Have you been there or thought of creating an offline game out of your ideal?

[AVE5]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble. Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.
I've learnt about some local games being developed discovered through similar means. Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

[uneng]

There are lots of alternatives. A quite common one where I live is bingo game, usually played by old ladies or in parties which aim gathering money for a major cause. I also used to play bingo game with family members, betting little amounts of money. Depending the frequency of the game sessions, it can raise undesired attention from authorities, who may claim it's a clandestine activity and then punish the involved individuals accordingly.

[Hispo]

I have always said people will always find ways to gamble,.regardless gambling being legal in their countries or not. Specially if we are talking about people who are severely addicted to gambling.

It reminds me some story which was shared by a guy here on the forum about how people in his town actually manage to gamble without going against the prohibition of their government. People paid a fee in order to enter a fishing competition, whoever managed to fish the biggest fish from a pond, was granted a big cash prize.

It is a form of gambling, which is not directly recognized as such by the government, so it is a loophole.

It is a good example of the phenomenon you talk about here.

[Karl_3000]

Offline games like cards that you are taking about were not invested because of government gambling restrictions, they have been existing before online gambling.

Another thing is that you should not think that everyone that is bypassing government restrictions on gambling are gambling addictions. Majority of them are not addicted to gambling. It would be better you come up with evidence before making such post.

[Inior]

Offline games like cards that you are taking about were not invested because of government gambling restrictions, they have been existing before online gambling.

Another thing is that you should not think that everyone that is bypassing government restrictions on gambling are gambling addictions. Majority of them are not addicted to gambling. It would be better you come up with evidence before making such post.

You have a point though but let’s look at it from this perspective. There is no decent or responsible gambler that would want to break restrictions just to gain access to gambling. Provided an individual has started going out of his way to gamble even when it means secretly doing it then it’s obvious they are doing something wrong, mostly likely irresponsible gambling which is a symptom of addiction.
Speaking of evidence, what would you have him do? You want him to bring up a gamble addict to testify or what?
Well you probably are asking for evidence because you haven’t seen or heard of such experience, from where I grew up, we saw these things on a regular basis even in schools, so I can fully relate with what the OP is saying.

[mirakal]

If that's what we're going to do to avoid the government, isn't it more risky than just gambling online?

Because if we develop a game that is offline as you call it, then we are the creators of the game, and if we get caught, we will be the ones punished since we are operating without a license. Unlike when we are just gambling and accessing online gambling sites despite knowing it's illegal, if there's a penalty, it might not be as harsh since we are just players and not the operators.

[Karl_3000]

You have a point though but let’s look at it from this perspective. There is no decent or responsible gambler that would want to break restrictions just to gain access to gambling. Provided an individual has started going out of his way to gamble even when it means secretly doing it then it’s obvious they are doing something wrong, mostly likely irresponsible gambling which is a symptom of addiction.

If people in a country have known about gambling very well and the government later ban gambling, most gamblers in the country will look for ways to bypass the gambling restriction. I am very sure about what I am taking about. They are doing it not because they are addicted, they are doing it because they want freedom to be gambling. This is also common in crypto.

Speaking of evidence, what would you have him do? You want him to bring up a gamble addict to testify or what? Well you probably are asking for evidence because you haven’t seen or heard of such experience, from where I grew up, we saw these things on a regular basis even in schools, so I can fully relate with what the OP is saying.

Example is in Brazil gambling is banned, he can show a report that says only 18% of the people that were gambling before the restriction that continue to gamble. In each country that percentage is almost similar to the percentage of gamble addicts in the country. But if there is a report that says 70% of the gamblers are still gambling, it easily means that not only addicted gamblers is bypassing the restriction.

[Russlenat]

Offline games like cards that you are taking about were not invested because of government gambling restrictions, they have been existing before online gambling.

