Misleading way of promoting affiliates.

[Russlenat]

I just remembered, I saw a video on Facebook like months ago about an influencer who was promoting gambling.

So this was his pitch, he said that casinos are manipulating games and mostly letting new sign ups win so they will be encouraged to play more. So I realized, there's something wrong with this guy, it's like he's making casinos look bad so people will stop playing there and create a new account under his referral.

For those who are easily fooled, this might be effective, but it's very bad marketing.
Just sharing. What do you guys think?

[Die_empty]

Just sharing. What do you guys think?

This is not the first time I've heard that new accounts enjoy some sort of privileges from casinos. There are also some threads on the forum that have discussed these observations. But none of them have shown evidence that this is true.

Did he show any proof to back up his claim? Or is it just the same unverified observations?  Newbies would fall for this type of manipulative promotion. Instead of working hard to build loyal followers, the influencer is selling false claims. If he continues this way, he will soon go out of business because lies don't last long. 

[Wiwo]

This type of stereotype has always been there, but coming from an influencer with large followers and a referral code means he is systematically trying to promote his referral code to generate earnings from their wagering.

Have seen such unethical ways of promotion on social media; some even go into promoting exchange accounts, telling their followers that X exchange is giving welcome bonuses; sometimes the prize is above $100, promotional gifting, but the main aim of the influencers is to get people to register new accounts under their referral.

[Russlenat]

Just sharing. What do you guys think?

This is not the first time I've heard that new accounts enjoy some sort of privileges from casinos. There are also some threads on the forum that have discussed these observations. But none of them have shown evidence that this is true.

I miss those, but this one I just want to share so people will be aware of this kind of misleading promotion.

Did he show any proof to back up his claim? Or is it just the same unverified observations?  Newbies would fall for this type of manipulative promotion. Instead of working hard to build loyal followers, the influencer is selling false claims. If he continues this way, he will soon go out of business because lies don't last long. 

I think he showed the balance of his account, but you know with a casino partnership they can easily put money in that account, he will just play like he's using play money although the system will work as normal and eventually he will also win. So it's a way to entice people but in a wrong way, and I can't believe promoters have that kind of strategy.

[adultcrypto]

So this was his pitch, he said that casinos are manipulating games and mostly letting new sign ups win so they will be encouraged to play more. So I realized, there's something wrong with this guy, it's like he's making casinos look bad so people will stop playing there and create a new account under his referral.

This type of advertising is counterproductive because if he discredit every other casinos save the one he is promoting, reasonable people will not trust him. In addition, if he mistakenly mention any casino in his defamation,  he may be sued so he will be careful not to do that unless he feels he can prove that. This pattern of desperation for referrals is dangerous and is pushing people to adppt crazy approach just like we are seeing among content creators looking for monetization money.

[Oasisman]

anyone who's in the online gambling casino for quite some time, knows it isn't true. So, he's definitely targeting new gamblers.
I'm really interested on how the online casino would react to his promotional approach. If I'm the casino owner, I'd surely tell him his pitch was bad and that he should change the way he delivers it, otherwise I will not going to pay him a dime.
I think it was the greed that kicks in. Influencers sometimes won't get satisfied with how much the casino are paying them with the promotional clip alone, so they want to utilize and maximize their opportunity to earn from referrals as well.
I've seen enough how aggressive some influencers are enticing their followers to register under his referral. Some are even offering cash and select cashbacks of their own when their referred player lost for the first time.

[eisen33]

I just remembered, I saw a video on Facebook like months ago about an influencer who was promoting gambling.

So this was his pitch, he said that casinos are manipulating games and mostly letting new sign ups win so they will be encouraged to play more. So I realized, there's something wrong with this guy, it's like he's making casinos look bad so people will stop playing there and create a new account under his referral.

For those who are easily fooled, this might be effective, but it's very bad marketing.
Just sharing. What do you guys think?

