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April 08, 2014, 02:23:45 PM
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Not fishy, perfectly normal. The average being  ~10 minutes doesn't mean the longest is 20 and the shortest is 1. It's random so there will be outliers in the amounts of time it takes. I don't know what the longest time is, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were 3 hours or more

"Random" is not good enough for the real world.
Well it is, some block take longer to find then others. Add different mining speeds throughout the day and you get randomness.

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April 08, 2014, 02:26:27 PM
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You must be new here. 1 hour confirmation is basically an everyday occurrence.

Though the better question is, how logical is it to keep the 10 minute confirmation time, when altcoins has already proven that 15 second confirmation is doable without problems.

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April 08, 2014, 02:27:31 PM
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This is a main reason why bitcoin wont be used any time soon in large business Sad unless it gets changed..

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You are correct.  Because of this issue, businesses like TigerDirect.com, Overstock.com, and Las Vegas casinos will NEVER accept bitcoin.  It's a shame, but that's the reality we'll have to live with.
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You don't need a confirmation for a small purchase, just like you don't have to give your signature for a small purchase on a credit card.
yeah? go tell that to bitcoin processing services for merchants, they require 6 confirmations even for small purchases. That will hurt adoption a lot.

You are incorrect.  BitPay does not require 6 confirmations for most transactions.

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April 08, 2014, 02:29:42 PM
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I believe long confirmation times are the biggest detriment to the adoption of Bitcoin. The few times I've bought something with Bitcoin, I was mildly annoyed by the confirmation timeframe. I hope that POS bitcoin-based systems have some way to bypass this. Maybe they already do and I just don't know about it. It stands to reason that a big service, like Bitpay, could allow for approval of a customer before a confirmation on smaller purchases.
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April 08, 2014, 02:35:54 PM
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this morning ... 2 blocks = 2 hours , the 294765 and 294763 ( http://blockr.io/block/list/ )

not a problem.
stop build industrial asic farm ... will simply the difficulty raise level.

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April 08, 2014, 02:41:32 PM
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None of the physical locations in my city allow for zero confirmation transactions. The best have you wait around for one confirmation before they let you go with your purchase. Any size purchase.

This makes using Bitcoin actually a bit less convenient than cash or debit around here because you have no way to know how long you need to wait.

This is a shame.  With more time, and more education, merchants will learn that it isn't always necessary to wait for a confirmation.  There will be other solutions.
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April 08, 2014, 09:01:07 PM
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Seems everybody respoding only read the title of the post. I'm guessing the network came under some sort of delay in service attack. Could the big banks be behind it? It matches their mode of operation.
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April 08, 2014, 09:45:06 PM
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You don't need a confirmation for a small purchase, just like you don't have to give your signature for a small purchase on a credit card. And when you make a deposit into an empty bank account they will let you withdraw a couple hundred bucks even though the check's not cleared or "confirmed."

Someone trying to do a 51% attack wouldn't be wasting the little time they have to pull the off the attack buying coffee and a doughnut.

Did you read the the post I linked above. Sometimes the times between blocks show up as negative. It's not a REAL problem. A real problem is people not buying and selling with bitcoin.

You can still stop a transaction from taking place even after sending the coins, that's why you're supposed to wait until 6 confirmations or so..Bitcoin is not as reliable as you think, and because of that, many retail stores won't accept it....

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April 08, 2014, 11:25:13 PM
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You can still stop a transaction from taking place even after sending the coins, that's why you're supposed to wait until 6 confirmations or so..Bitcoin is not as reliable as you think, and because of that, many retail stores won't accept it....

If you've paid a reasonable transaction fee, and all of the inputs to your transaction are already confirmed, then it is quite difficult to stop a transaction after sending it.  For small transactions, it would be more expensive for to stop the transaction than the cost of the transaction itself.  This is why people say things like:

You don't need a confirmation for a small purchase,
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Someone trying to do a 51% attack wouldn't be wasting the little time they have to pull the off the attack buying coffee and a doughnut.
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In addition, accepting an item or service as part of a purchase transaction, and then reversing the transaction before it confirms is called fraud.  If the merchant can identify you, they can refuse to do business with you in the future and they can have you prosecuted for fraud.  In general, the risk:reward ratio makes it not worth the risk for a small reward such as a free candy bar, doughnut, or coffee
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