Another thing is that you should not think that everyone that is bypassing government restrictions on gambling are gambling addictions. Majority of them are not addicted to gambling. It would be better you come up with evidence before making such post.

If you will just gamble with friends, I think it's safer to play cards. But if you are already running a casino then that is a bigger risk as you could possibly get raided and the operators could go to jail.

So if a person is aware of the risk, he would not dare to operate like that. And in terms of online games I think that's also possible, you don't need to bet on a sportsbook, you just have to create an online group chat with your friends and do the betting there, that might be safer as it's just considered a friendly bet.

[Darker45]

It's actually not so hard. You don't even have to be innovative or imaginative. You don't need to invent anything to quench your gambling thirst. You could just play whatever game you know and place bet on it.

Here in my country, that's what everybody's doing. They play cards, heads or tails, bingo; sports like basketball, swimming, volleyball; races with horses, carabaos, boats, and what have you, and so on and so forth all with bets.

Gambling is so deeply entrenched in our culture here that even wakes have to be extended to the maximum number of days just for gambling to continue legally. Some communities would even claim unclaimed corpse or even buy them for gambling to remain indefinitely.

[Natalim]

For me, it was a different experience, I started with card games and other offline games that I used to play before, and when online gambling was introduced I tried to explore it since I love betting on sports and eventually as crypto casinos grew, it became easier for me to gamble online.

And by the way, I play on offshore gambling sites and have no problem accessing them, and even if the time comes when the government becomes stricter, I think I still won't have much difficulty since there are VPNs that I can use, so I don't think I will go back to playing offline games. I guess.

[freedomgo]

There are lots of alternatives. A quite common one where I live is bingo game, usually played by old ladies or in parties which aim gathering money for a major cause. I also used to play bingo game with family members, betting little amounts of money. Depending the frequency of the game sessions, it can raise undesired attention from authorities, who may claim it's a clandestine activity and then punish the involved individuals accordingly.

Even with how popular online gambling is now, many people still go to casinos to play these types of games for socialization, because the experience feels better,.. I mean some people just prefer that, mostly older people especially those who are already retired, they want to socialize.

For us younger generations, actually I'm not even Gen Z anymore, lol.. we love doing things online. But it's different if our country gets covered by a ban, although I don't think that's really a big threat since there are many countries where gambling is banned and yet people still find ways to gamble, in fact there are even discussions here criticizing the government for banning gambling as they are making stupid decisions since it does not solve the problem and the supposed revenue they could collect just goes to gambling operators outside the country, .. so just relax, there are lots of ways if we are smart enough,

[Julien_Olynpic]

I don't understand why gambling should be banned when it can be regulated. We must understand that gambling, no matter how we feel about it, is one of the achievements of civilization and one of the choices of a free person. The main task of society and the state is simply to ensure that gambling does not become destructive. And it's against human nature to completely ban gambling. People will resist it and come up with some kind of ersatz forms.

[yhiaali3]

Humans are truly unstoppable; they always find ways to get what they want one way or another, whether governments like it or not.

I had previously thought about making my own game using some programming languages and with the help of AI, but it was for fun and not for gambling. So now, especially with the development of AI tools anyone can make their own game.

[TedMosby]

For those who don't know, I created Candle Rain (https://CandleRain.xyz). It's not an offline game, it's a game based on live Bitcoin market data. I've used it a few times for family games, like hosting an internal competition with family members using that game. Players need to pay a small amount of money to be used as a prize pool. It's a fun activity, but I'm not sure if it's gambling or just a competition

BTW, your thread made me want to build one that can be used for offline gambling. I was inspired by a traditional Indonesian dice game called Mongmongan or Kocokan.





Then I vibe coded one, and here is the result:



Link: https://lucky-grove-tau.vercel.app

[Ziskinberg]

I don't understand why gambling should be banned when it can be regulated.

