Have you been there or thought of creating an offline game out of your ideal?

[Judith87403]

I quite understand what you are saying and that is just the truth, even if government ban gambling, addicted gamblers will always find an alternative to gamble and the offline gambling is very easy. You just made me recall when I was very little, there was a game i and my elder brother bought and we used to play this game everytime and sometimes we even forgot to eat just because we were so addicted to this game, my father became worried and destroyed the game and it was very costly in the market so we couldn't buy another one plus the fact that if we buy another one my father might find out and still destroy it. What we did was to manufacture this game in a local way, we spent days to carve and paint it then after it was ready we started using it to continue playing the game mostly when our father is not around. This is what addiction can do to a person because no matter the restrictions you will still find alternative to satisfy that gambling urge.

[Findingnemo]

My social circle is not that big even if I want to create a game for myself when the country said gambling is prohibited, I have to play all by myself. But I can understand but people will really trust an addict for the game?

Just imagine a bunch of addicts are trying to play a game that is not so regulated or even perfectly formulated, the results will be cricized no matter if the results are fair or biased.

[swogerino]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble. Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.
I've learnt about some local games being developed discovered through similar means. Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

Chess is an international game that can develop intelligence somehow and it is as far as I know not related to gambling at all. The other games like dice have been associated to gambling since early times and the purpose of dice games is exactly that to give gamblers something to gamble with even when gambling like you say is completely prohibited. Gamblers who are addicted will always find a way no matter what restrictions are in place they will bypass them somehow, dice being one of the most easiest way to play within the circle as you say.

[angrybirdy]

There are lots of alternatives. A quite common one where I live is bingo game, usually played by old ladies or in parties which aim gathering money for a major cause. I also used to play bingo game with family members, betting little amounts of money. Depending the frequency of the game sessions, it can raise undesired attention from authorities, who may claim it's a clandestine activity and then punish the involved individuals accordingly.

Is that the traditional bingo game? Like the one where you have cards and some kind of rocks that you use to cover the numbers? If so, then thats indeed a part of offline game alternatives. although there's digital bingo nowadays, traditional bingo somehow teaches you how to collaborate and engage with other players face-to-face.

Just like yours, we're only allowed to play that during family gatherings and occasions. But I know some places where they play bingo every day. It seems like it's part of their daily routines, and of course, it creates a bigger problem, especially if they lose a lot of money rather than win

[Japinat]

I go with billiards, the game is very popular in our community and I do play and place bets with friends. That's my way of gambling offline and it's also my way of exercising since I don't get tired of walking around the table for hours because the game is really fun. Other types of games I play are card games and of course betting on sports using P2P (no sportsbook involved).

[davis196]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble. Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.
I've learnt about some local games being developed discovered through similar means. Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

You are putting "offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players" and actual gambling in the same category. I believe that gambling games cannot be put in the same category as family friendly board games. We live in the AI era and AI is totally capable of giving you ideas about new games. I'm sure that AI will be capable of creating new games for you in the near future. Why visit an online casino, when you could just ask ChatGPT or Claude "Hey, let's play a game of blackjack or poker!" and the AI would create the online poker or blackjack  web interface and deal the cards in no time?

[len01]

Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

In my area, card games like that are still somewhat popular as an alternative for people who don't have money to gamble and just want to play for fun. Here, they call it Domino QQ, but they've modified the rules. This creates a sense of excitement and tension even when playing without money.

But once night comes, they usually switch to betting real money. 

[fredericktaylor]

There are already many entertainment channels to keep oneself away from gambling, there are many physical games that a person can do. For example, in the afternoon, he can focus on sports, while playing sports will keep his mind good, but he will not be so interested in a particular subject. If there is any free time other than the afternoon, then he can chat with friends instead of sitting alone at home, because of chatting with friends, the attention of gamblers will be on the other side and their mind will be fresh. @@The main thing is that if a person wants to get out of gambling addiction, then there are many channels for this, but the effort is important. If someone does not have the will, then he will not consider any channel right.

That's right, but those who are truly addicted to gambling cannot be stopped in any way. Even if the government completely ban gambling, they continue to gamble by creating alternatives to gambling offline. In fact, you can't convince these gamblers that gambling is not for them. They are facing financial losses through gambling their lives are in turmoil the government has banned gambling to save them from gambling addiction. To save them from their addiction, they have to stop gambling completely. They have to stay away from gambling activities for a long time but they cannot be convinced of these things. They will continue to gamble using alternative means and will ruin themselves.

