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April 08, 2014, 07:22:37 AM
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yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?
At least he is honest, how you know if he use a new ID?
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April 08, 2014, 07:23:08 AM
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yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley


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April 08, 2014, 07:28:18 AM
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yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

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April 08, 2014, 07:29:03 AM
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i think difficulties might be raising too slowly ? The block time should be 60 secs but i am seeing block time of 1-4 sec 100% of the time which explain why i am still having orphan block very often

Are you solo mining with the wallet? I would recommend switching over to SGMiner or CPU-Miner X11 and the p2pool or a mining pool to get more accepts.

yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Why are you so upset? I don't see the hurt in developing this coin...lol

Most likely it wont. Automatic Checkpointing seems to work nicely.

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April 08, 2014, 07:32:23 AM
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i think difficulties might be raising too slowly ? The block time should be 60 secs but i am seeing block time of 1-4 sec 100% of the time which explain why i am still having orphan block very often. The difficulties should adjust high enough for block time of 60 sec but right now it's not doing that. The current block time is too fast and the difficulties is raising too slow

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April 08, 2014, 07:33:56 AM
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yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Then go ahead and code anonymous transactions, but you cant. I am upset because nothing can be done about cloning faggots like you. Your type is the reason why altcoins are all dying.

Have you no respect for someone who is developing a coin by quitting his real job? You just want to copy his work? Do you have no shame?

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April 08, 2014, 07:36:53 AM
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yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Then go ahead and code anonymous transactions. I am upset because nothing can be done about cloning faggots like you. Your type is the reason why altcoins are all dying.

No I believe the people like you that troll coins and call names are the ones that hurt the community and altcoins. No one wants to visit a bitcoin forum and hear a bunch of people name calling and throwing uneducated criticism towards others. I most likely will code in DarkSend eventually. Cloning is huge part of the cryptocurrency world it is how it evolves and is how new brilliant coins like this are created. Just like Litecoin and Namecoin are derived from Bitcoin...they are all copies.. Wink

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April 08, 2014, 07:39:39 AM
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i think difficulties might be raising too slowly ? The block time should be 60 secs but i am seeing block time of 1-4 sec 100% of the time which explain why i am still having orphan block very often

Are you solo mining with the wallet? I would recommend switching over to SGMiner or CPU-Miner X11 and the p2pool or a mining pool to get more accepts.

yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Why are you so upset? I don't see the hurt in developing this coin...lol

Most likely it wont. Automatic Checkpointing seems to work nicely.

i am using sgminer downloaded from your website. I think the often orphan block is due to fast block time.

Well I am showing barely orphans on the pools....make sure your config is setup correctly as well, I would recommend reading the thread on sgminer. The confirm times are very fast as well, Block Generation is suppose to be at 60 seconds but I am wondering if the fast confirms are causing them to speed up somehow? If anyone has any ideas? I am mining with just a CPU and I am getting payouts from the p2pool just fine and plenty of shares! Smiley

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April 08, 2014, 07:40:46 AM
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yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Then go ahead and code anonymous transactions. I am upset because nothing can be done about cloning faggots like you. Your type is the reason why altcoins are all dying.

No I believe the people like you that troll coins and call names are the ones that hurt the community and altcoins. No one wants to visit a bitcoin forum and hear a bunch of people name calling and throwing uneducated criticism towards others. I most likely will code in DarkSend eventually. Cloning is huge part of the cryptocurrency world it is how it evolves and is how new brilliant coins like this are created. Just like Litecoin and Namecoin are derived from Bitcoin...they are all copies.. Wink

You won't code "Darksend", you will clone it. That is not what I meant. You were born to cheat, so you will actually wait for source code to be released and then copy it and calll yourself a dev. Shameless.

I didn't come to this coin to troll. I asked in the previous page if it is still possible to solo mine. And then I saw you posting on this page about cloning Darksend. I cannot stand people like you who get away with cheating in life. Don't flatter yourself by calling it innovation.

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April 08, 2014, 07:43:44 AM
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Sry to say it but this coin is total fail.
What is this announce? And where is info about premine? Broken difficulty retarget. So big fail...
Just please stop creating more and more sh1tcoins without any knowledge how to make one normal stable coin!
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April 08, 2014, 07:45:39 AM
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ya, is the difficulty retarget broken?  Dev please respond.  it seems broken.
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April 08, 2014, 07:46:31 AM
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yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Then go ahead and code anonymous transactions. I am upset because nothing can be done about cloning faggots like you. Your type is the reason why altcoins are all dying.

No I believe the people like you that troll coins and call names are the ones that hurt the community and altcoins. No one wants to visit a bitcoin forum and hear a bunch of people name calling and throwing uneducated criticism towards others. I most likely will code in DarkSend eventually. Cloning is huge part of the cryptocurrency world it is how it evolves and is how new brilliant coins like this are created. Just like Litecoin and Namecoin are derived from Bitcoin...they are all copies.. Wink

You won't code "Darksend", you will clone it. That is not what I meant. You were born to cheat, so you will actually wait for source code to be released and then copy it and calll yourself a dev. Shameless.

