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April 12, 2014, 10:19:30 PM
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Has anybody received or knows of anyone who has received a Baby Jet Batch 4 that had a delivery date of March 31, 2014?
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April 12, 2014, 10:29:27 PM
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Has anybody received or knows of anyone who has received a Baby Jet Batch 4 that had a delivery date of March 31, 2014?
I must say I never heard of those,  what is it?  Jet Batch 4?
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April 12, 2014, 10:56:19 PM
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Thanks for the link.  Now I get it and now I know what it is.
I cannot help with your questions.  Perhaps someone will help you better.

Good luck.  Regards.
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April 12, 2014, 11:46:03 PM
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Not only has no one received one but no one will likely ever receive one . they pushed the date of delivery up to June . this will be pushed up and up . I asked for a refund ., They gave me a link to a website that deals in paperwork and signatures . they wanted me to sign and send a release form releasing ScamFast from any and all present or future  known or unknown lawsuits for any reason . they claim they would then give a refund . I told them to F*ck off . No more word from them . I have demanded a refund several times . Only refund I have heard of was for batch 1 and that took 3 months . F*ckFast is now insolvent from what I hear . They can not deliver anything or refunds . Their bitcoin wallets have been seized by a court order due to a law suit for not delivering batch 2 .
you can email them and ask for the upgrade offer in place of your babyjet . Look in their faq . it is a board and power supply and cooler . No case and you need to mount it on something and use a controller of your own . Of course this will not be delivered either because even though they claim it is built in a separate facility and they can build them faster , they do not have any .

We need to ban together and sue under class action . It is the only way a small buyer can recover money in law suit as you get many people in on one suit for one money to the lawyer .
 I plan on contacting an attorney in Ca Monday to hire for a law suit . I do not care if it costs me more than ShitFast owes me . The bad publicity will harm them good enough .

 In the mean time HashFast  here is a word for you . I will continue to post in every forum I can find about the fraud you have dealt on me until such time as a judge forces you to pay me what you owe me or you just do the right thing and pay up . If the latter happens I will then recant all of my postings and give you credit for making it right but not if I have to win in court .

Sad thing is that I would much rather have the now useless babyjet instead of a refund just so I can play around with it but I do not see that happening either .
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April 13, 2014, 02:46:45 AM
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Not only has no one received one but no one will likely ever receive one . they pushed the date of delivery up to June . this will be pushed up and up . I asked for a refund ., They gave me a link to a website that deals in paperwork and signatures . they wanted me to sign and send a release form releasing ScamFast from any and all present or future  known or unknown lawsuits for any reason . they claim they would then give a refund . I told them to F*ck off . No more word from them . I have demanded a refund several times . Only refund I have heard of was for batch 1 and that took 3 months . F*ckFast is now insolvent from what I hear . They can not deliver anything or refunds . Their bitcoin wallets have been seized by a court order due to a law suit for not delivering batch 2 .
you can email them and ask for the upgrade offer in place of your babyjet . Look in their faq . it is a board and power supply and cooler . No case and you need to mount it on something and use a controller of your own . Of course this will not be delivered either because even though they claim it is built in a separate facility and they can build them faster , they do not have any .

We need to ban together and sue under class action . It is the only way a small buyer can recover money in law suit as you get many people in on one suit for one money to the lawyer .
 I plan on contacting an attorney in Ca Monday to hire for a law suit . I do not care if it costs me more than ShitFast owes me . The bad publicity will harm them good enough .

 In the mean time HashFast  here is a word for you . I will continue to post in every forum I can find about the fraud you have dealt on me until such time as a judge forces you to pay me what you owe me or you just do the right thing and pay up . If the latter happens I will then recant all of my postings and give you credit for making it right but not if I have to win in court .

Sad thing is that I would much rather have the now useless babyjet instead of a refund just so I can play around with it but I do not see that happening either .

I'm pretty sure if you sign that settlement agreement, and they don't pay you the refund, it is unenforceable and the settlement agreement to not sue is invalid.  I'm not any attorney, and since your contacting one anyone, check with them and sign the agreement if you still can or are advised to do so.
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April 13, 2014, 10:03:37 AM
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It's not like a lot of people didn't warn you guys it was an obvious scam from the begining.
No one to blame but yourselves.
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April 13, 2014, 10:06:26 AM
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see all of the above. you will never see your babyjet. sorry for your loss.

