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June 12, 2014, 06:16:22 PM |
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The same reason.
Why do people believe in climate change?
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June 12, 2014, 06:25:50 PM |
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Yeah, why do people do that? I mean, come on, it's a fact for christ sake!
Fact? I'm not sure. I support clean energy production and renewables. But I am pretty nihilistic about our "knowledge" of broad climate cycles. I think the study of climate change has been largely politically charged and unscientific -- and the fact is, our primitive science really cannot give us the answers you think they can.
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June 12, 2014, 06:35:09 PM |
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Yeah, why do people do that? I mean, come on, it's a fact for christ sake!
Fact? I'm not sure. I support clean energy production and renewables. But I am pretty nihilistic about our "knowledge" of broad climate cycles. I think the study of climate change has been largely politically charged and unscientific -- and the fact is, our primitive science really cannot give us the answers you think they can. Adding to that the downright space phobia some people have means that we can't simply go out and confirm our data by studying other planets, I think I'm more pissed off that the climate change debate has become that politically oriented that no real science can get done, lobbyists ruin everything in democracies, I'd accept just about any theory out there if there were evidence to back it up but unfortunately a lot of climate 'science' revolves around hysterical bullshit and then maybe one mildly convincing chart.
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June 12, 2014, 07:54:14 PM |
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Because it might be the natural cycle of the planet and not some big marketing schemes to sell so called green items.
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June 12, 2014, 08:04:43 PM |
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Because it might be the natural cycle of the planet and not some big marketing schemes to sell so called green items.
To play devil's advocate -- that's precisely the point I was trying to make earlier. It might be. So, too, we can't be sure that so-called climate change is not really happening.
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June 13, 2014, 03:13:44 AM |
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oil industry has injected millions of dollars into convincing people of it. money still buys influence. most of the cilmate change deniers are republicans, and it's not by coincidence.
The OPEC lobby has injected billions of USD in to the anti-bio Diesel lobbying. And I have found that most of those people who are on their payrolls are Democrats, although some are from the GOP such as Jim Inhofe.
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June 13, 2014, 03:30:14 AM |
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oil industry has injected millions of dollars into convincing people of it. money still buys influence. most of the cilmate change deniers are republicans, and it's not by coincidence.
The OPEC lobby has injected billions of USD in to the anti-bio Diesel lobbying. And I have found that most of those people who are on their payrolls are Democrats, although some are from the GOP such as Jim Inhofe. http://home.comcast.net/~russ676/desiremore/biofuelmyths1.htm#bookmark15) Shills for Big Oil have infiltrated Internet comment fields
I have seen no evidence of this. On the other hand I am constantly running into Big Biofuel vested interests in comment fields.
Looks like he was spot on
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June 13, 2014, 03:39:12 AM |
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I think it's because they prefer not doing anything about it than helping the environment and working hard. I think it's pathetic. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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June 13, 2014, 08:53:02 PM |
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Yeah, why do people do that? I mean, come on, it's a fact for christ sake!
Fact? I'm not sure. I support clean energy production and renewables. But I am pretty nihilistic about our "knowledge" of broad climate cycles. I think the study of climate change has been largely politically charged and unscientific -- and the fact is, our primitive science really cannot give us the answers you think they can. Adding to that the downright space phobia some people have means that we can't simply go out and confirm our data by studying other planets, I think I'm more pissed off that the climate change debate has become that politically oriented that no real science can get done, lobbyists ruin everything in democracies, I'd accept just about any theory out there if there were evidence to back it up but unfortunately a lot of climate 'science' revolves around hysterical bullshit and then maybe one mildly convincing chart. What do you mean space phobia? Who's against studying other planets? Is this some sort of movement in America(I'm assuming here...)?
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June 13, 2014, 09:13:07 PM |
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Interestingly it isn't just America responsible for this kind of ignorance for once but there are people out there who would genuinely have you believe that there is nothing of value out in space and so on with absolutely no evidence to back it up.
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June 13, 2014, 09:39:53 PM |
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Answer to this topic is as same as: "Why ppl mine at Ghas even tho they know they could fuck up whole network". In short: "People are greedy morons".