It depends on what was being discussed, if he mentioned that he was talking about demo mode, then it’s quite likely that you end up winning more often than you would when playing for real money, at least, that’s been my experience with slots at certain casinos. But if the conversation is about betting, then it’s clear that the casino has no way to influence whether you win or lose, everything depends on the bets you choose to place.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Actually, while it sounds like a made up bs story from the influencer, in my experience though he does have a point, haha. For me, when I try a new place, I often win at the very beginning. Very rare that I start with more losses than wins because if that would happen I would quickly make up my mind to not waste my time there any longer. Winning though of course makes you feel you might actually have a chance to beat the house/site, even though of course we all know this is very unlikely to happen. But feeling you have a chance is still better than starting off with frustrating results.
Yeah so I do feel like there is something going on behind the scenes favoring new accounts over new ones. Even though this should not be possible if an actual fair game experience is provided, with all the "provably fair" nonsense and what not out there.

[Russlenat]

Actually, while it sounds like a made up bs story from the influencer, in my experience though he does have a point, haha. For me, when I try a new place, I often win at the very beginning. Very rare that I start with more losses than wins because if that would happen I would quickly make up my mind to not waste my time there any longer. Winning though of course makes you feel you might actually have a chance to beat the house/site, even though of course we all know this is very unlikely to happen. But feeling you have a chance is still better than starting off with frustrating results.
Yeah so I do feel like there is something going on behind the scenes favoring new accounts over new ones. Even though this should not be possible if an actual fair game experience is provided, with all the "provably fair" nonsense and what not out there.

So you can actually become a promoter because you have experience. haha.

For me, probably half of the time I win and lose, maybe I'm just not lucky in gambling, that's why I don't buy this kind of story. Maybe if I was new to gambling I would believe it and it's just sad since I know people who believe in this story, I mean real people who are superstitious but after they tried it there's no guarantee.

So I guess those who are struggling with money are the ones who can easily be deceived.
Hopefully people will not fall for this.

[danherbias07]

I think that was witty.

I mean, if a gambler is not winning for a long time on the same casino site that he was promoting, it could actually work. I think the only problem is if the online casino is letting an account be created again on the same IP. It could mean bad things for the gambler, and the affiliate won't even work if there's no one gambling any money on that new account.

Still, I don't agree with how he promotes the casino just for affiliates. Plus, it's not like there's a lot of money on those referrals unless you get lucky and have a whale sign up.

[oll]

I just remembered, I saw a video on Facebook like months ago about an influencer who was promoting gambling.

So this was his pitch, he said that casinos are manipulating games and mostly letting new sign ups win so they will be encouraged to play more. So I realized, there's something wrong with this guy, it's like he's making casinos look bad so people will stop playing there and create a new account under his referral.

For those who are easily fooled, this might be effective, but it's very bad marketing.
Just sharing. What do you guys think?

I believe this is a very long-standing myth, which has little basis since it's persisted for so long, but isn't common practice among casinos. The point is that, apparently, some untrustworthy online casinos once upon a time actually did rig games like slots and allowed new players to win more often to lure them in. But then, these casinos likely didn't allow these players to withdraw their winnings. Someone probably noticed this and blamed them.
Now, however, large, reputable online crypto casinos definitely don't practice this. Because new players are constantly attracted by the good reputations of these large casinos.

[greysonz]

I just remembered, I saw a video on Facebook like months ago about an influencer who was promoting gambling.

So this was his pitch, he said that casinos are manipulating games and mostly letting new sign ups win so they will be encouraged to play more. So I realized, there's something wrong with this guy, it's like he's making casinos look bad so people will stop playing there and create a new account under his referral.

For those who are easily fooled, this might be effective, but it's very bad marketing.
Just sharing. What do you guys think?

I don't think any "influential guy" could possibly know the inner workings of every online casino. It's impossible, because only the owners of each online casino know their system and the mechanisms by which it operates.
There's no insider in the crypto world who could be certain of what's going on everywhere. I think this is just this person's guesswork and an attempt to attract attention. Because I'm sure casinos no longer use such methods to attract customers. If someone gets lucky, that's what happens, and if not, it doesn't matter whether they're a newbie or not, it's not the machinations of online casinos.

[5W-KILO]

I just remembered, I saw a video on Facebook like months ago about an influencer who was promoting gambling.

So this was his pitch, he said that casinos are manipulating games and mostly letting new sign ups win so they will be encouraged to play more. So I realized, there's something wrong with this guy, it's like he's making casinos look bad so people will stop playing there and create a new account under his referral.

For those who are easily fooled, this might be effective, but it's very bad marketing.
Just sharing. What do you guys think?

Still, I don't believe that all he said is wrong, because there are indeed some casinos that are manipulating their games, ask those living in the Philippines, some casinos intentionally avoid registration and regulators because of this.