I didn't come to this coin to troll. I asked in the previous page if it is still possible to solo mine. And then I saw you posting on this page about cloning Darksend. I cannot stand people like you who get away with cheating in life. Don't flatter yourself by calling it innovation.

Everyone starts somewhere, I am pretty sure there is no university for learning cryptocurrency. I took C++ in High School just a rough overview class (Now 4 years graduated, but no degree yet only diploma). But I am honestly too poor to afford real schooling and can barely afford to pay my rent, life is rough, and this is something that takes my mind off real world stress, I love cryptocurrencies and the innovation. Sometimes people don't have all the resources in the world to create, but they create with what they can, and it is always a learning process. I do know a lot of programming languages as I have been coding since I was 11...I have learned the way Bitcoin is coded (Google, Forums, Hours of playing with header and c++ files, my own current knowledge) and have been able to find myself around the code just fine, being able to implement something isn't as always as easy as just copy and paste as well. So please don't flatter yourself in thinking you are correct in anyway.


EDIT: To everyone asking about the difficulty, It has gone up to 1.0 now, it has adjusted, should be fine, coin seems stable from my end for all those that like to accuse Wink

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April 08, 2014, 07:48:57 AM
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i think difficulties might be raising too slowly ? The block time should be 60 secs but i am seeing block time of 1-4 sec 100% of the time which explain why i am still having orphan block very often

Are you solo mining with the wallet? I would recommend switching over to SGMiner or CPU-Miner X11 and the p2pool or a mining pool to get more accepts.

yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Why are you so upset? I don't see the hurt in developing this coin...lol

Most likely it wont. Automatic Checkpointing seems to work nicely.

i am using sgminer downloaded from your website. I think the often orphan block is due to fast block time.

Well I am showing barely orphans on the pools....make sure your config is setup correctly as well, I would recommend reading the thread on sgminer. The confirm times are very fast as well, Block Generation is suppose to be at 60 seconds but I am wondering if the fast confirms are causing them to speed up somehow? If anyone has any ideas? I am mining with just a CPU and I am getting payouts from the p2pool just fine and plenty of shares! Smiley

If the block time continue to be 1-4 sec , max coin will be reach in less than a month

Hashcoin difficulty and block reward was adjusted Wink So I don't think you need to worry. The blocks are generating every 60 seconds now, I think the network had a big fluctuation and it took a second for the difficulty to adjust Wink

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April 08, 2014, 07:54:55 AM
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i think difficulties might be raising too slowly ? The block time should be 60 secs but i am seeing block time of 1-4 sec 100% of the time which explain why i am still having orphan block very often

Are you solo mining with the wallet? I would recommend switching over to SGMiner or CPU-Miner X11 and the p2pool or a mining pool to get more accepts.

yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Why are you so upset? I don't see the hurt in developing this coin...lol

Most likely it wont. Automatic Checkpointing seems to work nicely.

i am using sgminer downloaded from your website. I think the often orphan block is due to fast block time.

Well I am showing barely orphans on the pools....make sure your config is setup correctly as well, I would recommend reading the thread on sgminer. The confirm times are very fast as well, Block Generation is suppose to be at 60 seconds but I am wondering if the fast confirms are causing them to speed up somehow? If anyone has any ideas? I am mining with just a CPU and I am getting payouts from the p2pool just fine and plenty of shares! Smiley

If the block time continue to be 1-4 sec , max coin will be reach in less than a month

Well I guess we will see Wink I hope you are right! Hashcoin block reward was adjusted as well Wink So I don't think you need to worry.

what i meant is if the difficulties right now continue without change. If the average block time is 4 sec, 1 hour u will have 900 blocks , 1 day u will have 216,000 block. Each block give 152 coin, i day u get 3.2 million coin. Only 13 days is needed to reach max coin of 44 million.

The blocks are generating by every 60 seconds now. I don't think you need to worry, there may be small amounts of time where the blocks may speed up due to the network it looks like, but other than that it seems to stabilize Smiley

The block reward also dropped to 147 HASH Wink

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April 08, 2014, 07:55:13 AM
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yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Then go ahead and code anonymous transactions. I am upset because nothing can be done about cloning faggots like you. Your type is the reason why altcoins are all dying.

No I believe the people like you that troll coins and call names are the ones that hurt the community and altcoins. No one wants to visit a bitcoin forum and hear a bunch of people name calling and throwing uneducated criticism towards others. I most likely will code in DarkSend eventually. Cloning is huge part of the cryptocurrency world it is how it evolves and is how new brilliant coins like this are created. Just like Litecoin and Namecoin are derived from Bitcoin...they are all copies.. Wink

You won't code "Darksend", you will clone it. That is not what I meant. You were born to cheat, so you will actually wait for source code to be released and then copy it and calll yourself a dev. Shameless.

I didn't come to this coin to troll. I asked in the previous page if it is still possible to solo mine. And then I saw you posting on this page about cloning Darksend. I cannot stand people like you who get away with cheating in life. Don't flatter yourself by calling it innovation.