They do not care about thir own children, they do not care about anyone else, anywhere else....just themselves.
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June 14, 2014, 04:56:19 AM |
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Might want to check this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cejournal.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F01%2Fglobal-average-temp-running-means.jpg&t=665&c=smZ2pMbz610Ubg)
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June 14, 2014, 07:16:03 PM |
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Because it might be the natural cycle of the planet and not some big marketing schemes to sell so called green items.
This, it's not to deny climate change, it's to deny it's caused by humans, industrial activity. I've seen some good reasons why it may not be our fault but just Earth doing what it does. Anyway, it's better to prevent than let it happen and even if it's not our fault it's still a problem because eventually the climate will change. We need to adapt to relatively small changes in temperature first to buy us more time to be able to control the climate.
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June 15, 2014, 02:54:18 PM |
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This, it's not to deny climate change, it's to deny it's caused by humans, industrial activity. I've seen some good reasons why it may not be our fault but just Earth doing what it does.
Do you want to deny these facts? 1. The Carbon-di-Oxide levels in the atmosphere has risen by more than 50% during the last 50 years. 2. Gases like Carbon-di-Oxide and Methane causes the green house effect, which rises the surface temperature of the earth. 3. Every year, some 31 billion tonnes of Carbon-di-Oxide is released in to the atmosphere, as a result of the human activity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions
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June 26, 2014, 02:06:49 PM |
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This, it's not to deny climate change, it's to deny it's caused by humans, industrial activity. I've seen some good reasons why it may not be our fault but just Earth doing what it does.
Do you want to deny these facts? 1. The Carbon-di-Oxide levels in the atmosphere has risen by more than 50% during the last 50 years. 2. Gases like Carbon-di-Oxide and Methane causes the green house effect, which rises the surface temperature of the earth. 3. Every year, some 31 billion tonnes of Carbon-di-Oxide is released in to the atmosphere, as a result of the human activity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissionsEven if this is true, how do you propose solving this climate issue? Kill 90% of the human population?
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June 26, 2014, 05:49:01 PM |
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Do you want to deny these facts? 1. The Carbon-di-Oxide levels in the atmosphere has risen by more than 50% during the last 50 years. 2. Gases like Carbon-di-Oxide and Methane causes the green house effect, which rises the surface temperature of the earth. 3. Every year, some 31 billion tonnes of Carbon-di-Oxide is released in to the atmosphere, as a result of the human activity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions1. It's been higher then that in the past (a long time ago) 2. There are other scientists that believe it's the other way around (Carbon-di-Oxide and Methane are the side effects not the cause) 3. Animals and especially the sea produce a lot more
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June 26, 2014, 06:01:03 PM |
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This, it's not to deny climate change, it's to deny it's caused by humans, industrial activity. I've seen some good reasons why it may not be our fault but just Earth doing what it does.
Do you want to deny these facts? 1. The Carbon-di-Oxide levels in the atmosphere has risen by more than 50% during the last 50 years. 2. Gases like Carbon-di-Oxide and Methane causes the green house effect, which rises the surface temperature of the earth. 3. Every year, some 31 billion tonnes of Carbon-di-Oxide is released in to the atmosphere, as a result of the human activity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissionsEven if this is true, how do you propose solving this climate issue? Kill 90% of the human population? Not enough. That is still close to a billion humans. I think we need to get rid of about 99%+. Of course, I'm not volunteering. This also would not stop the warming for a long time, however. And once we cross the line that releases permafrost methane or carbon out-gassing in the ocean, then there is nothing we can do.
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June 26, 2014, 06:41:04 PM |
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Why do people believe in the bible? It's a fact proven by physics biology and astronomy that the bible is a fairy tale yet most of the world believes it. Same thing about climate change.
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June 26, 2014, 07:07:20 PM |
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Because it might be the natural cycle of the planet and not some big marketing schemes to sell so called green items.
Except that the natural cycle of the planet is well known and that the current changes are happening much faster. Global temperatures are increasing when, according to Milankovitch's cycle, the temperature should actually be getting colder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles
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