Why is account's trust feedback not shown to guest visitors?

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

This topic reminds me of what I observed a week ago, that guest visitors are not allowed to see the trust feedback on forum user's account. Assuming a member have been tagged for committing fraud and then there's a warning tag on their profile, how can a guest visitor be able to find out about it and avoid dealing with the account?  It's possible that the guest could contact the person via telegram without having to create an account and PM the on the forut.

I just felt concern about it, that's why I am asking because the trust feedback is useful and help to prevent members from dealing with a scam account. How can a guest visitors do same when they can't see the tags on accounts, meanwhile they must have arrived on the forum through a search results.

[Accardo]

As a guest you could still see a red warning, usually in the service section, saying; one or two users has found this user not to be trust worthy and warns trading with caution.

[un_rank]

If someone is tagged for commuting fraud, the would also have an active flag. Guests can see active newbie warning flags and scammer flags on an account which will show up in each of their threads where they will likely advertize their scam.

Trust feedbacks should be used to give a general idea of a user's trustworthiness and attitude, not for when a scam action has been allegedly committed. This does not relate to guests who are not interacting directly with these users on the forum yet

- Jay -

[logfiles]

It probably has something to do with the forum not moderating the trust system. The ratings you see on other user profiles are individual based and do not represent the opinion or position of the forum. So I think that is what Theymos is trying to avoid. If the feedback was shown to the guest users, it means they would have to no choice but to "trust" feedback by members they completely don't know but if they log in, look through the DT and create their own custom trust lists, whatever feedback they see will be a true representation of whom they have in their trust lists.

It's the reason why the trust flags were introduced. When a scammer has an active trust flag, every topic he makes is will have a banner asking the guest user to log in and have a look at the detailed trust ratings

[Chilwell]

I just felt concern about it, that's why I am asking because the trust feedback is useful and help to prevent members from dealing with a scam account. How can a guest visitors do same when they can't see the tags on accounts, meanwhile they must have arrived on the forum through a search results.

I found it very difficult to believe that every project owner will not investigate before awarding a contract to anyone, this is common, you have to convince your client and by so doing you have to present your previous project which you have done in the past and that alone will convince him or her of award you a contract if eventually you guys meet his requirements. I don't expect any client to award contract without seeing any proof of previous work from the contractor.

In this aspect if you are the kind of person that is sincere, you alone will present all what you have, the trust of people you work with, remember we are talking about money here and everyone is very careful when it comes to money.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

It's the reason why the trust flags were introduced. When a scammer has an active trust flag, every topic he makes is will have a banner asking the guest user to log in and have a look at the detailed trust ratings

In that case, this solves the problem, I didn't know that trust flag can be shown to guest, I thought it won't show just as the truth feedback will not.

[hd49728]

This topic reminds me of what I observed a week ago, that guest visitors are not allowed to see the trust feedback on forum user's account.

Trust feedback can be abused and not too accurate.

The forum has flags and there are newbie flags. You can even see this flag type without having any account in the forum, without need of logging in your account.

Trust flags.
LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system.

[memehunter]

I am of the opinion that at least dt1 member”s trust feedback must be shown. We can also have a criteria like if two or more DT1 members gave the red/green/neutral trust than only it will be shown.
For example, like in this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594059
There is merit manipulation as well for committing fraud and IMO, specifically designed to deceive guest visitors.
If there was no flag, nothing would have stopped from a guest visitor in a hurry to believe otherwise.
Both, the flag and trust feedbacks should be shown.

[Zoomic]

The trust page is very sensitive (be ii +ve or -ve). This is why it's even hidden in some boards. If anyone cares about reputation and don't want to be scammed, they should be able to create an account with the forum.

I consider it odd to start dealing with someone as a guest user without being able to write anywhere in the forum. The trust system as I said above is sensitive and should entirely be an internal affairs. Users with many positive reviews that control large amount of money might become targets for attack.

[NotATether]

It’s shown to all visitors of forum.talksearch.io by default

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I am of the opinion that at least dt1 member”s trust feedback must be shown. We can also have a criteria like if two or more DT1 members gave the red/green/neutral trust than only it will be shown.
For example, like in this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594059
There is merit manipulation as well for committing fraud and IMO, specifically designed to deceive guest visitors.
If there was no flag, nothing would have stopped from a guest visitor in a hurry to believe otherwise.
Both, the flag and trust feedbacks should be shown.

Finally seeing someone that spoke my mind, apart from the thread you shared which I can not see any trust flag for that account, I also saw this case of a loan defaulter https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5599896.msg67346572#msg67346572 of which there's no flag.  Since there's no flag for such accounts, it's still possible that they can create some posts and add a username to their socials account which a guest can easily reach out to them without discovering that they have a red tag on their account.

[memehunter]

the thread you shared which I can not see any trust flag for that account,

Yeah, actually there are two threads with same format (posting first two posts for deception). I wanted to post this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5595330
Anyway the argument remains the same.