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December 30, 2011, 12:27:09 AM
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My computer was giving me blue screens today. Had to re-install OS. I couldnt get to my desktop to retrieve my BTC folder. I thought I was safe cause I have a backup on a second HD and on flash USB. But my backup HD is also giving me problems. Computer wont boot with it plugged in. Tried connecting it through an external USB HD enclose too. No luck. HD might be fucked. So I plug in my USB stick copy my BTC folder back over to my fresh install and when I try to launch my wallet I get these error messages and my wallet shuts down. I had 600 coins in my wallet. Please, help me.


this application has requested the runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. please contact the applications support team for more information.

cannot obtain a lock on data directory C/users/ninja/appdata/roaming/bitcoin bitcoin is probably already running.
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December 30, 2011, 12:28:18 AM
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Your wallet's fine.  Instead of moving the entire folder, let an empty wallet sit there and download the blockchain first, THEN move only the wallet in.  For some reason, Bitcoin didn't release the lock on the appdata folder.
edit: Also, when dealing with a large amount of coins like that, don't trust the backup.  The easy solution is to use a Ubuntu liveCD, mount the XP drive and move the files out to a USB. 

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December 30, 2011, 12:35:29 AM
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Your wallet's fine.  Instead of moving the entire folder, let an empty wallet sit there and download the blockchain first, THEN move copy only the wallet in.  For some reason, Bitcoin didn't release the lock on the appdata folder.
edit: Also, when dealing with a large amount of coins like that, don't trust the backup.  The easy solution is to use a Ubuntu liveCD, mount the XP drive and move the files out to a USB. 

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December 30, 2011, 02:46:43 AM
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I tried from another computer. I let it load then I coped wallet.dat to folder. Wallet wont launch. Error message then shut down.
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December 30, 2011, 02:47:38 AM
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Error message? What error?

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December 30, 2011, 02:53:42 AM
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this application has requested the runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. please contact the applications support team for more information.
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December 30, 2011, 02:55:59 AM
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this application has requested the runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. please contact the applications support team for more information.

did you delete %appdata%/bitcoin/ first?

It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

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December 30, 2011, 02:57:23 AM
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which version are you using?

maybe try with an older copy like 0.4.1.1
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December 30, 2011, 06:29:36 AM
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Was using 5.0.1 and I just tried 4.0 my wallet refuses to launch with my wallet.dat file in the folder.
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December 30, 2011, 06:43:23 AM
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I think it may be problematic running the older version (as the Berkley DB version changed sometime recently).

Have you tried starting up your 0.5 version with the "-debug" option?

You might be able to find out more detail about what the problem is (the file "debug.log" hopefully would contain something useful after the crash occurs).


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December 30, 2011, 06:57:16 AM
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I have not tried starting with debug. How do I do that?
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December 30, 2011, 07:07:48 AM
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I have not tried starting with debug. How do I do that?

If you click on Start -> Run and then type: %ProgramFiles%\Bitcoin\bitcoin.exe -debug

then this should do the job.

The file "debug.log" should appear in the same folder as your wallet (assuming you are using the normal folder for that).


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December 30, 2011, 07:14:16 AM
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I can recover the BTC from a wallet regardless of damage, because I ignore the Berkeley DB and just yank the private keys out at the hex level.

Let me know if you would like me to try.  My e-mail is mcaldwell@mc2cs.com.  Send me a bitcoin address where you would like to receive the proceeds.  My process takes under 10 minutes.  PGP is a good idea if you know how.

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: SKS 1.1.0

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EDIT: note: I can't read an encrypted wallet.  This only works if the keys are not encryped... also, if you don't get anywhere and decide to give me a whack at it, please contact me first and make sure I'm around before sending anything, would prefer not to have something like that sitting in my email

Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable.  I never believe them.  If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins.  I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion.  Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice.  Don't keep coins online. Use paper wallets instead.
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December 30, 2011, 04:54:54 PM
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I'm having the same problem as Ninja.  My debug log says:

EXCEPTION: 22DbRunRecoveryException       
DbEnv::open: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery       
C:\Program Files\Bitcoin\bitcoin.exe in AppInit()       

and

EXCEPTION: 11DbException       
Dbc::get: Bad address       
C:\Program Files\Bitcoin\bitcoin-qt.exe in Runaway exception       

and

EXCEPTION: 11DbException       
Dbc::get: Bad address       
C:\Documents and Settings\netbook\Desktop\bitcoin-0.5.1-win32\bitcoin-qt.exe in Runaway exception       


Can anyone clue me in to what is going on?  The client just won't start- and it happened out of the blue. 


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December 30, 2011, 11:25:57 PM
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I tried %ProgramFiles%\Bitcoin\bitcoin.exe -debug i get this message:  windows can not find   C:\program  make sure you typed the name correctly and try again
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December 31, 2011, 12:05:28 AM
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You could just make a shortcut to your bitcoin.exe then right click and go to properties. Add '-debug' to the end of the target and use that shortcut. I'm not sure if it will work though but might be worth a shot

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December 31, 2011, 12:08:44 AM
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I just tried. Wallet wont load. Same error message.

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December 31, 2011, 04:20:21 AM
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I tried %ProgramFiles%\Bitcoin\bitcoin.exe -debug i get this message:  windows can not find   C:\program  make sure you typed the name correctly and try again

Oops - my bad - should have been "%ProgramFiles%\Bitcoin\bitcoin.exe -debug" (i.e. with quotes).

In any case if you are also seeing:

EXCEPTION: 22DbRunRecoveryException       
DbEnv::open: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery

then I guess the debug.log is not really of that much help as I assume that is just saying it can't open a DB because it thinks it is corrupt.

I am guessing there is probably some sort of DB recovery tools out there (a quick search found me http://pybsddb.sourceforge.net/ref/transapp/recovery.html) but I've never played around with Berkeley DB myself and so am not sure exactly whether it would help or not. If the problem was just that file closure didn't occur correctly then I'd assume such a recovery tool should be able to fix things up but if the problem was more serious then it will probably do nothing to help at all.

In any case make sure you've kept a copy of all original files before playing with any such tools!


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December 31, 2011, 04:25:00 AM
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Any suggestions for me?

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December 31, 2011, 04:38:38 AM
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I was reading that link about recovery. It says......

non-catastrophic or normal recovery. If the failure is non-catastrophic and the database files and log are both accessible on a stable filesystem, run the db_recover utility without the -c option or call the DB_ENV->open function specifying the DB_RECOVER flag. The normal recovery process will review the logs and database files to ensure that all changes associated with committed transactions appear in the databases, and that all uncommitted transactions do not appear.

Im suppose to run the utility and use command DB_recover right? How do I access the utility?
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