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Author Topic: [ANN] NiceHash.com - sell & buy hash rate cloud mining service / multipool  (Read 794388 times)
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April 14, 2014, 08:59:40 AM
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We've updated FAQ's with lot's of additional information and useful insights, so I really welcome you check on FAQ's. I would especially recommend:

General:
How exactly does pay-per-valid-share and get-paid-per-valid share work?
http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqg2

Buyers of hash power:
How can I buy hash power at NiceHash?
http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqb0

Rig providers: sellers:
Which miners are supported?
http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs0

I have slow mining rig. Can I adjust difficulty?
http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs7

Can you help me with transition to sgminer?
http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs8
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April 14, 2014, 11:17:40 AM
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- optionally select your desired speed (to-do)
You really need to add this option. Most pools use PPLNS and I don't think it works great with current system. If you mine for 1hr at insane speed, and then just switch it off, I'm pretty sure pool pays you a lot less. Also buying hashing power for a short period of time might screw you over if pool was unlucky during that time. Renting stable 10MH/s for 24hrs is a lot better than renting 500MH/s for 1hr IMO.
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April 14, 2014, 11:49:43 AM
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Is the scrypt-N servers down?  Huh
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April 14, 2014, 11:59:16 AM
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- optionally select your desired speed (to-do)
You really need to add this option. Most pools use PPLNS and I don't think it works great with current system. If you mine for 1hr at insane speed, and then just switch it off, I'm pretty sure pool pays you a lot less. Also buying hashing power for a short period of time might screw you over if pool was unlucky during that time. Renting stable 10MH/s for 24hrs is a lot better than renting 500MH/s for 1hr IMO.

Will do it soon ... it on our high-priority top to-do list.

I would just like to add a few things about mining and renting hash power. When you hire a rig, you don't hire it because of the constant speed it offers, but because it can mine you some coins. To mine coins efficiently, it is all about proper timing. And what you need besides proper timing? High hashing speed - so that you can take all the blocks for yourself and maximize the profit.

Try to be more "open" minded and you will realize at the end, that this is a great service. NiceHash offers you proper timing (you can put order up and take it down whenever you want) and high hashing speed. Everything else are details and mind obstructions laid by other prior services.

It is strange, that not one of you talks about the main benefit you gain as a buyer - reliability. You don't have to be worried about rigs going down, you don't have to contact providers or open tickets to get a refund, you don't have to measure and monitor speeds constantly to see if the provider didn't trick you out for few khs.

If you asked me 2 months back if I would risk some BTCs to hire some hashing power to mine a coin - my answer would be no - not because I wouldn't know which coin to mine, but because I wouldn't trust anyone to hire rigs from. It is no problem to risk small amounts, that is acceptable, but imagine situation you would like to invest large amount, like 5 BTCs to get a decent amount of coins when there is a chance to get them at low diff rate. If the expected turn-over is then 5.5 BTCs, that means to actually earn 0.5 BTCs, you need to hire 100% reliable rigs. Now, how many rigs do you need to hire to get 1 GH/s hashing power? A lot! And how many of these will perform 100% reliably during this period? 80% if you are lucky. The rest, you will have to beg for refunds, extensions, wasting your time doing this and minimizing your profit.

NiceHash takes everything to the next level, because as a buyer, you can actually play by statistics and then actually win, even if the statistics tell you the profit is only 1% - at the end, you actually get this profit, hassle free.

If you ask me now, would I risk some BTCs to buy hashing power on NiceHash? Yes I would! Just let me find a coin on which it is worth (I am a bit rusty in that now, haven't been up with the scene lately). The only remaining thing to worry about is which coin (and pool) to pick - nothing else! And that is the major benefit of NiceHash.

And yes, in some cases, mining with 3 GH/s might be an overkill - if there is just few MH/s of network power, it is pointless to come in with 3 GH/s on a coin that adjusts diff quickly. A 100 MH/s hashing power would be enough. Now this is a feature that will come in soon - you will be able to limit your maximal hashing power.

After thinking for a while, there are other use cases for the service - not explored yet. Just let me give you some hints (assuming offered hashing speed is few GH/s in near future):
1. You can fork (shit) coins with this.
2. You can compete with multipools directly - if you can quickly detect these "holes" of low diffs on coins, you can extract a lot of coins out of this. I believe some already have algorithms for that and combining them with offered hashpower from NiceHash could really earn you some decent amount of coins, way above what you pay for hashes.
3. Use slush0's stratum proxy and you can solo mine with few GH/s - that one alone is worth trying once at least Wink
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April 14, 2014, 12:47:39 PM
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Is the scrypt-N servers down?  Huh

No, our Scrypt-A-Nfactor stratum is now down, it is just that currently there are no active orders for Scrypt-A-Nfactor. You have to use a backup pool. Please take a look at FAQ http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs1, where this is explained in details.

