everyone is saying that Mark Karpeles is bad

[snarlpill]

And there is actually a Bitcoin Magazine in publication...
If you are not a part of this OP, please GTFO or change your name.

[Bitcoin Magazine]

And there is actually a Bitcoin Magazine in publication...
If you are not a part of this OP, please GTFO or change your name.

bitcoin magazine as in magazine of a gun.  

and i'll shoot you with some bBTCitcoins if your not careful

and seriously.  if this guy wants to live without working, like someone on disability, i'd have to guess Mark Karpeles is one of those golden umbrella keeper guys like Kenneth Lay?  how gay is that

he has a family and kids like everyone else.

i don't want to portray Him as a bad guy.

[Nagle]

Well, yes, he's bad.

Losing or stealing half a billion dollars worth of customer assets makes you a bad guy.

[Bitcoin Magazine]

Well, yes, he's bad.

Losing or stealing half a billion dollars worth of customer assets makes you a bad guy.

now this is the part i don't get.  he took all the fiat from the customers but where did the fiat go?  we could at least refund the people what they spent for the BTCitcoinz

[casinocoin]

so doesn't that make him a "good" guy, the likes of Dorian?

Whats that even suppose to mean.....

[Mjbmonetarymetals]

 

[bryant.coleman]

Well, yes, he's bad.
Losing or stealing half a billion dollars worth of customer assets makes you a bad guy.

A strange world in which we live in. Steal $100, and you go to jail. Steal hundreds of millions of $$$, and you are still free!

[Bit_Happy]

but he found like 900,000 BTC in the past month (i read the articles).  so doesn't that make him a "good" guy, the likes of Dorian?

Where in the world did you come up with 900,000 number?  All articles say mtgox "found" a wallet with 200,000 BTC.  That's not even a quarter of what Mark Karpeles and his associates lost/stole from people that trusted (WHY???) them. And he tanked bitcoin in the process.

Look at the guy, does he look trustworthy to you? If you say "yes" then good luck with all the money you still have.

that was the first article, the second article was the 700,000 BTC.  and he DOES look trustworthy.  i'd trust anyone who drinks Starbucks(R) every day.  at least he's not buying guns

Link please.
You can prove this?

[BITCOIN-PIZZA-DAY]

Well, yes, he's bad.
Losing or stealing half a billion dollars worth of customer assets makes you a bad guy.

A strange world in which we live in. Steal $100, and you go to jail. Steal hundreds of millions of $$$, and you are still free!

That's because the godvernment has them.

[jonald_fyookball]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530300.new

[hashme]

a "thief" is someone who carries a gun and threatens people.  Mark isn't like that.  I know him personally.  He is a good guy 

OK, be so kind as to tell him, to release their coins to MtGox users.

[circusmidget11]

Eitherway, he's still not giving any coin found back and has no reason to.  He just has to watchi his back in public for now on.

[bryant.coleman]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530300.new

I am sure that soon he'll find the coins. The US authorities have taken all the necessary steps to bring him to face the justice. The only way for him to avoid a lengthy prison sentence now is to return those coins back to their rightful owners.

[Bit_Happy]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530300.new

I am sure that soon he'll find the coins. The US authorities have taken all the necessary steps to bring him to face the justice. The only way for him to avoid a lengthy prison sentence now is to return those coins back to their rightful owners.

I'm looking forward to seeing his excuse the day he says he found all the coins.

[Lethn]

You don't just 'lose' 100,000BTC - 900,000BTC, if I ever was responsible for that much money it would most likely be at the corner of my mind constantly and I'd have to check it, hell I don't even have a lot of gemstones and silver yet but I'm constantly worrying about losing them, but then again, I seem to have more of a conscience than he does.

I don't like to pass judgement very often before all the evidence is out but it honestly looks to me like he was planning a getaway with all that cash and somebody ratted him out then the authorities caught up to him, so now he's going to invent any excuse he can to make himself look innocent. My alarms went off when he started blaming the Bitcoin code because if there was a problem that big then people would have been all over it because it's open source and all the altcoin devs would be running around like headless chickens.

We'll have to wait and see though whether or not he can produce any evidence to back up his claims or he's just going to keep making more excuses.

[snarlpill]

Now I didn't get Gox'd mind you, but I kind of don't want the US go.v (or any other govs) getting involved with taking him to face justice. That is against what Bitcoin is all about. How can we claim to be decentralized and controlled by no government, but want them to step in and get involved when a problem happens? I've heard BTC referred to as the Wild West right now because it's unregulated, and I actually kinda like that metaphor. It's true though, there ARE definitely scammers and gangsters out there. It's up to us to stick together, spread good, trusted word-of-mouth about companies amongst each other, and build a stronger community where only the trustworthy (secure) businesses survive.

[Bit_Happy]

Now I didn't get Gox'd mind you, but I kind of don't want the US go.v (or any other govs) getting involved with taking him to face justice. That is against what Bitcoin is all about. How can we claim to be decentralized and controlled by no government, but want them to step in and get involved when a problem happens? I've heard BTC referred to as the Wild West right now because it's unregulated, and I actually kinda like that metaphor. It's true though, there ARE definitely scammers and gangsters out there. It's up to us to stick together, spread good, trusted word-of-mouth about companies amongst each other, and build a stronger community where only the trustworthy (secure) businesses survive.

Too late now, the Gov's are involved.
The Wild West is/was "fun", but you don't steal over $500,000,000 without facing serious legal issues.

[/dev/null]

Clarification please

How, exactly, does the FBI have a shred of jurisdiction over a French guy with a company based in Japan?

What'd I miss here?

Mtgox is registered in usa too.

[Light]

Now I didn't get Gox'd mind you, but I kind of don't want the US go.v (or any other govs) getting involved with taking him to face justice. That is against what Bitcoin is all about. How can we claim to be decentralized and controlled by no government, but want them to step in and get involved when a problem happens? I've heard BTC referred to as the Wild West right now because it's unregulated, and I actually kinda like that metaphor. It's true though, there ARE definitely scammers and gangsters out there. It's up to us to stick together, spread good, trusted word-of-mouth about companies amongst each other, and build a stronger community where only the trustworthy (secure) businesses survive.

Just because we want it to be decentralised and not actually controlled by a government doesn't mean we condone or should condone theft from others. I'm personally fine with him facing court considering he either tried to seal the coins or was just grossly negligent and incompetent - to the point he should never ever run an exchange again (not that I think he will).

[loewen.brad]

but he found like 900,000 BTC in the past month (i read the articles).  so doesn't that make him a "good" guy, the likes of Dorian?

lol. "found." right...