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Today at 04:44:45 AM
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Despite the extreme dangers of JavaScript and utter foolishness of enabling it, I’m considering that I may enable it for just long enough to login to Github and give a thumbs-down reaction.  This is a travesty:

ecdsa commented March 15, 2026, 09:38:44 AM [Member]

Sorry but I do not want new plugins to be merged, unless they have shown to be extremely popular. Please distribute your plugin as an external plugin, and submit it to https://plugins.electrum.org

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🔴 ecdsa closed this March 15, 2026, 09:38:44 AM

MorenoProg commented April 28, 2026, 09:04:56 PM [Author]

@ecdsa Thanks for the response.

Quite a bit of time went into this PR, not just from my side, but also from contributors [...]

More generally, this doesn’t seem like just a question of waiting for community demand. Electrum is in a position to shape that demand. If silent payments are something you want to see adopted, supporting them here would directly contribute to that.

I’m not an Electrum user.  I used to be, long ago—but I’m not anymore, and I have no intent to use Electrum in the foreseeable future.

Nonetheless, the refusal to merge #9900 affects me, and it affects everyone:

  • The third merit I ever received was from ChipMixer’s CM for one of my Jr. Member posts against Bitcoin address reuse.  I’m still encountering this problem in the wild.  What can I do?  Send another link to the Bitcoin Wiki article against Bitcoin address reuse, which people rarely bother to read the first time they see it?  Shake my fist at the sky?  Absolutely refuse to deal with anything except ZEC and XMR, and maybe LTC MWEB, on grounds that in Current Year, any coin that doesn’t fully support at least a modicum of privacy with multi-use addresses is a shitcoin lacking basic functionality?  Decline to transact?  There needs to be a permanent solution for people to receive on-chain BTC with a multi-use address, without the horrific privacy damage of address reuse!

    I currently have no means to receive SP, nor even to send it myself.  But that’s a problem within my own power to solve.  If I do so, I will then face another problem:  Electrum has a huge proportion of users.  Its lack of support for sending SP may be a roadblock that I cannot clear independently of anyone else.
      
  • I’m preparing to wage all-out war on Bitcoin address reuse.  Whatever it takes!  I’ll campaign to educate newbies so they don’t get bad habits.  And in the holy name of Eris, I’m gonna h4x0r the satoshin@gmx.com email account, and send theymos a message saying, “theymos, upgrade your forum signature to a BIP 352 Silent Payments address before I hitman you.”

    But what if theymos replies, “lolwut, Electrum users won’t be able to send me sats unless they install a plugin.  P.S., you’re BANED!!”

When such a popular wallet actively refuses to support sending SP out-of-the-box, it holds back the whole Bitcoin ecosystem from finally mass-deploying a minimal mitigation a major privacy disaster.

Accordingly, if I encounter any Electrum users on this issue, with apologies to NotATether, my advice will not be, “Install NotATether’s Silent Payments sending plugin.”  Instead, it will be, “Switch to Sparrow (onion).”  If sending to a Bitcoin address requires the friction of installing software, why not go all the way?

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Today at 08:56:25 AM
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I mean, you are right. It feels kind of wrong to have a Silent Payments sending plugin without any way to receive them.

I do have a completely different software for scanning for SP addresses, it's not published yet but that is going to have to run as a completely separate daemon instead of attached to Electrum.

Built-in solutions are much better than fragmented add-ons.

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