[danherbias07]

If it's just with friends, there are so many ways to gamble.

I remember back when I was a kid, we used to try to guess the last number of the license plate that would pass in front of us. Whoever gets it correctly will take all the money that was in the pot. That's already an invented game of gambling by young people. What more if you have the experience? We have other gambling games, like picking 3 numbers on a peso bill. I learned that in the 9th grade and actually got addicted to it.

But in today's era, one must create something that can be accessed online. So it's actually difficult to make it happen since it will be branded illegal easily.

[Fiatless]

I don't understand why gambling should be banned when it can be regulated. We must understand that gambling, no matter how we feel about it, is one of the achievements of civilization and one of the choices of a free person. The main task of society and the state is simply to ensure that gambling does not become destructive. And it's against human nature to completely ban gambling. People will resist it and come up with some kind of ersatz forms.

We view it differently, and we also understood it differently, but we can’t say the same for every other government out there when they try to regulate it and still consider problem gamblers to be a product of the casino; they will move to banning it. That's what we get when the people on the higher-ups only care about controlling the people more than trying to give them freedom to do what they want, and even when they ban gambling, they can’t completely block it from use since the smart ones will always find their way around.

Religious beliefs are one of the main factors why some governments ban gambling. I am not against an outright ban if everyone is a believer in that particular religion. It is unfair when there are still many people in that country whose religion doesn't forbid gambling who are forced to stop gambling. I find these banning laws unfair when you force people to stop gambling against their will.

In Brazil, the government had to restrict gambling for political gains. Data from polls show that about 75% of Brazilians support a ban on betting. So politicians sometimes use gambling policies to gain support.

[m2017]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble.

Or by a desire for easy money?

Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.

I believe there is a certain "magic" here that comes from interacting with real people during the gameplay.

I've learnt about some local games being developed discovered through similar means.

What kind of games are these? Tell us about them.

Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling.

Even under the threat of lashings (Iran), forced labor (North Korea), or heavy fines and imprisonment (China).

Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle.

Has the regulator not come up with a penalty for creating such games yet (or better yet – for mentioning gambling)?

If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

In this list, dice (dating back 12,000 years) should have been placed first, followed by chess (which emerged in the VI' th century), and only then playing cards (from the IX' th century), making them the "youngest" form of gambling.

In other words, 12,000 years ago, there were "few" potential gambling games that could have emerged, given the available materials and the level of human "creativity" at the time.

I doubt that chess was originally conceived as a gambling game; its focus is more on intellectual challenge, and the pace is quite slow (with long matches). That said, one could, in theory, place a bet on any game.

Playing cards, however, proved ideal for adaptation into gambling, as they allow for the creation of a vast number of games with entirely different rules, all using the very same deck of cards.

[henmark]

Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

I agree that most games were invented by local people and introduced to closed circle (as a community testing) still not all game inventors necessarily to be gamblers, that is the point I am contradicting with you. There would not be any requirement of rocket launching kind of science for innovating these games but must have been developed from what they have seen in real time and have derived from that.

For example, chess is based traditional war methodologies of ancient Tamil rulers. We cannot conclude that chess was invested only for betting purposes. It was being played and then later bettors also might have played by wagering some gold or silver coin. This was how betting might have been developed around games and definitely in no way that gamblers might have developed these games.

[Abdul Sami786]

Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

In my area, card games like that are still somewhat popular as an alternative for people who don't have money to gamble and just want to play for fun. Here, they call it Domino QQ, but they've modified the rules. This creates a sense of excitement and tension even when playing without money.

But once night comes, they usually switch to betting real money. 

We also play a game in which we do not invest money. Apart from this, when we are friends, we play all the games without money because we work with brotherhood. There are many games that are played without money, but when we go to the casino, we have to play by investing money and when we are physically sitting together, we play without investing money for fun. We should play such a game that does not involve money and it gives such a feeling, then this is a very good gamble because we have a lot of fun in such gambling and spend time with each other laughing. If you play by investing money, the chances of you winning are very low, so try to play offline gambling for your entertainment.

[Royal Cap]

No one can ever stop gambling, even offline gambling. Almost everything we understand as lottery here is gambling. For example we have a fishing competition here, the one who can catch a big fish gets about $25,000. And the entry fee is about $500. This is also a type of gambling. Also there are carrom or cards gambling.

