Have you been there or thought of creating an offline game out of your ideal?

[noorman0]

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Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.

Which kind of "offline" do you mean, physical or digital? It’s certainly possible; anything involving random probability can eventually become a subject for betting. I don’t think it’s typically an escape route for addicts (that’s rare), but it could well be the starting point for someone’s gambling journey.

[Captain Corporate]

Hahaha.. Back in the day when I used to be way more of a degen than I am now, I had two coworkers and we'd literally gamble on the temperature degrees while working. We'd bet on whether it was going up or down, or guess the exact temperature at a specific time. There was a big clock outside our building that displayed the temperature, so we relied on that. This was back in the nineties, way before phones could just tell you the weather. It was good fun but even back then I managed to lose some money on it!  

I've had a number of similar bets in the past. I won't actually call these as games but just an ordinary bet placed between a group of friends with no proper admonition. The winner of the bet will simply win all and the loser has to pay. The rules are quite straight forward but that still generates interest. Usually you won't bother checking the temperature on the thermostat but placing bet has caught your interest and now you will pay much closer attention to the temperature.

Sometimes, some events are boring and to spice up things, we can always place bets and start competing in between our group. This can be a perfect example of offline betting but I can still not consider that as a game.

[salad daging]

I don't understand why gambling should be banned when it can be regulated. We must understand that gambling, no matter how we feel about it, is one of the achievements of civilization and one of the choices of a free person. The main task of society and the state is simply to ensure that gambling does not become destructive. And it's against human nature to completely ban gambling. People will resist it and come up with some kind of ersatz forms.

The majority of muslim countries prohibit gambling as well as some other countries, this is not a matter of freedom but a matter of human vices that have been too excessive, you may be able to see the effects of gambling addiction that resulted in a lot of losses, such as the person stole, killed others he himself committed suicide because of the pressure of gambling with a lot of debt.
So as long as you are in a country then it must follow the rules that exist, regardless of whether it is human freedom or not.

[DanWalker]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble. Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.

It's a bit like prohibition era, a ban on alcohol.
Suppose government imposes total ban on alcohol
People then began making moonshine in their own homes, instead of using the legal product.

I think their point of view is, if you and your friends play cards using coin or small amount of money within confines of four wall, it's not going to wreck economy. Govt enforce ban primarily for the sake of this financial protection.

But they failed to realize, you can never stop human psychology by imposing ban.
Instead, it will merely push the system underground. And there will be no regulation and safety guard!

[Rockstarguy]

Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

Apart from being addicted, a gambler will always find an alternative way to gamble or bypass the restrictions of the government. But when a gambler has gotten to the point of creating an offline game just because there is no way to gamble, then this has become a problem and has gone out of line. When a gambler is thinking of creating an offline game, it means the player needs to be checked because they are struggling seriously with addiction.

[KiaKia]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble. Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.
I've learnt about some local games being developed discovered through similar means. Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

It's not even necessary because online gambling is beyond something that the government can stop, maybe restrict or ban in few countries but we all know that some countries are benefitting alot from casinos operation both offline and online in their countries.

You charge a casino with increasing tax they will still pay, that's a whole lot of money going into the government pocket every year, and based on your point it's true, before the internet was here life was fun too, people still finds local games to spend their times on.

I can remember old men playing chess, Ludo and draft games in my home town back then, once they are back from their farming lands they call eachother and have some good time together, so even if the magic happens that gambling gets stopped somehow it won't be the end.

[abaeze]

This isn't a new thing because most gamblers play their favorite games more. People have been attracted to gambling for a long time. Therefore, it wouldn't be right to say that all games originated from gambling. In that case, those who are used to playing offline games prefer to play online games more. Regardless of who gambles online or offline, everyone is familiar with this type of game in every neighborhood and every country.

Therefore, even if a government wants to, it can't completely ban gambling because people's desire for competition, tendency to take risks, and creativity in creating new games have been going on for ages. However, it is important to distinguish between gambling addiction and playing for general entertainment. Because not all players are gamblers and not every new game has a gambling motive.