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April 15, 2014, 12:53:52 AM
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judging from the lack of complaints on any forums that I can find lately most people must have taken the refund option and signed the refund release form that states that you can never post anything negative about scamfast or divulge the contents refund agreement . Morons . they gave up their rights to free speech and the right to take legal action for this and any other problem that may arise in the future and agreed to pay all of court costs and lawyer fees for scamfucks even if they sue the buyers.  This is extortion . ( sign this and give up your rights or we will not refund your money we lawfully owe you ) Same thing as ( hey give us 3 K or we will burn down your house ) No difference .   
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April 15, 2014, 05:53:02 AM
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judging from the lack of complaints on any forums that I can find lately most people must have taken the refund option and signed the refund release form that states that you can never post anything negative about scamfast or divulge the contents refund agreement . Morons . they gave up their rights to free speech and the right to take legal action for this and any other problem that may arise in the future and agreed to pay all of court costs and lawyer fees for scamfucks even if they sue the buyers.  This is extortion . ( sign this and give up your rights or we will not refund your money we lawfully owe you ) Same thing as ( hey give us 3 K or we will burn down your house ) No difference .   

not me, i'm batch 4, still with an order number active. not a happy bunny.
on a lighter note, i will be hashing 1.4TH/s this week, ordered a spondoolies-tech dawson sp10 - ships out tomorrow.

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April 15, 2014, 11:40:54 PM
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judging from the lack of complaints on any forums that I can find lately most people must have taken the refund option and signed the refund release form that states that you can never post anything negative about scamfast or divulge the contents refund agreement . Morons . they gave up their rights to free speech and the right to take legal action for this and any other problem that may arise in the future and agreed to pay all of court costs and lawyer fees for scamfucks even if they sue the buyers.  This is extortion . ( sign this and give up your rights or we will not refund your money we lawfully owe you ) Same thing as ( hey give us 3 K or we will burn down your house ) No difference .   

not me, i'm batch 4, still with an order number active. not a happy bunny.
on a lighter note, i will be hashing 1.4TH/s this week, ordered a spondoolies-tech dawson sp10 - ships out tomorrow.
Glad to hear you are getting something going despite FuckFast and their fraud . I almost asked for the upgrade but knew it would never be delivered by June and quite possibly not at all . I seriously doubt that they will be in business for much longer . They have obviously squandered away all their money they took from buyers and /or filed their personal bank accounts and being an LLC will simply file bankruptcy and only have to give up their business assets to auction . .
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April 16, 2014, 06:21:18 AM
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I seriously doubt that they will be in business for much longer . They have obviously squandered away all their money they took from buyers and /or filed their personal bank accounts and being an LLC will simply file bankruptcy and only have to give up their business assets to auction . .

yep. sad state of affairs. my babyjet has been written off my accounts as a loss. this does in no way admonish hashfast from their total incompetence, and if I ever see a babyjet, it'll likely only be powered on in winters, to keep my office warm.

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April 20, 2014, 04:42:30 PM
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I can tell you that getting any cash back from HashFast is going to take a law suit . The San Francisco District Attorney consumer fraud office basically says that they could care less if any company in Ca defrauds you it is perfectly fine and they will do nothing about it with the exception of 4 types of businesses . that being electronic repair , home repair , dry cleaners and some other type . WTF ? Anyone else skirts the law . The Attorney General says they will investigate and send them a letter requesting they take care of the problem but other than that they can only sue for Ca residents in general if they find HashFast is screwing the general public but will use any complaints as evidence if they do to bring HashFast to justice.
 So suing is the way to deal with them . How ever dumbasses that signed the refund extortion paper will not have that option . Suing in small claims is a waste so regular court is it . sue for travel expenses to and from Ca , loss of wages while dealing with it , rental car , hotel , loss of expected income from time you could have been mining with their equipment if they had sent it or some one else's if you still had your money and could buy it plus attorney fees and court costs . Could end up costing HashFast a bundle when they could just refund 2600 or a product .
 They choose to even ignore all attempts to communicate with them to resolve the problem which lets me know they are insolvent and can not meet their obligations .
  If the FTC does not resolve the problem then I will be hiring my families attorney in San Diego to sue them . The FTC has tried contacting me but I am hard to get a hold of sometimes . Hopefully I can get them on the phone this week to further my complaint I filed .
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April 22, 2014, 06:05:20 PM
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So why doesn't someone throw a wild card into the ring and accuse them of Money Laundering? Believe me, that WILL get the attention of the state and federal authorities. Just a thought.
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April 23, 2014, 01:45:54 AM
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I just received a nice email from HashFast concerning my complaint. They assured me they are on the ball and trying to take care of this problem . They said people are getting refunds and that it is taking a while but it will happen . I did ask them to think about getting rid of that silly refund form to sign as that makes a person a little paranoid about things .
 they told me they would give complete instructions for setting up the yoli evo boards if I took the upgrade offer . Which was a worry for me since I know nothing about this type of hardware .
 Things are looking up with this response from them . I will be giving them some time to resolve the issue .
 I certainly hope they are moving along in  business as I think they have very talented people on the job and I would like to be checking out their stuff in the future as I think some asic instead of gpu equipment would be a great thing from them for mining them other types of coins which I own some of and would like to mine more but not with a gpu.  Also their prices just can not be beat .
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April 23, 2014, 01:50:14 AM
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I just received a nice email from HashFast concerning my complaint. They assured me they are on the ball and trying to take care of this problem . They said people are getting refunds and that it is taking a while but it will happen . I did ask them to think about getting rid of that silly refund form to sign as that makes a person a little paranoid about things .
 they told me they would give complete instructions for setting up the yoli evo boards if I took the upgrade offer . Which was a worry for me since I know nothing about this type of hardware .
 Things are looking up with this response from them . I will be giving them some time to resolve the issue .
 I certainly hope they are moving along in  business as I think they have very talented people on the job and I would like to be checking out their stuff in the future as I think some asic instead of gpu equipment would be a great thing from them for mining them other types of coins which I own some of and would like to mine more but not with a gpu.  Also their prices just can not be beat .