If it's all lies why are some online casinos operating without been registered?
Especially those who are offering no account operations.

In every lies there is always some truth in it, I am not saying that this man isn't trying to make money through affiliate but what is is also saying have some truth in it.

[Kelward]

Most of these influencers are desperate to make money, their major concerns is what comes into their pockets, they don't care if they are defaming other casinos as far as gamblers believes what they are saying and using their referrals. Many experienced gamblers doesn't take such misleading marketing strategies very seriously, they know that the influencer's aim is to promote their referrals but many new gamblers would fall for their cheap manipulations.

If a casino management are not scammers it means that most of the experiences that gamblers will get from them would be similar to other casinos, there's always the house edge plus you need luck to win. If an influencer doesn't have any proofs about a specific casino's wrongdoings it is bad to generalize because the one that he is promoting is not better than the others.

[crwth]

Whether that's true or not, no one would probably be honest about something like this. No one would take accountability for it.

For the responsible gambling standard, I think it includes transparency in promotions. It protects consumers from false advertisements.

[stadus]

Whether that's true or not, no one would probably be honest about something like this. No one would take accountability for it.

For the responsible gambling standard, I think it includes transparency in promotions. It protects consumers from false advertisements.

If they are being dishonest then they will have to be reported, but if there's no one who will report them they will continue making false advertisements. It's the greediness that drives them and the casinos probably know about it but they are not taking any action especially if it's favoring them as more gamblers are coming. It's business anyway, morals have less value as long as the authorities does not stop them from doing it.

[Die_empty]

Just sharing. What do you guys think?

This is not the first time I've heard that new accounts enjoy some sort of privileges from casinos. There are also some threads on the forum that have discussed these observations. But none of them have shown evidence that this is true.

I miss those, but this one I just want to share so people will be aware of this kind of misleading promotion.

Your thread is okay, as you brought a new perspective to the discussion. I just wanted to add that most of those who put forth this claim don't have evidence to back it up.

Influencers sometimes won't get satisfied with how much the casino are paying them with the promotional clip alone, so they want to utilize and maximize their opportunity to earn from referrals as well.
I've seen enough how aggressive some influencers are enticing their followers to register under his referral. Some are even offering cash and select cashbacks of their own when their referred player lost for the first time.

Many of them don't receive wages or salaries from casinos. They get commission based on how many people joined the casino through referrals. This might be why they devise such strategies to cajole people to register with their links.

[Shinpako09]

This happens not just in the gambling industry but also in other business lines. What a cunning and selfish way of advertising. This kind of promoter is thick-skinned, and he will do all just to get referrals. Well, as long as he doesn't mention other casinos, he is good to go. But it's really unethical for me. Taking a hit on others just to lift the one he is advertising.

What about when those accounts become old, which they eventually will? Does it mean the results they will get are the same as those casinos he is discrediting? They can't possibly make new accounts again because multiple accounts are not allowed in most casinos.

Also, not everyone has beginner's luck. But I don't think still he cares about those matters as long as he earns.

[giammangiato]

Deceptive promotion methods are the order of the day, promotion in 90% of cases aims to affiliate the client, he really has no intention of "donating" rain bonuses or stellar opportunities.
It is up to us to discern "useful" promotions and "junk" promotions, some bonuses are useful, usually useful bonuses however have a very limited budget of a few cents and in very rare cases of a few euros\dollar, they are the most useful and the ones that in my opinion are effective.

[viljy]

That is, he claimed that only new accounts win and urged people to create them using his referral link. First of all, this encourages gullible people to create multiple accounts, i.e., to thereby violate the TOS of most casinos (and, in general, probably the rules of all casinos), which may later lead to problems if a gambler suddenly has a big win.

Well, casinos simply don’t need to resort to such manipulation (and, by the way, it’s not that easy when it comes to gambling games from gambling providers), because probability theory ensures profit as long as the casino operates, and this is absolutely guaranteed. So, manipulations in a style similar to that of early MMORPG (where wealthy players were literally led from one trap to another, squeezing money out of them) are simply unnecessary for casinos.

PS Similar manipulation is also common in mobile games. There, new players are attracted by the ease of gameplay and the chance to win easily, and then the developers strive to maintain a balance of the player’s emotions in order to foster strong engagement.