[Hatchy]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble. Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.
I've learnt about some local games being developed discovered through similar means. Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

One thing I'm sure of is that the government cannot completely stop people from gambling. They can place restrictions on gambling sites and introduce other regulations, but players will always find a way around them if they really want to gamble.
Growing up, online gambling wasn't very popular, and since we didn't have access to local gambling sites, we created different games to keep ourselves busy and have fun. Sometimes, we even placed bets with money, but it often ended in arguments because some people would want their money back even after losing a bet. Despite all that, it was fun playing those games outside the casino environment.

[Smartprofit]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble. Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.
I've learnt about some local games being developed discovered through similar means. Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

In my opinion, if you want to gamble for money with your friends on a summer evening, you don't need to invent anything special. 🙋

First of all, dice. It's a very ancient game, a favorite among the Musketeers of His Majesty King Louis XIII (as a child and teenager, I loved reading Alexandre Dumas's novels). Cardboard boxes containing board games often come with plastic dice, and I have a large supply of these dice at home.

The second popular gambling game is cards. Decks of cards are sold at every kiosk, and I even keep a couple of decks at home. There are a huge number of exciting card games, the most interesting of which is, of course, poker!

Finally, you can play billiards for money (for example, children's billiards, which many people have at home). I remember how much fun my friends and I had playing billiards and drinking beer.🧖

[gracreavix]

You are making it look like because government banned gambling or retricted it too much, people found a way to gamble through cards or other means. Meanwhile cards and other offline gambling games were what even prompt the online games in the first place.

What even prompts people to even gamble is the idea that they can make big funds with little works. And they are not wrong. There are people who have made money like that without the so called stress required from heavy jobs. Gambling was seen by people as a quick money making game and people did it wishing or expecting themselves to win after series of trials and errors.

[POPOLUV]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble. Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.
I've learnt about some local games being developed discovered through similar means. Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

I know that most gamblers are so addicted to gambling in such away that even their family are aware of such addition, but we should not allow this addition in gambling to be what we should always discuss about, because being addicted in gambling is not only what we see in gambling, at least we should discuss the benefits that gamblers has also benefited from gambling, because it will be very hard for a working class to be addicted to gambling, so if those countries that gambling has banned by their government, let government provide means of engaging the youths on jobs, and with jobs opportunities, I'm certain that this addition of a thing will surely reduce because once you are always busy working, i don't think there will be chance of gambling always.

[SFR10]

Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle.

I wouldn't consider a creative person who's capable of creating games for the sole purpose of occasionally having fun with a group of friends a gambling addict ^{[regardless of the laws, that's just another form of entertainment and the same thing applies to a lot of other fields]}.

[qurbanshah02]

Every game that is fun can be played offline, if you put money in this game, it becomes an online game. I often tell that I have a casino in which money cannot be invested, so I and my family play a lot of offline gambling. It is quite interesting because there is no pressure and tension in it, so playing offline for fun is more beneficial. We give it a lot of opportunity in our festivals because it is a very ideal game in our country which is played just for fun. But those who come to earn profit, so they go to real gambling so that they can earn some money, so now there is a lot of rush in real gambling. But even today we carry on with our traditions and play this game to sit together for some time. We have a game in which money cannot be invested because there is no such way.

[tbterryboy]

These inventors are gamblers themselves and they have already spent a good amount of time in understanding the industry. Even though inventing an offline game might sound easy at start but it will take some efforts especially with the rules. We don't want to play any game with unfair rules so there should be some rules in place.

Those rules should not really take the fun out of that game though because there will be no point in playing such game. For me, I find comfort in online games. I am not a big fan of physical interaction so I would always chose these online games because I can play according to my convenience.

[Emitdama]

This isn't a new thing because most gamblers play their favorite games more. People have been attracted to gambling for a long time. Therefore, it wouldn't be right to say that all games originated from gambling.

It makes sense. And why play non-favoured games anyway? That was a suicide, unless if you are finding fun in being random and only does it for the purpose of trying your luck. Yes mate, gambling is discovered in a very long time now. It had evolved a lot. We now have more games and the fun have also elevated but this is why games can actually be based on gambling too. Which is true for the most, since some or most of them do also have a gambling element.