Everyone starts somewhere, I am pretty sure there is no university for learning cryptocurrency. I took C++ in High School just a rough overview class (Now 4 years graduated, but no degree yet only diploma). But I am honestly too poor to afford real schooling and can barely afford to pay my rent, life is rough, and this is something that takes my mind off real world stress, I love cryptocurrencies and the innovation. Sometimes people don't have all the resources in the world to create, but they create with what they can, and it is always a learning process. I do know a lot of programming languages as I have been coding since I was 11...I have learned the way Bitcoin is coded (Google, Forums, Hours of playing with header and c++ files, my own current knowledge) and have been able to find myself around the code just fine, being able to implement something isn't as always as easy as just copy and paste as well. So please don't flatter yourself in thinking you are correct in anyway.


EDIT: To everyone asking about the difficulty, It has gone up to 1.0 now, it has adjusted, should be fine, coin seems stable from my end for all those that like to accuse Wink

Don't need to know your cloning skills. Your arrogance drowns your conniving stupidity. Like I said you were born to cheat and not go anywhere in life. That is why you don't have money to pay rent. Cheats dont go anywhere. Enjoy when the world wakes up to this stupid coin and everyone dumps on the exchanges to kill it.

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April 08, 2014, 07:57:17 AM
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yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Then go ahead and code anonymous transactions. I am upset because nothing can be done about cloning faggots like you. Your type is the reason why altcoins are all dying.

No I believe the people like you that troll coins and call names are the ones that hurt the community and altcoins. No one wants to visit a bitcoin forum and hear a bunch of people name calling and throwing uneducated criticism towards others. I most likely will code in DarkSend eventually. Cloning is huge part of the cryptocurrency world it is how it evolves and is how new brilliant coins like this are created. Just like Litecoin and Namecoin are derived from Bitcoin...they are all copies.. Wink

You won't code "Darksend", you will clone it. That is not what I meant. You were born to cheat, so you will actually wait for source code to be released and then copy it and calll yourself a dev. Shameless.

I didn't come to this coin to troll. I asked in the previous page if it is still possible to solo mine. And then I saw you posting on this page about cloning Darksend. I cannot stand people like you who get away with cheating in life. Don't flatter yourself by calling it innovation.

Everyone starts somewhere, I am pretty sure there is no university for learning cryptocurrency. I took C++ in High School just a rough overview class (Now 4 years graduated, but no degree yet only diploma). But I am honestly too poor to afford real schooling and can barely afford to pay my rent, life is rough, and this is something that takes my mind off real world stress, I love cryptocurrencies and the innovation. Sometimes people don't have all the resources in the world to create, but they create with what they can, and it is always a learning process. I do know a lot of programming languages as I have been coding since I was 11...I have learned the way Bitcoin is coded (Google, Forums, Hours of playing with header and c++ files, my own current knowledge) and have been able to find myself around the code just fine, being able to implement something isn't as always as easy as just copy and paste as well. So please don't flatter yourself in thinking you are correct in anyway.


EDIT: To everyone asking about the difficulty, It has gone up to 1.0 now, it has adjusted, should be fine, coin seems stable from my end for all those that like to accuse Wink

Don't need to know your cloning skills. Your arrogance drowns your conniving stupidity. Like I said you were born to cheat and not go anywhere in life. That is why you don't have money to pay rent. Cheats dont go anywhere. Enjoy when the world wakes up to this stupid coin and everyone dumps on the exchanges to kill it.

Your negativity isn't worth anyones time. Nor does it help in the development of this coin.

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Whats wrong with this? Shiny silver good boy badge for first correct answer. Its nice to copy and paste even nicer when you know what your copying.
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April 08, 2014, 08:08:35 AM
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yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Then go ahead and code anonymous transactions, but you cant. I am upset because nothing can be done about cloning faggots like you. Your type is the reason why altcoins are all dying.

Have you no respect for someone who is developing a coin by quitting his real job? You just want to copy his work? Do you have no shame?

Np he has no shame.  He's a pathetic hack.

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Sry to say it but this coin is total fail.
What is this announce? And where is info about premine? Broken difficulty retarget. So big fail...
Just please stop creating more and more sh1tcoins without any knowledge how to make one normal stable coin!

I warned everyone that this 22 year old punk was nothing more than a pathetic hack.

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April 08, 2014, 08:10:48 AM
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yup. its funny how only going on an exchange is the hype.


dev, if this is your favorite coin so far. whats your focus in future?

To possibly implement DarkSend to bring anonymity to transactions as I like the idea with it...Probably see how DGW V2 plays out with Automatic Checkpointing and if we need to switch to NGW or not. See how the network runs over the next month or so, see what feedback the community brings and just continue to build this coin a solid future! Smiley



Wow did you grow up cheating and scumbagging all your life. You faggots give a bad name to open source.

Done with this coin. Will see if this needs to be forked over down the road.

Then go ahead and code anonymous transactions, but you cant. I am upset because nothing can be done about cloning faggots like you. Your type is the reason why altcoins are all dying.

Have you no respect for someone who is developing a coin by quitting his real job? You just want to copy his work? Do you have no shame?

Np he has no shame.  He's a pathetic hack.

Dude you are a scab. Get off. I can't wait until your banned. I have seen the huge thread on you being a huge scammer.

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