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April 08, 2014, 05:54:37 PM
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If I started my own nation, would you join?
Would you be willing to by military means defend against the country from which we stole our territory from?
We would be a nation with the principles of "Be nice" (yes, marijuana would be legal).
We would be a nation where you only work a few hours a week with communal stuff like farming, fishing or building, and in exchange you'd get a house to live in and organic food (and most of the time you could whatever you want, like: lie on the beach and getting high).
Weapons would be banned unless we were invaded (there would be no reason to have them otherwise).
Hard drugs would be illegal (like heroin or cocain).
We would live in harmony with nature, and our electricity would be 100% renewable.
We would have a direct-democracy, so everyone could get their voice through.
Yeah, basically start an utopia?

Which of you would join?
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April 08, 2014, 07:53:43 PM
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depends where the country would be located

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April 08, 2014, 08:11:09 PM
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depends where the country would be located
In a warm place, like the Caribbean! Cheesy
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April 08, 2014, 08:13:03 PM
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depends where the country would be located
In a warm place, like the Caribbean! Cheesy

too far away from my family, sorry, nope Cheesy

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April 08, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
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The same nation with bryant.coleman? No problem with me if you got hot babes in your nation.
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April 08, 2014, 08:21:59 PM
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The same nation with bryant.coleman? No problem with me if you got hot babes in your nation.
It could be, I don't know. This was just an idea I got, so this could be a new island, or an island already claimed by some country.
Well then, I'll make sure there are some hot babes when I start it! Cheesy
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April 08, 2014, 08:27:37 PM
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The same nation with bryant.coleman? No problem with me if you got hot babes in your nation.
It could be, I don't know. This was just an idea I got, so this could be a new island, or an island already claimed by some country.
Well then, I'll make sure there are some hot babes when I start it! Cheesy

will you legalise prostitution? Cheesy

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April 08, 2014, 08:30:38 PM
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Bitcoinland? I'll join.
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April 09, 2014, 05:23:16 AM
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The same nation with bryant.coleman? No problem with me if you got hot babes in your nation.
It could be, I don't know. This was just an idea I got, so this could be a new island, or an island already claimed by some country.
Well then, I'll make sure there are some hot babes when I start it! Cheesy

will you legalise prostitution? Cheesy
Yes, if the prostituted person wanted to be prostituted it would be ok.
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April 09, 2014, 06:00:18 AM
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Do you guys ever played Bioshock? Have you ever seen Rapture? If yes you will know how this would end, this whole 'utopia country' dream. Sad


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April 09, 2014, 06:44:52 AM
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The same nation with bryant.coleman? No problem with me if you got hot babes in your nation.

Nope. It is different. I am trying to build an artificial island in the international waters. He is talking about seceding from an already sovereign nation. Both options have its own advantages, and disadvantages.  Grin
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April 09, 2014, 07:50:12 AM
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The same nation with bryant.coleman? No problem with me if you got hot babes in your nation.

Nope. It is different. I am trying to build an artificial island in the international waters. He is talking about seceding from an already sovereign nation. Both options have its own advantages, and disadvantages.  Grin

yes, but bryants version is legal and the other one is not

if we want international support and recognition we must do only what is legal Smiley

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April 09, 2014, 08:02:06 AM
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The same nation with bryant.coleman? No problem with me if you got hot babes in your nation.

Nope. It is different. I am trying to build an artificial island in the international waters. He is talking about seceding from an already sovereign nation. Both options have its own advantages, and disadvantages.  Grin

yes, but bryants version is legal and the other one is not

if we want international support and recognition we must do only what is legal Smiley
Just remember that his idea could be considered illegal according to international law, since none has ever tried that before (I totally support that idea anyway! Smiley).


Yes, it's true that my country would not be "legal", but then, who decides if it's legal or not? The rest of the world? Sure, they can tell me it's illegal, but that wouldn't change the fact that I had an independent country. This project (which is only hypotecally) would not give a fuck about what the rest of the world thought of us. Sure, they could invade us, but as long as we are willing to defend it against the invaders we could succeed (because if they invade and kill all people in a place that they do not recognize a country, it would be considered murder by the rest of the world).
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April 09, 2014, 08:19:42 AM
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Just remember that his idea could be considered illegal according to international law

Yes... I have to concede that right now I am in the grey zone... that is not much is defined. I am still gathering all the available information and studying the legal prospects.  Sad
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April 09, 2014, 08:49:10 AM
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are you serious? join some new county and defend it in military? no way
life is too precious to be on a whim of your business
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April 09, 2014, 08:55:55 AM
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are you serious? join some new county and defend it in military? no way
life is too precious to be on a whim of your business
Don't join then. Hopefully we wouldn't even have to defend it, loss of life is just unnecessary.
However, if they do attack we have to defend, otherwise we cannot build our utopia.
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April 09, 2014, 09:01:46 AM
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If the country currency is bitcoin,then count me in  Wink

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April 09, 2014, 07:02:34 PM
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If the country currency is bitcoin,then count me in  Wink

of course, none of us would join if it was otherwise Cheesy

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April 10, 2014, 03:52:43 AM
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Nice plan, but is it possible ?

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April 10, 2014, 05:34:30 AM
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Nice plan, but is it possible ?
Yes, as long as people believe in it (and are willing to fight for it, which they were not in Minerva for example).
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