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April 14, 2014, 01:18:11 PM
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Is the scrypt-N servers down?  Huh

No, our Scrypt-A-Nfactor stratum is now down, it is just that currently there are no active orders for Scrypt-A-Nfactor. You have to use a backup pool. Please take a look at FAQ http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs1, where this is explained in details.



Ah thank you. Sorry for not looking Tongue
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April 14, 2014, 03:34:00 PM
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Any ETA on getting x11 added? Most of the popular renting services have it already. Would love to throw mine in here and give it a go.

X11 will be added soon, probably by the end of this week.

Great! Looking forward to it.
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April 14, 2014, 04:29:03 PM
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Miners are seriously needed! There are plenty good paying Scrypt orders! Give it a try and point your miners to NiceHash and get paid 4 times a day!
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April 14, 2014, 04:32:49 PM
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I'm using NiceHash for 4 days already providing 2.5 Mh, I like everything so far, just wanted to say thanks to developers, keep it that way!
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April 14, 2014, 05:14:39 PM
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I am getting only rejected : Rejected 39047b86 Diff 1.15K/128 GPU 1 Pool 3 (Share above target.)
My friends reported the same with cgminer. Is there any problem on scrypt stratum ?
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April 14, 2014, 05:27:28 PM
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I am getting only rejected : Rejected 39047b86 Diff 1.15K/128 GPU 1 Pool 3 (Share above target.)
My friends reported the same with cgminer. Is there any problem on scrypt stratum ?

cgminer does not work, try sgminer :-)
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April 14, 2014, 06:06:55 PM
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I am getting only rejected : Rejected 39047b86 Diff 1.15K/128 GPU 1 Pool 3 (Share above target.)
My friends reported the same with cgminer. Is there any problem on scrypt stratum ?

cgminer does not work, try sgminer :-)

True, cgminer 3.7.2 has a bug and doesn't work with our stratum (Due to the NiceHash's latest state-of-the art engine, older miners are not supported.) ... please read https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs0 ... you'll find detailed information on which miners are supported (basically all except of cgminer 3.7.2 Wink ). You'll also find some useful information on how to configure your miners, how to squeeze some more hashrate by using optimized kernels, etc.
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April 14, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
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How does the displayed hashrate on NiceHash work, exactly? I'm renting, and see an scrypt speed of 0.1345 GH/s listed, but only see 16MH/s on my pool. I would expect to see 134.5MH/s...

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April 14, 2014, 06:59:04 PM
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It is around 130MH/s, usually you have to let it run for some time to see the real hashrate.
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Hashrate based on shares submitted in the past 5 minutes.

Also, 0.008BTC/MH? WTF?  Grin

Edit: Oh, now it's 0.010BTC/MH, okay.
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April 14, 2014, 07:19:38 PM
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How does the displayed hashrate on NiceHash work, exactly? I'm renting, and see an scrypt speed of 0.1345 GH/s listed, but only see 16MH/s on my pool. I would expect to see 134.5MH/s...

NiceHash calculates hashrate based on shares submitted in the past 5 minutes. Most pools calculates hashrate based on shares submited in the past 10+ minutes. What happend to you is that probably your order wasn't running long enough for your pool to display full hashrate.
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April 14, 2014, 07:26:30 PM
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It is around 130MH/s, usually you have to let it run for some time to see the real hashrate.
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Hashrate based on shares submitted in the past 5 minutes.

Also, 0.008BTC/MH? WTF?  Grin

Edit: Oh, now it's 0.010BTC/MH, okay.

i cant believe it either , but as of now nicehash is the best paying pool anywhere

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April 14, 2014, 07:39:47 PM
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@kenshirothefist I don't think that's the issue.. it was definitely running for 30+ minutes.

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April 14, 2014, 08:25:15 PM
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@kenshirothefist I don't think that's the issue.. it was definitely running for 30+ minutes.

It's still possible that some order intercalated between your order (small higher paying order) .. What pool were you mining at, do you know what is pools's highest share diff?
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April 14, 2014, 08:35:24 PM
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It is my pool - ipoMiner.com. I'm currently the top bidder on NiceHash and have been for a while now, again, and am seeing 0.19GH/s on NiceHash - only 23MH on the pool from it though. I can set the share diff as high as 1024, if that matters, but I don't think it should matter.

I just cancelled my current order and withdrew my coins - this has been a ripoff.

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April 14, 2014, 08:47:14 PM
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It is my pool - ipoMiner.com. I'm currently the top bidder on NiceHash and have been for a while now, again, and am seeing 0.19GH/s on NiceHash - only 23MH on the pool-side for that worker though. I can set the share diff as high as 1024, if that matters, but I don't know why it would.

Well, we'll take a closer look at this, I'll pass this to the dev team and get back to you via PM or email as soon as we'll find out why the numbers doesn't match. Thanks for your patience!
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