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April 08, 2014, 06:22:02 PM
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Once you go Linux you wont go back.
yeah Linux is way better then any other OS ..! but only if you like change and ready to adapt..! not many users will switch from their existing OS no matter how good it is..!
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April 08, 2014, 06:27:05 PM
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Windows 8.1 actually brings back the start button!
What other option they had other than bring it back..! Who ever took the final decision on getting rid of start button on win8 was not as wise as he/she thought ..!
The guy who took that decision isn't working for Microsoft anymore now, isn't he?

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April 08, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
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Windows 8.1 actually brings back the start button!
What other option they had other than bring it back..! Who ever took the final decision on getting rid of start button on win8 was not as wise as he/she thought ..!
The guy who took that decision isn't working for Microsoft anymore now, isn't he?
I think he still is in Microsoft..! but to answer more precisely it will require a lil research before claiming somthing.. and at this point of day i'm tired and not in mood of doin any research work..! so anyone who has a proper knowledge about the subject can answer ..! 

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April 08, 2014, 07:24:48 PM
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Once you go Linux you wont go back.
yeah Linux is way better then any other OS ..! but only if you like change and ready to adapt..! not many users will switch from their existing OS no matter how good it is..!
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April 08, 2014, 07:25:57 PM
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Once you go Linux you wont go back.

I hate Linux, but I have to use it at work... Sad, at home I use windows.

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April 08, 2014, 07:27:53 PM
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Once you go Linux you wont go back.

I hate Linux, but I have to use it at work... Sad, at home I use windows.

What do you hate about it and prefer with Windows?

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April 08, 2014, 07:38:52 PM
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Sucks they didnt make a XPS version, that would have attracted way more consumers, but since windows xp Windows has been garbage and less friendly

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April 08, 2014, 07:48:41 PM
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Once you go Linux you wont go back.

I hate Linux, but I have to use it at work... Sad, at home I use windows.

What do you hate about it and prefer with Windows?

It is harder to work with many files and folders open.

And maybe I have just used to Windows.

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April 08, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
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Windows 8.1 actually brings back the start button!
What other option they had other than bring it back..! Who ever took the final decision on getting rid of start button on win8 was not as wise as he/she thought ..!
The guy who took that decision isn't working for Microsoft anymore now, isn't he?
I think he still is in Microsoft..! but to answer more precisely it will require a lil research before claiming somthing.. and at this point of day i'm tired and not in mood of doin any research work..! so anyone who has a proper knowledge about the subject can answer ..! 
I believe Chaitanya Sareen (article) still works at Microsoft. I believe one of the managers behind Windows 8 left, I must be mistaken.

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April 08, 2014, 08:46:36 PM
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There is really not much justification for more MS OS'ms. Are there any essential things that Windows 7 and 8 contain, that XP does not?

Minor updates and bugfixes would be sufficient. Instead there are major releases which are bloated with graphical gimmick that just waste system resources but add nothing substantial.
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April 08, 2014, 08:57:43 PM
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There is really not much justification for more MS OS'ms. Are there any essential things that Windows 7 and 8 contain, that XP does not?

Minor updates and bugfixes would be sufficient. Instead there are major releases which are bloated with graphical gimmick that just waste system resources but add nothing substantial.

Security/speed/latest standard compatibilities, XP is so popular because it is light and when vista came out vista had too much incompatibility issues and didn't like old machines thats why XP remained strong
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April 08, 2014, 10:41:06 PM
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i think demand of XP is down in market after windows 7 thats why Sad

No, it's because it's a really old operating system which support was meant to end many, many years ago, but they kept extending it due to the amount of people that still had it.
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April 08, 2014, 10:55:44 PM
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Minor updates and bugfixes would be sufficient. Instead there are major releases which are bloated with graphical gimmick that just waste system resources but add nothing substantial.

XP entire security model is broken.  Microsoft has tried to patch it as best they could but it is like adding suport to a house built on sand.   Windows 7 is vastly superior from a security standpoint.   There are whole classes of security vulnerabilities which affect XP only, 90%+ of botnet nodes are Windows XP machines.  Sure you could use a patch which completely rewrites the core processes of XP but you would essentially be creating Windows 7.  There is absolutely no reason to be using Windows XP at this point (or even four years ago).

If Windows 7 offered nothing else the inclusion of Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR), PatchGuard, UAC, and Protected Mode Internet Explorer make it inherently more secure than Windows XP can ever be.
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RIP Windows XP I used it long time ago it was good os. Now I am using Win7. Too bad that a lot of devices, mainly 90% ATMs are still running on XP it could be bad...


