one mistakenly bet higher, they can void your win. Some games don’t count 100% for wagering and they will give you like 7 days to finsh it.

It is a free spins, the bet is automatically set to what the casino intended it to be, you cannot change the bet until the free spin is done.

[Miles2006]

The whole free spins and 35x wager is really strange, assuming I am in this situation, the casino expects me to meet up with the 35x wager? Let’s not forget winning is never guarantee, while many will submit to the idea all because of gaining access to withdraw free spins certainly they might lose everything during the process.
Setting 35x wager before withdrawal no longer seems as a free offer, well being able to win free spins comes with requirements, fair enough the casino also wants something in return but 35x wager is actually discouraging.

[Chibit01]

TBH, here, I just went for the free spin and tested them, then I saw the winning amount from the free spin is locked and I need make a certain amount of deposit then wager them 3x and then wager the amount I win from the free spin.
And yes right now after seeing their term and conditions, I said them good bye.

You are not actually alone in this. It's always a rush to claim that free offer given by the casino. I have been in that shoe before where I rush to claim a freebie without thinking about other things that might follow it. I claimed played I forget that casinos can't just be running charity to give out free money like that, its always when one want to request for withdrawal that you will see the casino be like "hey, we are not done here, if you need that money there are still a lot you need to do to clear that up, and if you can't, you leave the bonus to expire.

[Findingnemo]

The whole free spins and 35x wager is really strange, assuming I am in this situation, the casino expects me to meet up with the 35x wager? Let’s not forget winning is never guarantee, while many will submit to the idea all because of gaining access to withdraw free spins certainly they might lose everything during the process.
Setting 35x wager before withdrawal no longer seems as a free offer, well being able to win free spins comes with requirements, fair enough the casino also wants something in return but 35x wager is actually discouraging.

35x is the most common number in most of the casinos, and since it is free money with huge risk the players can always decide to ignore the bonus and continue to gamble with no strings attached but most of them will be eager to complete the requirement and wants to claim that free money.

[yahoo62278]

It's looks like a stupid question, but I am a sports bettor, not a pro casino player, so I have very few ideas about these casino games and bonuses. I have a good idea about deposit bonuses, including minimum wagering requirements and how much the maximum bonus can be.

But I created an account at a casino yesterday, and there were free spins, and each spin was probably 20cents and I won like $53 there but from what I understand from their rules and regulations, I have to deposit $17 and wager 35x or maybe more than this to withdraw $53. I actually have very few  free spin type welcome bonuses so I can only give one example for now. 

Anyway, it would be good if you could tell me about your own free spin bonuses.

You are going to have to be very lucky to be able to cash out that $53. If you have to deposit 17 more to make it $70 total and wager all that 35x, you have to wager $2,450 from the $70. That's just insane and not worth it at all. Feels like they let you win hoping to get you to deposit and rape your deposit from you IMO. I would probably just walk away from that casino.