And if we talk about online, then both online gambling and crypto are banned in our country. Despite that, we are 47th in the world ranking in terms of gambling and 13th in terms of crypto users. So you understand that even after the ban, there is no benefit. I think the only remedy for this is caution.

[Barikui1]

Gambling is banned in my country but is offline gambling safe? Because people in our society are very strict against gambling and the police raid gambling dens. Now people are not seen playing offline gambling much because many young boys are addicted to online gambling.

If gambling is ban in your country and the people around are also strictly against gambling, then it wouldn't be that easy to gamble offline or do local betting because who will you be gambling with when the locals that should be doing it with you are also against it?
So I don't think that it would be possible in your country. In my country local bet or offline gambling very common because locals are not against it, and as a matter of fact, people are willing to bet on any situation and it potential outcome. Am saying this because I have engaged in some of it myself, but I haven't created any of it, since am not obsessed with gambling, but it's even more fun than casino gambling.

[Russlenat]

So you understand that even after the ban, there is no benefit. I think the only remedy for this is caution.

Stopping gambling? It's impossible, I think the government is aware that they cannot completely stop gambling even if they ban it, but their main purpose is just to minimize exposure as that could help reduce gambling addiction. That's all, because even before online gambling was invented, gambling was already there and it's part of our history and culture, I think the best solution is not really to ban it but to educate people, unless gambling is really against their religious teachings, then there's no argument about that.

[Outhue]

There are lots of alternatives. A quite common one where I live is bingo game, usually played by old ladies or in parties which aim gathering money for a major cause. I also used to play bingo game with family members, betting little amounts of money. Depending the frequency of the game sessions, it can raise undesired attention from authorities, who may claim it's a clandestine activity and then punish the involved individuals accordingly.

I don't advice gambling in a party or big gathering because that's something the authorities can intervene and made some arrests, offline games like this need to be keep on limited company, between few numbers of people and also makes sure it's in a private space or property not the public, you will be shocked by how fast the news can get to the authorities and they will plan a raid.

I have experienced such raid before but this was because people are spraying money in the party which was against the law and someone gave the authorities the information and before we know what's going on we have spies among us, the place was raided and families had to bail out their people, same thing can happen at family gathering if gambling is involved.

[Webetcoins]

Gambling is banned in my country but is offline gambling safe? Because people in our society are very strict against gambling and the police raid gambling dens. Now people are not seen playing offline gambling much because many young boys are addicted to online gambling.

If gambling is ban in your country and the people around are also strictly against gambling, then it wouldn't be that easy to gamble offline or do local betting because who will you be gambling with when the locals that should be doing it with you are also against it?
So I don't think that it would be possible in your country. In my country local bet or offline gambling very common because locals are not against it, and as a matter of fact, people are willing to bet on any situation and it potential outcome. Am saying this because I have engaged in some of it myself, but I haven't created any of it, since am not obsessed with gambling, but it's even more fun than casino gambling.

It is surprising to me that even people are abiding to regulations but it seems like that you people are talking about betting with strangers in places where people do gather but how about betting with your close friends circle within your living room? I guess that type of gambling must be still possible at any part of the world regardless of what your neighbourhood takes stand on regulations of gambling.

I mean that you should focus only on your friends group to find betting partners and should remain careful when your friend of friend referring another friend to join your group of betting. This way we can enjoy safer excitement of betting still this should be within limit like not risking big money and not playing till dawn.

[Futurexxx]

It is surprising to me that even people are abiding to regulations but it seems like that you people are talking about betting with strangers in places where people do gather but how about betting with your close friends circle within your living room? I guess that type of gambling must be still possible at any part of the world regardless of what your neighbourhood takes stand on regulations of gambling.

It can be possible, but have you imagine or think that it might be Muslim neighborhood where even your family members or close friends wouldn't be that interested, since they see it as something that is against their fate?

Things like that can only be possible when you have someone that shared the same sentiment or ideas with you, and in neighborhood like that, it's almost impossible to see someone that is willing to take such risk with you, without any fear of exposing each other.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

When I was young, there was a game we usually play in school, it's called rubber band gambling. We didn't actually bet on the game with real money but you will bet on the winner using some numbers of your rubber band. I believe that the game is played in other localities too and I can guess that people there could be betting with real money on the game. There were other forms of street games played here in my place but now that online gambling is so popular, people hardly bet on such street games because at times it results to fight.