Do bookmakers buy information from sports leagues?

[Curious T]

It's just another excuse sports bettors make for when they lose. Instead of admitting that they got it wrong, they look for who to blame. They are the group with the ones that believe the games are fixed. What information are the clubs going to give to them bet companies that are not public? Which companies will they pass the information to, and how will it get passed to the rest of the casinos in the world? 

Sports are a very difficult thing to predict. Especially sports like football, basketball and the rest. They don't always go as expected. In fact, they hardly go as expected, and the ones that go as expected don't have big odds. This makes it pretty difficult to win.

[letteredhub]

At first which type of information are they even arguing about because every information about a game is out there on the public consumption or is there any other information separate from the general sports activities and information we don't know that is special and specifically only for some people? Maybe if they had specified the type of information they in their argument then we could have known but they didn't maybe they could step up their research properly before betting on a game if that is their bone of contention.

Information rules the world and men with quick  access to very important information in any field they always get ahead before any others.  There's no industry that certain information and not withheld not to be broken quickly to public consumption without certain calibre of person within that echelon not first being aware. Perhaps, information about the players state just before a match, what happened in the dressing room, and similar informations.

[DiMarxist]

he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

So if sportbooks are paying so called leagues to get early information about teams, how does it translate to you not been favorable while gambling. Except this person is arguring about sportbooks paying these leagues so that they can , tell the the outcome of the planned result which the clubs will arrange and play among themselves. Which to me is match fixing which is a serious offence , if that is the what is withheld from the public.

If not I don't see the wisdom behind the Argument, wining in gambling has always been a game of luck, and has nothing to do with information that is bought somewhere. The day you win the Casinos are not buying information from leagues, while the day you lose you become angry and comes up with all manner of allegations which doesn't sound right to me.

[Oasisman]

The reason why I brought up this, is because of an argument between some bettors today. According to the claim of one of them, betting has not been very favorable to him for some weeks and he is blaming it on the sportbook and football Leagues, he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

What information are the bookies willing to pay? I mean, every information before a match started has always been announced, like if there are changes to the rotation, injuries, and things that could make an impact to the game. These are all broadcasted pre-game.
Sports betting is not a prediction market where one could pay an insider to get early access to certain information. Early information in sports doesn't mean anything or an advantage, bettors still need to analyze the match up and review the odds to find good value.

[Ojima-ojo]

he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

So if sportbooks are paying so called leagues to get early information about teams, how does it translate to you not been favorable while gambling. Except this person is arguring about sportbooks paying these leagues so that they can , tell the the outcome of the planned result which the clubs will arrange and play among themselves. Which to me is match fixing which is a serious offence , if that is the what is withheld from the public.

If not I don't see the wisdom behind the Argument, wining in gambling has always been a game of luck, and has nothing to do with information that is bought somewhere. The day you win the Casinos are not buying information from leagues, while the day you lose you become angry and comes up with all manner of allegations which doesn't sound right to me.

DiMarxist it possible to effect bettors bet outcome if the leagues are fixed and casinos being the one paying for that match fixing, this have being happening in so cases and that is why some match get call out in the last FIFA world cup, so you don't know the extent big players in the game can go to get things done in way that keeps them at profits.


In some ways, is possible to get the outcome of the match even before the match begins, and at this po,int the match officials will all be in collaboration with the plot to rig the game in favour of the selected team.

[348Judah]

he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

I disagree on this, it is not even possible on major leagues because we see how everything transpired on the pitch and no form of manipulation before, during, or after their match, another reason why you will see that many gamblers only concentrate playing major leads is this, because they don't trust the process at some point when by some uncommon leagues may be bias at their judgment or procedures and complicate things for them, all this being said, gambling must be played as according to our abilities and affordability.

[Ummeettaa]

The reason why I brought up this, is because of an argument between some bettors today. According to the claim of one of them, betting has not been very favorable to him for some weeks and he is blaming it on the sportbook and football Leagues, he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

I have been hearing of fix games where some matches are being paid to get a certain results from them, am not sure if it's true or have any evidence to backup such claim.

It might be possible to pay leagues like some of the 3rd or 4th division of some countries, but I don't think it will be possible for a top league to exhibit such act of being paid to manipulate games results.

Most of the people we see claiming that they have a fixed games and opening a channel or group selling codes to games are normal individuals, because most games are not even 70% guaranteed, some are just individual like us that do check and observe many teams and leagues everyday to the extent that they can predict what some teams and leagues are capable of doing in a match.

I have a friend that joined a group where codes are being sold, and ever since he shared the code with me, I have never win a game before and that made me stop.playing and believing in such groups.

[Mrbluntzy]

At first which type of information are they even arguing about because every information about a game is out there on the public consumption or is there any other information separate from the general sports activities and information we don't know that is special and specifically only for some people? Maybe if they had specified the type of information they in their argument then we could have known but they didn't maybe they could step up their research properly before betting on a game if that is their bone of contention.