Some countries don't want to regulate gambling and just issue a ban because it's against their beliefs, especially in Muslim countries where gambling is considered a sin. While some countries regulate gambling but eventually find that it's not really helping them as although their revenue has increased, gambling addiction has also risen as a result, so it creates another problem.

So in cases like that, we have to understand that not every leader is good at regulating gambling, which sometimes results in banning it. Especially in poor countries, this is really a problem as many of those who regularly gamble are unemployed, so that alone goes against the basic principle of gambling only what you can afford, how can an unemployed person afford it?

[Patrol69]

There are already many entertainment channels to keep oneself away from gambling, there are many physical games that a person can do. For example, in the afternoon, he can focus on sports, while playing sports will keep his mind good, but he will not be so interested in a particular subject. If there is any free time other than the afternoon, then he can chat with friends instead of sitting alone at home, because of chatting with friends, the attention of gamblers will be on the other side and their mind will be fresh. @@The main thing is that if a person wants to get out of gambling addiction, then there are many channels for this, but the effort is important. If someone does not have the will, then he will not consider any channel right.

[General_Bitcoin]

I don’t think this requires an entirely new game. There are many current games which are easily playable offline, with small stakes between friends. However, offline games tend to be more social.

However, gambling offline does not really change the nature of gambling. If money is being gambled you can still end up losing more than intended. Without the correct platform and defined rules, this can lead to arguments between players. Therefore, it may not always be because of government restrictions, sometimes the reason for gambling offline is because people just prefer to play with their friends.

[Bd officer]

Gambling is banned in my country but is offline gambling safe? Because people in our society are very strict against gambling and the police raid gambling dens. Now people are not seen playing offline gambling much because many young boys are addicted to online gambling.
I have not thought of creating any such offline games, and I don't want to get into trouble by creating them. I have loved watching sports since I was a child. So when I was not introduced to online gambling, I used to bet with a friend of mine. Apart from that, I don't think I have played any other offline gambling.

[Gozie51]

It reminds me some story which was shared by a guy here on the forum about how people in his town actually manage to gamble without going against the prohibition of their government. People paid a fee in order to enter a fishing competition, whoever managed to fish the biggest fish from a pond, was granted a big cash prize.

It is a form of gambling, which is not directly recognized as such by the government, so it is a loophole.

It is a good example of the phenomenon you talk about here.

I know of something like that in the Northern part of Nigeria and maybe I have also seen that thread. But if I have to relate it to the context of the Nigerian type, it is not clearly seen as a gambling adventure or exercise but a fishing festival called Argungu fishing and cultural festival in Kebbi State, Northwest Nigeria. There, the fisher man who catches the biggest fish in that River is recognized. Although, it is not put as gambling but probably looks like something like that too because people on the side could bet on who would catch the biggest fish. However, it is already recognized by government as a cultural festival not an individual based game or innovation.

It's actually not so hard. You don't even have to be innovative or imaginative. You don't need to invent anything to quench your gambling thirst. You could just play whatever game you know and place bet on it.

Here in my country, that's what everybody's doing. They play cards, heads or tails, bingo; sports like basketball, swimming, volleyball; races with horses, carabaos, boats, and what have you, and so on and so forth all with bets.

Just as @Darker45 said  People create different ways to quench their gambling drive by creating another means inside the already known gambling structure or item. Take for instance, billiard games that is played between two people, another people different from the two people playing could place outside bet on those playing with or without their knowledge. They bet outside the original bettors and profit or lose without anybody's knowledge. This gambling can happen with the existing games as mentioned already but the point is that gamblers take advantage of those involved in the gambling in the first instance and that is creativity. In Nigeria, this happens alot especially in board games etc.

[yahoo62278]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble. Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.
I've learnt about some local games being developed discovered through similar means. Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

Back in my younger days I went to jail for doing dumb young kid shit. We used to play spades for soups as a way to pass time and gamble. Not like we could go anywhere lol. Just having some sort of wager on whatever you are watching or playing makes it more entertaining IMO.