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April 12, 2014, 02:43:50 AM |
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What would be the MINIMUM amount of Hashes per second would be necessary to make "mining" worth it?
Worth it is actually getting coins in a reasonably short amount of time.
What is the cost to get that many Hashes?
If someone is not willing or able to invest in FULL TIME mining? should they bother?
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April 12, 2014, 02:45:55 AM |
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if it isn't profitable, people wouldn't be mining
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April 12, 2014, 02:54:00 AM |
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Dont bother. Too late for most ppl now, sorry.
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April 12, 2014, 02:58:22 AM |
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High difficulty Low price. You know.
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April 12, 2014, 03:37:29 AM |
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if it isn't profitable, people wouldn't be mining
If you enjoy computers and take it as a hobby then start mining. If you have quite a bit of cash and can start a big rig from the start then do it you'll make profit longer you wait less you'll make.
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April 12, 2014, 03:51:25 AM |
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No. It's just money and a bunch of computer crap.
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indeed
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April 12, 2014, 04:07:35 AM |
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The OP's post really baffles me. Is it worth it now? That a question implying it's only worth it if the value TODAY can be exchanged for more USD than the initial investment. Are we that short sighted?
A little scenario - lets say it dips to $200 tomorrow and you've invested 10s of thousands of dollars into mining hardware so you decide it isn't worth it because the electricity is actually costing you more than you're getting in return... so you pour gasoline and light a match on all your gear. Two months later, had you continued to mine you may have mined 50 additional bitcoins continually spending more money on electricity. Then the price spikes to $1500... was it worth it?
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April 12, 2014, 04:29:54 AM |
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The OP's post really baffles me. Is it worth it now? That a question implying it's only worth it if the value TODAY can be exchanged for more USD than the initial investment. Are we that short sighted?
A little scenario - lets say it dips to $200 tomorrow and you've invested 10s of thousands of dollars into mining hardware so you decide it isn't worth it because the electricity is actually costing you more than you're getting in return... so you pour gasoline and light a match on all your gear. Two months later, had you continued to mine you may have mined 50 additional bitcoins continually spending more money on electricity. Then the price spikes to $1500... was it worth it?
indeed it was worth it(to keep mining).
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April 12, 2014, 04:30:13 AM |
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if it isn't profitable, people wouldn't be mining
Not necessarily, people whose preorders came late are probably losing money, but they are mining to reduce their losses. It doesn't actually mean they are making profit off of it. @OP: It would probably be more effective for you to invest a % of your wealth into BTC and then watch where that goes rather than trying to run a large scale mining operation as all in all you won't make much for the effort and time - probably better to just work a day job.
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April 12, 2014, 05:50:14 AM |
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if it isn't profitable, people wouldn't be mining
If you enjoy computers and take it as a hobby then start mining.If you have quite a bit of cash and can start a big rig from the start then do it you'll make profit longer you wait less you'll make. This is the statement you need to listen to. Too may people get caught up in the investment aspect of mining. Dude... I just love mining and being a part of this game changer called bitcoin. If I make a little money in the process... GREAT!!! As long as I break even or get close to it I'm happy as a clam. I don't even look at the exchange rate any more cause I don't care... I made an initial investment in btc and I've been riding that for a while now, upgrading my hardware and currently enjoying the hum of my S1s as they mine away. With any luck I'll turn those S1s into a S2 sometime in the near future.
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April 12, 2014, 05:56:34 AM |
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If u can get a 1ths miner for under $2k , u can make lots of profit
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please unban me.
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April 12, 2014, 06:02:07 AM |
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If u can get a 1ths miner for under $2k , u can make lots of profit
My plan is mine the S1s for another month or so... sell them on ebay... convert to btc... buy the S2 at what I can only imagine will be a much lower price then it is today. It's like a game to me to stay above water ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 12, 2014, 06:07:08 AM |
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spend 2k to earn $5 or $6 a day or so? and the amount earned drops every few days? plus time and effort...
no, it's not worth it, but people like doing it
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April 12, 2014, 06:08:24 AM |
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If you start mining now , you are too late.
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April 12, 2014, 06:44:41 AM |
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What would be the MINIMUM amount of Hashes per second would be necessary to make "mining" worth it?
Worth it is actually getting coins in a reasonably short amount of time.
What is the cost to get that many Hashes?
If someone is not willing or able to invest in FULL TIME mining? should they bother?
There is no "MINIMUM" amount of Hashes/s, it greatly depending on your investmentcosts in hardware and your runing costs (mostly electricity). Not sure what you think is a reasonable amount and what you consider a short amount of time either. 1 Bitcoin in a week? Is that reasonable? 1 in a month? Do you want to make this your fulltime job? Do you want to pay your flat or buy a house with the profits? Do you have a wife and 5 kids maybe? What do I know what you consider reasonable... If you want to invest in mining for a profit, search up some caluclators and consider the difiiculty! Consider a high difficulty raise and the time till you get your hardware.
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April 12, 2014, 06:59:30 AM |
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The OP's post really baffles me. Is it worth it now? That a question implying it's only worth it if the value TODAY can be exchanged for more USD than the initial investment. Are we that short sighted?
A little scenario - lets say it dips to $200 tomorrow and you've invested 10s of thousands of dollars into mining hardware so you decide it isn't worth it because the electricity is actually costing you more than you're getting in return... so you pour gasoline and light a match on all your gear. Two months later, had you continued to mine you may have mined 50 additional bitcoins continually spending more money on electricity. Then the price spikes to $1500... was it worth it?
And those short term spikes are not the only thing. Long term so far the BTC price was constantly climbing. Thus what makes a decent amount of coins is constantly changing and is different for everyone.
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April 13, 2014, 12:09:15 AM |
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Thanks to everyone who gave a helpful response.
I have zero intention of doing it as a hobby or for fun. If I invest money, it is to MAKE money. I would want it first off to break even. If it takes a year to break even, then it is not worth it, as there are many other things I can do to make money and get a return faster.
Worth it = making more than I have invested.
Short amout of time...weeks? months? NOT years.
Are BTC still awarded every 10 mins?
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April 13, 2014, 01:10:52 AM |
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Thanks to everyone who gave a helpful response.
I have zero intention of doing it as a hobby or for fun. If I invest money, it is to MAKE money. I would want it first off to break even. If it takes a year to break even, then it is not worth it, as there are many other things I can do to make money and get a return faster.
Worth it = making more than I have invested.
Short amout of time...weeks? months? NOT years.
Are BTC still awarded every 10 mins?
BTC are created roughly every 10 minutes. The difficulty factor is set such that the time taken to solve a block approximates 10 minutes but it can vary quite significantly. My advice - find something else to invest in as you either a) won't make money b) barely break even. The costs associated with waiting for your orders and electricity mean it's not exactly profitable.
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April 13, 2014, 03:13:00 AM |
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I don't understand the logic behind mining. Looking at the current difficulty, most of the mining rigs will never recover even their capital cost (I am not even talking about other expenses, such as electricity). Right now, Bitcoin is trading at $420-425 levels. Why waste so much money and electricity on mining, when we can get the coins extremely cheap from the exchange?
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April 13, 2014, 03:47:39 AM |
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Why waste so much money and electricity on mining, when we can get the coins extremely cheap from the exchange?
Because people somehow have this weird notion that mining them is better than buying them and it'll make them more money. I guess their just infatuated with the fact that it's akin to 'printing money' and they want in when in fact the printing machines are more costly than the money they can produce.
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