Since I was not part of the discussion but was just sitting and listening to them, I didn't ask the kind of information he was really referring to but from what he was saying, I can only guess that he meant injuries or maybe the teams already plans to lose a match and so they will inform the bookies. All of those things he said I don't agree with and the response from experience players here already shows that there's nothing like that. Some players just look for whom to pour out their frustrations on when they have lose their hard earned money to gambling and I think that's just the situation of this person.

[Floczy]

A loosing streak could make one think unnecessarily deep.

How did he get this information, or is it just something he thought of as a result of psychological issues as a result of his losses, it's very possible,

As a matter of fact if someone is constantly loosing in gambling no one will be surprised, but if someone is constantly winning people will be surprised and wonder, so if he is on a loosing streak, he should know it's normal in gambling, if your friend wants to do better he should watch football more often and learn.

[ZeroVinsonN]

This is a typical behaviour from someone who has been losing for a very long time but still won't stop gambling, they begin to blame everyone but themselves for their losses just so they still have something to motivate them to keep gambling.

If you even think about it you won't be able to think of any good information that the leagues are supposedly selling to the bookmakers that's giving them an edge over sports bettors, if the leagues had any such information then they would already know who was going to come out ontop from the very first match but sports doesn't work that way.

Maybe you friend should consider changing his gambling strategy rather than repeatedly doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results, if he changes then maybe he will praise the bookmakers the next he talks to you about his bets.

[IceLincoln]

The reason why I brought up this, is because of an argument between some bettors today. According to the claim of one of them, betting has not been very favorable to him for some weeks and he is blaming it on the sportbook and football Leagues, he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

What cross my mind in that argument is that, most bettors do not bother to do proper analysis before bettors on a game, there are a lot of players who are just very desperate to make money and they don't bother to research for informations before betting on a team. I argued that the bookies get the same information that bettors get because all necessary information are published in different news site. But I believe some of us here are more experienced in sports, do you think bookies buy information from leagues?

What kind of early information do you think they buy or did your friend not specify them. It’s crazy what we think some times when we’re down. There’s a level of match fixing or sure odds scenario that can take place in lower tier divisions but not in modern mainstream leagues. Even if a player tells his friend to bet on his team winning can be seen as a match fixing.
Bookies get better win rates cause they do better analysis, sometimes we bet on emotions and expect to win, if you bet on your team winning just because you want them to without looking at all the factors involved, you’re surely going to lose that bet.

[Donk1]

Well casinos have their ways of doing things. It's easy to say whether you win or lose a bet, the casino will still make profits off your bet. Basically the outcome of a game can never be certain between both teams on who will actually win. And perhaps even if they do get news first with the way information travels quickly, it would be impossible to keep it a secret for long. Best to say the moment something happens, like a player getting substituted it has already started trending because even the media wants to make money. So that's the thing to me, I believe they have their way of improvising the odds the moment news breaks out and when it comes down to it the casino will always have an edge. That's all....

[FirmWars]

At first which type of information are they even arguing about because every information about a game is out there on the public

I was also wondering what kind of information the person is talking about, I don't agree with such claim, except it's a case of match fixing where the casino have planned with the team, but if it's not, then there's no secret information that is being sold. Sportbooks have easy predictable market such as Home/Away/Underdog. The outcome of any bet placed on these market depends on the luck of the player and the performance of the team, so the bookies advantage is just odds and also when a bettor makes a wrong prediction and lose the bet.

Except a bookmaker has inside information about a match fixing I don't think that they will have any sure advantages over us bettors, no matter the bookmakers and bettors skills at analyzing games we all need some levels of luck to do the right predictions. Although I know that bookmakers have greater analytical skills than most bettors who only analyze on the surface also they fix the odds, these are basically the edge that they have above us. Although I've heard some bettors allege that bookmakers buys information from clubs and their leagues but since I don't have extensive knowledge about how they do it I'll rather not delve into what I'm not sure.

That's true, players need some level of luck to make right prediction, while bookies may greater analytical skill in prediction, they can be wrong too, that's why players sometimes win on games that the bookies never thought that the team can win. Predicting the outcome of a game is just a probability, so we are working on probability and not a guarantee out the outcome of every game. The only time a bookie can have upper hand is if the fixed the game or when players also fail to use current data to do their analysis.

[Miles2006]

Thinking bookies buy information from sports league is an odd thing to say, maybe few leagues are guilty but certainly not so common to an extend, well under probability knowing for a fact every information concerning sports is public.
When predictions don’t go in our favour most people blame the bookies, not new and for a fact this feeling is normal but, accusing the league is what I find strange. If this claim is actually true, no doubt everyone will stop playing bets obviously who wants to lose knowing they don’t stand a chance winning? The reason why gamblers think this way definitely the odds presented are tricky.