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April 08, 2014, 11:04:52 PM
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Windows 8.1 actually brings back the start button!

Yeah, but it doesn't work like the start button.
Win8 is likely the only OS you have to purchase some shareware to make it work halfway useful again.

It's not surprising that the Win8 lead designer has been fired from MicroSoft.

Metro design looks like a 16 color CGA design for the visually impaired (reminds me of the Win95 basic design for handicapped users).
Even the 25 years old C64 GEOS or the Commodore AMIGA Workbench offered higher usability than Metro on a Desktop. Heck I'd rather sit in front of a 15 year old SGI Irix 6.5 Desktop on a 20 year old Indigo2 200MHz Unix workstation - at least that GUI actually works like a charm and still looks heaps & bounds better than this retarded Metro design error.

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Windows 8.1 actually brings back the start button!

Yeah, but it doesn't work like the start button.
Win8 is likely the OS you have to purchase some shareware to make it work halfway useful again.

It's not surprising that the Win8 lead designer has been fired from MicroSoft.

You think that is bad.  The server OS use the same interface.   Imagine no start menu on a server.
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April 08, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
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Windows 8.1 actually brings back the start button!

Yeah, but it doesn't work like the start button.
Win8 is likely the only OS you have to purchase some shareware to make it work halfway useful again.

It's not surprising that the Win8 lead designer has been fired from MicroSoft.

Metro design looks like a 16 color CGA design for the visually impaired (reminds me of the Win95 basic design for handicapped users).
Even the 25 years old C64 GEOS or the Commodore AMIGA Workbench offered higher usability than Metro on a Desktop. Heck I'd rather sit in front of a 15 year old SGI Irix 6.5 Desktop on a 20 year old Indigo2 200MHz Unix workstation - at least that GUI actually works like a charm and still looks heaps & bounds better than this retarded Metro design error.

haha, so true! I would not describe it better myself. I will wait for windows 9 now because they probably fix most of the problems there.


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April 08, 2014, 11:55:35 PM
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Windows 8.1 actually brings back the start button!

Yeah, but it doesn't work like the start button.
Win8 is likely the only OS you have to purchase some shareware to make it work halfway useful again.

It's not surprising that the Win8 lead designer has been fired from MicroSoft.

Metro design looks like a 16 color CGA design for the visually impaired (reminds me of the Win95 basic design for handicapped users).
Even the 25 years old C64 GEOS or the Commodore AMIGA Workbench offered higher usability than Metro on a Desktop. Heck I'd rather sit in front of a 15 year old SGI Irix 6.5 Desktop on a 20 year old Indigo2 200MHz Unix workstation - at least that GUI actually works like a charm and still looks heaps & bounds better than this retarded Metro design error.

Actually it does, he talking about 8.1 update 1
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Actually it does, he talking about 8.1 update 1

Ah, okay, so they re-patched their 8.1 Patch to 8.1.1 then... At least something.

btw, I'm not really against offering new GUI conventions (even if they break the old ones) - BUT they have to be optional.
Had MicroSoft offered to make a simple choice to use either Win2000 - XP - Aero - Metro GUI, they would have saved themselves from alot of trouble.
But it seems they preferred to go the Office Ribbons route "Fail to find even the most-used and basic functions!!".

On a positive note, all that re-introduced the users back to the Windows Keyboard shortcuts and the console Wink
(which are quicker in producing results than their failed Metro GUI or Ribbons UI any day)

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April 09, 2014, 02:04:09 AM
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Actually it does, he talking about 8.1 update 1

Ah, okay, so they re-patched their 8.1 Patch to 8.1.1 then... At least something.

btw, I'm not really against offering new GUI conventions (even if they break the old ones) - BUT they have to be optional.
Had MicroSoft offered to make a simple choice to use either Win2000 - XP - Aero - Metro GUI, they would have saved themselves from alot of trouble.
But it seems they preferred to go the Office Ribbons route "Fail to find even the most-used and basic functions!!".

On a positive note, all that re-introduced the users back to the Windows Keyboard shortcuts and the console Wink
(which are quicker in producing results than their failed Metro GUI or Ribbons UI any day)

Yes exactly, they are offering the option now to by pass the whole modern UI thingy (they don't call it metro as in windows phone and don't know why) Modern UI is good but not right now maybe when they'll be a strong appstore and most have a touch screen device but right now it's just a pain for those who doesn't have those
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