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Today at 11:52:56 AM
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A lot of people are really skeptical about bitcoin adoption globally most especially the everyday use of bitcoin. But I think this is a step towards making it possible. Now bitcoin is being used for payment at McDonald in Lugano, Switzerland over the lightning network and very fast payments as a Mayer of fact.

I saw a reply from the video posted on x and the user was like
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“From holding BTC to buying burgers with BTC. That's real-world adoption in action. Lightning making everyday Bitcoin payments faster and easier. ⚡🍔₿”
I’m sharing the video of how it went really fast to make payment with bitcoin at the McDonald using the lightning network.
Truly that’s the kind of bitcoin adoption needed.
https://x.com/pete_rizzo_/status/2121718045932458328?s=46

What are your thoughts on this?

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Today at 12:08:28 PM
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Another piece of good news. If LN increases adoption that might help solve the problem.

Unfortunately, it's not that easy even if we already have a system that we can use for fast payments, because in some countries there's still capital gains tax on Bitcoin. Imagine you buy Bitcoin at a low price and you spend it when the price goes up, so depending on how many transactions you make you also have to calculate the total capital gains tax, isn't that too much hassle?

I think we can really see real adoption if Bitcoin will be treated as a currency in the future.

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Today at 12:20:59 PM
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Lugano is a well known crypto-friendly city in Switzerland (that has been always a cryptofriendly country).  It's interesting to see also a big merchant adopting the technology.
They have also a major of the city actively promoting and advocating in public for bitcoin.  There are few services that have allow to use/spending bitcoin.
It's not a case Plan B network has a big conference every year hosted here and  there are many crypto startups.

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Today at 01:48:04 PM
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The same McDonald's in Lugano mentioned in the topic has been using Lightning since 2022, so guys, it's not the latest news, but indeed it's good news.

The clip on X might be new, but the adoption is four years old as of now. And by 2025, more than 350 merchants in Lugano had accepted Bitcoin as payment, and LN fees are less than 1%. We all know how cheap it is.

Unfortunately, it's not that easy even if we already have a system that we can use for fast payments, because in some countries there's still capital gains tax on Bitcoin. Imagine you buy Bitcoin at a low price and you spend it when the price goes up, so depending on how many transactions you make you also have to calculate the total capital gains tax, isn't that too much hassle?
I hope the proposed bills will soon be approved. BTW, they have been gathering dust since 2024. In 2024, a de minimis exemption bill was proposed by senators, but so far, there has been no response. So it's true that our $5 coffee cup will be taxed, and it's a hassle. I am also sure they will not pass the bill, but someone will come up with a startup to free us from the hassle you mentioned haha.

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Today at 02:27:54 PM
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A lot of people are really skeptical about bitcoin adoption globally most especially the everyday use of bitcoin. But I think this is a step towards making it possible. Now bitcoin is being used for payment at McDonald in Lugano, Switzerland over the lightning network and very fast payments as a Mayer of fact.

I saw a reply from the video posted on x and the user was like
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“From holding BTC to buying burgers with BTC. That's real-world adoption in action. Lightning making everyday Bitcoin payments faster and easier. ⚡🍔₿”
I’m sharing the video of how it went really fast to make payment with bitcoin at the McDonald using the lightning network.
Truly that’s the kind of bitcoin adoption needed.
https://x.com/pete_rizzo_/status/2121718045932458328?s=46

What are your thoughts on this?
I think that in order to eat a burger paid for in bitcoins, we would also need airlines, hotels, and taxis to accept payment in bitcoins - after all, the journey (and the various needs that come with it) to get to that BTC-burger is quite a long one. Smiley

The marketing department at this McDonald’s branch is underperforming: they could have sold an BTC-burger for bitcoin (avoiding trademark licensing fees) and used this as a promotional gimmick. For instance, they could have packed the burgers into bags or boxes branded with the BTC-logo, served cola in cups featuring the BTC-logo, and so on. Also, organize something like a BTC-burger month, decorating the cafe with an appropriate BTC-theme. Why did they merely post a timid notice on the front door about the option to pay in bitcoins and leave it at that?

I’m curious how the regulator will react to this practice of paying for goods or services at McDonald’s in a cryptocurrency rather than the local currency. Are they not aware of it yet? I’m also curious how soon the regulator will put an end to the option of making payments in bitcoins.

Or is it possible in Switzerland to use bitcoin as a means of payment on a legal basis?

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Today at 02:46:12 PM
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What are your thoughts on this?
If you have gone to Switzerland before, you will noticed that this will not surprise you at all because Switzerland has been one of the countries that is very bitcoin and crypto friendly to the extent that it is allowed to be used for everyday things like paying for hotels and others. Switzerland has a crypto friendly financial system.

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Today at 03:21:36 PM
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Another piece of good news. If LN increases adoption that might help solve the problem.

Unfortunately, it's not that easy even if we already have a system that we can use for fast payments, because in some countries there's still capital gains tax on Bitcoin. Imagine you buy Bitcoin at a low price and you spend it when the price goes up, so depending on how many transactions you make you also have to calculate the total capital gains tax, isn't that too much hassle?

I think we can really see real adoption if Bitcoin will be treated as a currency in the future.
Most likely this is where this world is headed to right now with the events unfolding recently; adoption would definitely be on the rise going forward with this type of adoption from McDonald's. Before we would see Bitcoin be treated as a global currency, this kind of use or adoption by various companies would have taken place, and that's exactly what will trigger various government of the to think of it as a legal tender because they can no longer be able to prevent or stop its use.
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Today at 03:31:00 PM
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I’m curious how the regulator will react to this practice of paying for goods or services at McDonald’s in a cryptocurrency rather than the local currency. Are they not aware of it yet? I’m also curious how soon the regulator will put an end to the option of making payments in bitcoins.

Or is it possible in Switzerland to use bitcoin as a means of payment on a legal basis?

Using virtually any form of payment for goods and services is completely legal in Switzerland.

AFAIK Switzerland hasn’t ban the use of cryptocurrencies for purchases of goods and services in the country and the regulators are fully aware of this situation and they seems to be encouraging the practice..

Lugano is the heart of the “Plan BTC” initiative, so it’s pretty normal to see stuffs like a Burger shop accepting lightning payments for burgers.


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Today at 03:57:39 PM
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The same McDonald's in Lugano mentioned in the topic has been using Lightning since 2022, so guys, it's not the latest news, but indeed it's good news.

The clip on X might be new, but the adoption is four years old as of now. And by 2025, more than 350 merchants in Lugano had accepted Bitcoin as payment, and LN fees are less than 1%. We all know how cheap it is.
A quick Google search in Lugano more than 350 to 400 restaurants accept payment with crypto.
This article mentions 255 stores within a radius of 10km, these stores accept payments Lightning Network two among its existing LN & onchain.

Yeah lightning network fees are easier and faster transactions, suppose their store accepts payments onchian then have to wait a long time for confirmation especially when the network is dense it can wait more than 15 minutes 1 confirmation only.

Reasons why shops in Lugano choose LN payments, lightning fast transactions.

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