[tbterryboy]

The reason why I brought up this, is because of an argument between some bettors today. According to the claim of one of them, betting has not been very favorable to him for some weeks and he is blaming it on the sportbook and football Leagues, he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

What cross my mind in that argument is that, most bettors do not bother to do proper analysis before bettors on a game, there are a lot of players who are just very desperate to make money and they don't bother to research for informations before betting on a team. I argued that the bookies get the same information that bettors get because all necessary information are published in different news site. But I believe some of us here are more experienced in sports, do you think bookies buy information from leagues?

That argument makes zero sense to me. What does any information a bookie gets from teams have anything to do with individual bets that bettors make? As a bettor, it's your responsibility to make sure that you understand what you are doing, and for that, you have to do your own research and analysis and then make your bets. The information a bookie gets shouldn't have any effect on individual bets that people make because they are only going to use that information to create the odds, and then you can choose which side you want to choose and then nothing would change.

A sports bettor who doesn't know how to do analysis themselves and if they are making wild guesses themselves, they might think such things can create problems for them or other bettors, but it doesn't. There is no secret information that the bookies get that we can't get, it's all about the changes in teams, who is playing and who isn't, whether there are injuries or such things, and other such information, and as mentioned by others, these information are revealed before the games in general, so it isn't that the bookies buy these information from teams and others don't get it.

[Abu-Naim]

What cross my mind in that argument is that, most bettors do not bother to do proper analysis before bettors on a game, there are a lot of players who are just very desperate to make money and they don't bother to research for informations before betting on a team. I argued that the bookies get the same information that bettors get because all necessary information are published in different news site. But I believe some of us here are more experienced in sports, do you think bookies buy information from leagues?

All relevant information are online, history, head to head, recent form, current team and players state and injuries and so on. These are the information needed to beg a game, and bookmakers use all these to set odds on games based on probability.

However, the only thing I heated that some bookmakers do is to pay for teams to lose or win especially if it is an offset; but that is not genuine information.
People that are paying to get direct live games thinking it is fixed are surprising because some of them are claiming to get it right, while some always complain that they got scammed. I personally don’t believe it, but I see people always believing it it.

[Bright0515]

A lot of people suspect this but one thing that a lot of people fail to understand is that a use due through the mis weaknes. Sports Don't really plus size very different amount others that are taking. Sports Leagues can also be used without assuming that bookmakers buy informations from sport leagues. This is something definitely going to through pains, bookies and other see her.

[Africolo]

The reason why I brought up this, is because of an argument between some bettors today. According to the claim of one of them, betting has not been very favorable to him for some weeks and he is blaming it on the sportbook and football Leagues, he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

What cross my mind in that argument is that, most bettors do not bother to do proper analysis before bettors on a game, there are a lot of players who are just very desperate to make money and they don't bother to research for informations before betting on a team. I argued that the bookies get the same information that bettors get because all necessary information are published in different news site. But I believe some of us here are more experienced in sports, do you think bookies buy information from leagues?

I think the bookmarkers do a very thorough analysis into games and that's why they have good odds Everytime and we shouldn't forget that this gambling of a thing favours the bookmarkers than us, we only win when we are very lucky because there's no winning strategy anywhere when it comes to gambling and people should stop chasing looses as it's one of the areas that opens the gambler to more looses.

I agree with you that most bettors don't do a proper research and analysis because selecting their games while betting, they are just too carried away by the odds or bonuses attached to a particular game and that's why they keep loosing, we all know that most times the bookmarkers lias with teams to fix matches but not on a regular basis which makes it difficult for gamblers to win, in gambling anything can happen and if they can lias to fix matches then they can equally buy information from leagues.

[Y3shot]

The reason why I brought up this, is because of an argument between some bettors today. According to the claim of one of them, betting has not been very favorable to him for some weeks and he is blaming it on the sportbook and football Leagues, he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

Even if they are being paid to get information, there still can't be accurate information because football games are unpredictable. I wonder what proof one has to think this is being done. Some people, when they lose in their game, just look for someone to blame. Many gamblers just need to learn to accept their loss and to move on. One thing gamblers need to learn is the outcome of gambling, and to accept whatever the result is.

[yixichloro2xx]

Thinking bookies buy information from sports league is an odd thing to say, maybe few leagues are guilty but certainly not so common to an extend, well under probability knowing for a fact every information concerning sports is public.
When predictions don’t go in our favour most people blame the bookies, not new and for a fact this feeling is normal but, accusing the league is what I find strange. If this claim is actually true, no doubt everyone will stop playing bets obviously who wants to lose knowing they don’t stand a chance winning? The reason why gamblers think this way definitely the odds presented are tricky.

This can't happen in the top leagues like premier league, laliga, serie A because they will be easily caught for data or information breaching. The punishment they would face if caught could be greater than Manchester city FFP predicted punishments. First of all they will pay a huge fine and probably relegation or ban from making transfer. The top team have already built their reputation and will not ruin it because of small money's bookies offers.  I do agree with you that this kind of thing can happen in some other leagues especially the lower ones that doesn't get much international attention. Why would they even pay for sensitive information where they can getpublic statistics, player records, and match data, all online which help them calculate odds.