They directly lied to me repeatedly.

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April 23, 2014, 01:57:27 AM
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So why doesn't someone throw a wild card into the ring and accuse them of Money Laundering? Believe me, that WILL get the attention of the state and federal authorities. Just a thought.
well as far as that goes I would not think making stuff up is a good way to go about things . Unless one has proof of such a thing it is not very decent to make accusations of that type . I believe in Karma . What you put out is going to come back and see you again . I have no problem complaining about things but like to keep it fair even though the good guy does finish last a lot of the time . Let us not accuse of money laundering when we all know what we intend to do with bitcoins . Unless everyone is just that honest type that will tell the feds they mined some coin and want to pay taxes o it . HA! Oh wait that is exactly what i planned on doing . that is what I meant to say.
 They seem to have got in over their head a bit . Perhaps just got over zealous about producing really cool stuff and hit a bad spot in production and found they were strapped for cash after that .  Maybe this will pass and things will work out .
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April 23, 2014, 02:01:12 AM
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They directly lied to me repeatedly.
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yes I got copies of emails that note this behavior . I am just trying to be positive and give them the benefit of doubt . Perhaps it will all be good in the end . maybe not but we will just have to see how it plays out .
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April 23, 2014, 06:05:31 AM
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So why doesn't someone throw a wild card into the ring and accuse them of Money Laundering? Believe me, that WILL get the attention of the state and federal authorities. Just a thought.
well as far as that goes I would not think making stuff up is a good way to go about things . Unless one has proof of such a thing it is not very decent to make accusations of that type . I believe in Karma . What you put out is going to come back and see you again . I have no problem complaining about things but like to keep it fair even though the good guy does finish last a lot of the time . Let us not accuse of money laundering when we all know what we intend to do with bitcoins . Unless everyone is just that honest type that will tell the feds they mined some coin and want to pay taxes o it . HA! Oh wait that is exactly what i planned on doing . that is what I meant to say.
 They seem to have got in over their head a bit . Perhaps just got over zealous about producing really cool stuff and hit a bad spot in production and found they were strapped for cash after that .  Maybe this will pass and things will work out .

Who's making it up? They've taken your money and won't give you it back. They've lied to you, despite having made millions in sales of products that don't exist. Where's the money gone?
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So why doesn't someone throw a wild card into the ring and accuse them of Money Laundering? Believe me, that WILL get the attention of the state and federal authorities. Just a thought.
well as far as that goes I would not think making stuff up is a good way to go about things . Unless one has proof of such a thing it is not very decent to make accusations of that type . I believe in Karma . What you put out is going to come back and see you again . I have no problem complaining about things but like to keep it fair even though the good guy does finish last a lot of the time . Let us not accuse of money laundering when we all know what we intend to do with bitcoins . Unless everyone is just that honest type that will tell the feds they mined some coin and want to pay taxes o it . HA! Oh wait that is exactly what i planned on doing . that is what I meant to say.
 They seem to have got in over their head a bit . Perhaps just got over zealous about producing really cool stuff and hit a bad spot in production and found they were strapped for cash after that .  Maybe this will pass and things will work out .

Who's making it up? They've taken your money and won't give you it back. They've lied to you, despite having made millions in sales of products that don't exist. Where's the money gone?
That is true . how ever I think that is not money laundering , maybe I am wrong  . It is certainly wrong and could be fraud . I think if they do not straighten up the mess they have made fairly quickly they may have a big legal problem with the feds over their business practices . They seem to have from what i can tell any way , gotten caught up in the making of cool stuff and tried to pull off running a expensive business on our dime and things went wrong . this is I am sure quite an illegal thing to do . They are required to take measures to ensure that our money is safe and I would think they would be required to keep enough cash on hand or at ready to pay customers back if needed. They most likely spent our money trying to fix things as they went wrong and of course digging a deeper hole in the process.
 I am hoping they take care of things and recover . I would like to see them manufacture some asic scrypt rigs as I want to mine some but not with gpu.
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April 24, 2014, 05:09:18 PM
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I'm pretty sure if you sign that settlement agreement, and they don't pay you the refund, it is unenforceable and the settlement agreement to not sue is invalid.  I'm not any attorney, and since your contacting one anyone, check with them and sign the agreement if you still can or are advised to do so.

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