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April 07, 2014, 08:02:19 AM
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So I sent 100k+ DOGE to a Digitalcoin (DGC) address a month ago. The support at the exchange (unnamed for now cryptsy) I did this is friendly, but won't actually help. How hard can it be? From my understanding they'd have to do two simple commands:

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digitalcoin daemon: dumpprivkey AddressIsentTheCoinsTo
dogecoin daemon: importprivkey yourPrivateKeyInWalletImportFormat

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_to_import_private_keys_v7%2B

What am I missing?

Last answer I got:
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I really apologized but since the coins sent to the wrong address are difficulty to recover and take extra time away from the development of important site features. We are currently working on a system to automate this and appreciate your patience with the situation
Getting quite impatient after a full month. So is site development > user support? Did they really not find the 5 minutes this would take to resolve over the course of one month? Roll Eyes

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I'm not sure that the address keys are interchangeable

Magliette ed adesivi Bitcoin e criptovalute, spedizione gratuita in Italia Grin
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April 07, 2014, 09:36:41 AM
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I'm not sure that the address keys are interchangeable
I'm pretty sure they are, their support told me that aswell.

Cryptsy btw. http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/22evjc/a_month_ago_i_sent_100k_doge_to_a_digicoin/




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April 07, 2014, 09:38:43 AM
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The coins are lost now, you cannot recover sent coins, if you could then crytpo would be pointless
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April 07, 2014, 09:38:57 AM
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they are lost forever
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April 07, 2014, 09:40:07 AM
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I am sorry to say that but your coins are gone forever Sad
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April 07, 2014, 09:41:21 AM
Last edit: April 07, 2014, 09:59:50 AM by peterlustig
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they are lost forever
Considering how slow cryptsy support is that might be actually true...
If they wanted to they could retrieve them in 5 minutes. Also, the first message to the second ticket I sent, 3 weeks ago:
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Please give this 24-72 hrs as our tech support team must respond in order of tickets received.
Please let me know when your deposit has gone thru.
Yeah...  Roll Eyes




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have you tried with the dumpprivkey trick?
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have you tried with the dumpprivkey trick?
The address is under cryptsy's control. Tech support is (allegedly) coding an automatic solution for this, I'd prefer them doing it manually for now as I am waiting so long already.




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Det var ju inte en så lustig historia Cry



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April 07, 2014, 10:18:29 AM
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The coins are lost now, you cannot recover sent coins, if you could then crytpo would be pointless

What absolute garbage, the coins sent in the OP's situation are very easily recovered, however in this instance you need the exchange to come to the party, but for them it is very simple.
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The coins are lost now, you cannot recover sent coins, if you could then crytpo would be pointless

What absolute garbage, the coins sent in the OP's situation are very easily recovered, however you need the exchange to come to the party, but for them it is very simple.

cryptsy doesnt recover coins sent to wrong address
read their tos.

perhaps its too annoying for em
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I feel your pain because I sent coins tothe wrong address once. In my case I was sending them from an exchange to my own wallet. However, I had deleted the address I was sending to from my wallet. I can see mu coins have been sent to the address in the block explorer, but I think I lost them forever because I deleted the address from my wallet.
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very sorry for op
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cryptsy doesnt recover coins sent to wrong address
read their tos.

perhaps its too annoying for em
I have repeatedly been told that users did the same mistake as me and got their coins back. Cryptsy support also told me they'd recover the coins.

Feel free to point out the section you are referencing to: https://www.cryptsy.com/pages/terms

I feel your pain because I sent coins tothe wrong address once. In my case I was sending them from an exchange to my own wallet. However, I had deleted the address I was sending to from my wallet. I can see mu coins have been sent to the address in the block explorer, but I think I lost them forever because I deleted the address from my wallet.
That sucks... I'm not very educated when it comes to the inner workings of wallets, but are you sure the private key to the address has been deleted out of your wallet file aswell? Might be able to get the key with pywallet for example, but that's just a wild guess.

very sorry for op
Awww thanks.  Grin




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April 07, 2014, 10:35:33 AM
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The coins are lost now, you cannot recover sent coins, if you could then crytpo would be pointless

What absolute garbage, the coins sent in the OP's situation are very easily recovered, however you need the exchange to come to the party, but for them it is very simple.

cryptsy doesnt recover coins sent to wrong address
read their tos.

perhaps its too annoying for em

yes I'd say they'd just put it in the cbf basket, but thats pretty poor customer service.

banks will have in the tos typing the right account number is up to the client, but still recover money sent to the wrong account.
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That sucks... I'm not very educated when it comes to the inner workings of wallets, but are you sure the private key to the adress has been deleted out of your wallet file aswell? Might be able to get the key with pywallet for example, but that's just a wild guess.



I was wondering about trying pywallet but have never used it. If anyone with loads of experience could tell me if it's worth bothering then that would be great. I think I made backups of the wallet before I created then deleted the address. I know there should be a pool of 100 addresses when the wallet file was created. I'm just not sure what happens when you delete an address. Does it stay in the wallet without being displayed in the Qt, or is it just deleted?
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I was wondering about trying pywallet but have never used it. If anyone with loads of experience could tell me if it's worth bothering then that would be great. I think I made backups of the wallet before I created then deleted the address. I know there should be a pool of 100 addresses when the wallet file was created. I'm just not sure what happens when you delete an address. Does it stay in the wallet without being displayed in the Qt, or is it just deleted?
I'm a noob but from what I know: If you have a backup from before you created the address the private key could indeed be in there. You could try to dump all private keys out of the backupped wallet with pywallet and import them into the qt-client. Or (backup current wallet first ofcourse) take that old backup of yours and just create hundred addresses, theoretically the address you want should be in there.

But take all that with a grain of salt as I am not very educated about this.  Cheesy




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Thanks, so I should be alright if I have a backup from before creating the address. The problem is I'm not 100% certain I made backups of the wallet before creating the address. There is a chance I'm stuck with a copy of the wallet after deleting the address. If that's right then I assume I lost the coins, but I'm not certain. Maybe pywallet could get them back,or maybe they are gone.
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Yes we can recover some coins sent in this fashion there are situations where this is not the case. You will get your coins more than likely but yes its slow. As we cannot just hand out the secret keys the coins recovered in this fashion can only be done so by certain individuals. Any automated solutions must be tested thoroughly. Sorry for any delay.
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