In that case, those who are used to playing offline games prefer to play online games more.

Huh? If they are used to playing offline, then this is the same type they will also play the most.

even if a government wants to, it can't completely ban gambling because people's desire for competition, tendency to take risks, and creativity in creating new games have been going on for ages. However, it is important to distinguish between gambling addiction and playing for general entertainment. Because not all players are gamblers and not every new game has a gambling motive.

Government knows that fact, and that is why they also never stops. Even normal games can still be addicted if they are so fun. That is why there is also action of government against them.

[Ruttoshi]

Gambling started offline and the different games used in gambling was based on man's thinking. I started gambling not from a casino but from my environment through cards or playing 5 penalties each to score a particular number and if you cannot, you lose your bet.

There are various ways to gamble offline but using a casino is the best because you have the opportunity to win a life changing amount.

[Asuspawer09]

For sure, banning gambling is not really the perfect way to do it and definitely not going to stop all of it, but this different games idea was not something made because there are a lot of gambling addicts usually this games have different kinds of origins or something, usually coming from different countries and originating there.

I mean, I personally see a lot of gamblers getting creative in a way, just to find a way to gamble or to lose that addictive feeling, usually doing other things, including this kind of card games, it doesn't necessarily need to involve money most of the time. We play a lot of card games usually here in my country in every different occasions, might involved money but usually very low were you could still enjoy even if you win or lose.

[o48o]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble. Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.
I've learnt about some local games being developed discovered through similar means. Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

Yeah, i have been thinking about that, but i might be too ambitious because i would want to invent whole new game with whole new gaming theory behind it.
Most of the "innovative" games i see are basically based on game concepts that already exist. Once in a while there comes a good one, but there are so many of them that i can't keep up or bother to learn the rules. That's why i would like to invent something for someone like me.

Problems is that games like that, even when they are simple, require ton of testing and math to continue being interesting and hooking. And that would require test groups that are able to work for you for a long time, unless i want to use my family and make them play it in weekends .

But don't get me wrong, games that are poorly designed can be successful, i just don't think they are worth doing. Like monopoly. It's freaking horrible imho.

[nara1892]

Some people had been so addicted to gambling that even when the gambling is being legally prohibited, they'd always find other means creating alternative to gamble. Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.
I've learnt about some local games being developed discovered through similar means. Some guys are so addicted in gambling that government can't entirely stop gambling. Creative ideal gamblers will always find means to create and introduce one to his close friends and relatives which game is only played and understood within the cycle. If so much interesting like that others can still adopt it and this is just how some offline games like the cards, dice and the chess, etc are invented.

Some of the games you mentioned, such as dice and especially card games, had already been around long before modern casino games like slots. In the area where I live, offline gambling like that has been played for a long time especially card games. We call them traditional games. Before the digital world became more advanced and before the emergence of online casinos, many people were already gambling and addicted to those games.

Now everything has become easier with the advent of online casinos, and from what I’ve observed, traditional gambling is becoming less common as people have shifted to online casinos. However, you’re right that once someone is addicted, they’ll always find a way to gamble. If, for example, online casinos were completely eliminated, they might return to traditional gambling.

[Swordsoffreedom]

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Especially offline gaming such that'll be logically competitive for players.

Which kind of "offline" do you mean, physical or digital? It’s certainly possible; anything involving random probability can eventually become a subject for betting. I don’t think it’s typically an escape route for addicts (that’s rare), but it could well be the starting point for someone’s gambling journey.

If a group of friends adds small stake later on their gameplay then yes its nature changes.
But spending money on game does not mean that those group are addicted to gambling.
Staking money and having gambling addiction are not same thing.

In my view, bettor's behavior is more important than format of game they are playing.
If you play for occasional fun within your set budget. then that is form of recreational activity.
But problems arise if any gambler repeatedly increases his stake to recover his loss, borrows money or is unable to stop playing.